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Post by Bruinsfan on Apr 19, 2024 11:46:44 GMT -6
So Arizona keeps the Coyotes history. I assume they keep the Jets 1.0 history too. All the articles I see make it seem like they are going to do a half @ss renovation to the current arena instead of a new arena. you know i wonder about those quotes....If they are aiming for the olympics they may be waiting to fully commit to a new arena but with two teams in an aging arena and prior talk for a brand new building. This seems conflicting
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 19, 2024 11:48:40 GMT -6
SLC is beautiful, what isn't, is the I-15. Probably 100 miles of the 404 (Toronto) in rush hours. The skiing in and around Park City is world class. Anything highway wise in the Toronto area during rush hours is horrible, lived out there for 10 years, so glad to be back in Winnipeg/Manitoba. Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 19, 2024 11:49:31 GMT -6
So Arizona keeps the Coyotes history. I assume they keep the Jets 1.0 history too. All the articles I see make it seem like they are going to do a half @ss renovation to the current arena instead of a new arena. you know i wonder about those quotes....If they are aiming for the olympics they may be waiting to fully commit to a new arena but with two teams in an aging arena and prior talk for a brand new building. This seems conflicting Letโs see what happens, time will tell.
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 19, 2024 13:52:04 GMT -6
So Arizona keeps the Coyotes history. I assume they keep the Jets 1.0 history too. All the articles I see make it seem like they are going to do a half @ss renovation to the current arena instead of a new arena. you know i wonder about those quotes....If they are aiming for the olympics they may be waiting to fully commit to a new arena but with two teams in an aging arena and prior talk for a brand new building. This seems conflicting They must be building a new arena. The only way to make the current one non horseshoe is to tear half of it down and rebuild it. Why bother when the building is already 33 years old. It's just weird they keep saying renovation.
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 19, 2024 13:54:31 GMT -6
i wouldnt rule out Jets 1.0 history not going back to Winnipeg. Lets see what this "owner" actually is able to pull off They should give Winnipeg the history back. It would be a good feel type thing and the Jets could use a boost at this point. The Jets finished next to last in attendance only ahead of a team that was playing in a 4,600 seat arena and moved despite finishing with a good enough record to have home ice in round 1.
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 19, 2024 18:21:55 GMT -6
you know i wonder about those quotes....If they are aiming for the olympics they may be waiting to fully commit to a new arena but with two teams in an aging arena and prior talk for a brand new building. This seems conflicting They must be building a new arena. The only way to make the current one non horseshoe is to tear half of it down and rebuild it. Why bother when the building is already 33 years old. It's just weird they keep saying renovation. It possibly might be temporary until the new arena is built, I thought that I read somewhere that they were going to build a new arena. Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 19, 2024 18:29:30 GMT -6
i wouldnt rule out Jets 1.0 history not going back to Winnipeg. Letโs see what this "owner" actually is able to pull off They should give Winnipeg the history back. It would be a good feel type thing and the Jets could use a boost at this point. The Jets finished next to last in attendance only ahead of a team that was playing in a 4,600 seat arena and moved despite finishing with a good enough record to have home ice in round 1. Our full Capacity is 15,350ish, smallest NHL arena in the NHL/canโt count Arizona, itโs not an NHL arena, anyway, hence us being so low ranking wise for attendance, even when we sold out every game, our attendance ranked as one of the lowest in the NHL because of the size of our arena/capacity wise. I hope that you understand what Iโm trying to say. Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 19, 2024 18:35:32 GMT -6
i wouldnt rule out Jets 1.0 history not going back to Winnipeg. Lets see what this "owner" actually is able to pull off They should give Winnipeg the history back. It would be a good feel type thing and the Jets could use a boost at this point. The Jets finished next to last in attendance only ahead of a team that was playing in a 4,600 seat arena and moved despite finishing with a good enough record to have home ice in round 1. Yes. The Jets history is the Jets history, it all belongs to the Winnipeg Jets, doesnโt matter if itโs the WHA from 1972-1979, Jets Version 1.0, 1979-1996 or so, Jets Version 2.0 from when we got the team from Atlanta to the present going forward. Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 19, 2024 18:38:16 GMT -6
i wouldnt rule out Jets 1.0 history not going back to Winnipeg. Lets see what this "owner" actually is able to pull off They should give Winnipeg the history back. It would be a good feel type thing and the Jets could use a boost at this point. The Jets finished next to last in attendance only ahead of a team that was playing in a 4,600 seat arena and moved despite finishing with a good enough record to have home ice in round 1. Mike, your comment here is a bit off, it doesnโt make full sense. 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by Bruinsfan on Apr 19, 2024 20:32:58 GMT -6
you know i wonder about those quotes....If they are aiming for the olympics they may be waiting to fully commit to a new arena but with two teams in an aging arena and prior talk for a brand new building. This seems conflicting They must be building a new arena. The only way to make the current one non horseshoe is to tear half of it down and rebuild it. Why bother when the building is already 33 years old. It's just weird they keep saying renovation. unless they plan on doing a TD garden. Which is essentially a giant concrete rectangle built on top of the train station. The bruins have gutted it multiple times and keep upgrading it.
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 19, 2024 21:24:30 GMT -6
They must be building a new arena. The only way to make the current one non horseshoe is to tear half of it down and rebuild it. Why bother when the building is already 33 years old. It's just weird they keep saying renovation. unless they plan on doing a TD garden. Which is essentially a giant concrete rectangle built on top of the train station. The bruins have gutted it multiple times and keep upgrading it. Thatโs unfortunately not possible to do for the current SLC arena, they will have to start from scratch, build a new arena, play in the current temporary arena until a new one is built/completed. BTW, what do I know, answer: nothing. Weโll see what SLC does going forward years to come when it comes to a real NHL arena. Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 19, 2024 22:09:48 GMT -6
Sure the Winnipeg arena is only 15,000 plus and the Jets would be near the bottom of attendance anyway. But the problem has been the Jets have had trouble selling it out post pandemic. The whole idea of only a 15,000 seat arena was it would always sell out and the high ticket prices would make up for the low capacity.
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Post by Ric O. on Apr 19, 2024 22:33:33 GMT -6
Sure the Winnipeg arena is only 15,000 plus and the Jets would be near the bottom of attendance anyway. But the problem has been the Jets have had trouble selling it out post pandemic. The whole idea of only a 15,000 seat arena was it would always sell out and the high ticket prices would make up for ttohe low capacity. IMO, the only real effect of pandemic on the attendance is that it made it easy for people who were already teetering on their season tix commitments for a variety of reasons.
I think ticket prices have little to do with the drop in attendance. It's all about customer service, fan experience and a lot of issues surrounding that...no scarcity of tix when you have a bunch of p-oh'd fans who say enough of not being valued by the organization...huge mistake by ownership in a market like Winnipeg.
Which you can infer, nothing to do with the quality of market; very solid NHL market. Fan interest in the Jets has never waned as far as I can tell...everybody still wants to talk Jets in this city. However, fans here must also acknowledge that at some point they will have to go back if we want to be sure the team will stay. Ownership has a major part to play in that and I still see half measures in addressing the issues that turned fans off in the first place...not one thing, it was one thing after another. They still have many fences to mend and it will take time to rebuild actual fan loyalty to TN.
That said, went through a string of years where the players didn't seem to value the fans at all, way too many subpar efforts. No such complaints about the product they put together for us this year, which is or you would think *should be* the overarching factor. Having a hard working team for the most part and good entertainment like we had this year, I can see fans have started to swallow their principles because the hockey has been damn good! Been selling out regularly last 1/4 of the season.
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 19, 2024 22:38:23 GMT -6
Sure the Winnipeg arena is only 15,000 plus and the Jets would be near the bottom of attendance anyway. But the problem has been the Jets have had trouble selling it out post pandemic. The whole idea of only a 15,000 seat arena was it would always sell out and the high ticket prices would make up for ttohe low capacity. IMO, the only real effect of pandemic on the attendance is that it made it easy for people who were already teetering on their season tix commitments for a variety of reasons.ย ย
I think ticket prices have little to do with the drop in attendance.ย It's all about customer service, fan experience and a lot of issues surrounding that...no scarcity of tix when you have a bunch of p-oh'd fans who say enough of not being valued by the organization...huge mistake by ownership in a market like Winnipeg.ย ย
Which you can infer, nothing to do with the quality of market; very solid NHL market.ย Fan interest in the Jets has never waned as far as I can tell...everybody still wants to talk Jets in this city.ย However, fans here must also acknowledge that at some point they will have to go back if we want to be sure the team will stay.ย Ownership has a major part to play in that and I still see half measures in addressing the issues that turned fans off in the first place...not one thing, it was one thing after another.ย They still have many fences to mend and it will take time to rebuild actual fan loyalty to TN.ย ย
That said, went through a string of years where the players didn't seem to value the fans at all, way too many subpar efforts.ย No such complaints about the product they put together for us this year, which is or you would think *should be* the overarching factor.ย Having a hard working team for the most part and good entertainment like we had this year, I can see fans have started to swallow their principles because the hockey has been damn good!ย Been selling out regularly last 1/4 of the season. ๐๐ BTW, Jets arenโt going anywhere, too much money invested by True North in downtown Winnipeg, without the Jets-True Northโs biggest tenant-it kills all of True Northโs investment in downtown Winnipeg which will amount to billions by the time it is said and done investing, True North including D. T. arenโt letting the Jets go anywhere soon nor in the near future including long term from now, itโs to both of them a lifetime investment in Winnipeg, Manitoba and the Winnipeg Jets. Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 23, 2024 5:14:45 GMT -6
Sure the Winnipeg arena is only 15,000 plus and the Jets would be near the bottom of attendance anyway. But the problem has been the Jets have had trouble selling it out post pandemic. The whole idea of only a 15,000 seat arena was it would always sell out and the high ticket prices would make up for ttohe low capacity. IMO, the only real effect of pandemic on the attendance is that it made it easy for people who were already teetering on their season tix commitments for a variety of reasons. I think ticket prices have little to do with the drop in attendance. It's all about customer service, fan experience and a lot of issues surrounding that...no scarcity of tix when you have a bunch of p-oh'd fans who say enough of not being valued by the organization...huge mistake by ownership in a market like Winnipeg. Which you can infer, nothing to do with the quality of market; very solid NHL market. Fan interest in the Jets has never waned as far as I can tell...everybody still wants to talk Jets in this city. However, fans here must also acknowledge that at some point they will have to go back if we want to be sure the team will stay. Ownership has a major part to play in that and I still see half measures in addressing the issues that turned fans off in the first place...not one thing, it was one thing after another. They still have many fences to mend and it will take time to rebuild actual fan loyalty to TN. That said, went through a string of years where the players didn't seem to value the fans at all, way too many subpar efforts. No such complaints about the product they put together for us this year, which is or you would think *should be* the overarching factor. Having a hard working team for the most part and good entertainment like we had this year, I can see fans have started to swallow their principles because the hockey has been damn good! Been selling out regularly last 1/4 of the season. Glad to hear the Jets have sold out at the end of the year. Another challenge for Winnipeg is corporate support. The Jets have a lot lower % of seats sold to corporations vs most other teams.
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