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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 9:23:59 GMT -6
With Seth Jones signing for 6 years at 32.4 (ave. 5.4 per year) this would likely be the Jets offer. If Jets don't match (assuming such an offer sheet is made) the Bruins 7 per than the Jets get 4 consecutive first round picks. I say Jets pass assuming this report is legit.
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Post by Grumpz on Jun 29, 2016 9:36:35 GMT -6
With Seth Jones signing 6 year at 32.4 this would be likely the Jets offer. If Jets don't match (assuming such an offer sheet is made) the Bruins 7 per than the Jets gets 4 consecutive first round picks. I say Jets pass assuming this report is legit. Just like TNSE, I have done my due diligence. The offer compensation for Trouba would be in the range of a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick. I don't even think he's worth the Jones deal. I'm full on bridge deal with him. He's got to show progress towards being a top 2 dman, not a bottom 3 or 4. Depending on where an offer comes from, I'd take it. Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice
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Post by beller79 on Jun 29, 2016 9:40:38 GMT -6
nah nah nah nah ... nah nah nah nah ... hey hey hey GOODBYE!
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Post by gobombersgo on Jun 29, 2016 9:52:32 GMT -6
That Jones deal is reasonable. I'd sign Trouba to that. 7 mil though I think you have to walk away although Chevy they will make any offer.
We will see.
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Post by JETStender on Jun 29, 2016 10:44:50 GMT -6
With Seth Jones signing for 6 years at 32.4 (ave. 5.4 per year) this would likely be the Jets offer. If Jets don't match (assuming such an offer sheet is made) the Bruins 7 per than the Jets get 4 consecutive first round picks. I say Jets pass assuming this report is legit. @ $7M AAV it's a first, second and third round picks.
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 10:56:41 GMT -6
With Seth Jones signing for 6 years at 32.4 (ave. 5.4 per year) this would likely be the Jets offer. If Jets don't match (assuming such an offer sheet is made) the Bruins 7 per than the Jets get 4 consecutive first round picks. I say Jets pass assuming this report is legit. @ $7M AAV it's a first, second and third round picks. Don't think so: The way it was stated today the actual cost in picks and the Average salary would be $9,131,645 and above so 4 first rounders. Don't ask me how this was arrived at. Otherwise it was 2 first round picks and a second and third round pick ($7,305,316 to $9,131,645) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheet
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Post by grumpy on Jun 29, 2016 11:00:34 GMT -6
The compensation has to be the offering teams own picks.... The Bruins do not have their own 2nd or 3rd for 2017 The 9.3 deal is doable for their next 4 firsts Maybe if you don't have your the draft picks you can stay with the 7M offer and just go up the compensation scale until you have what it takes.
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Post by phillymike on Jun 29, 2016 11:06:51 GMT -6
@ $7M AAV it's a first, second and third round picks. Don't think so: The way it was stated today the actual cost in picks and the Average salary would be $9,131,645 and above so 4 first rounders. Don't ask me how this was arrived at. Otherwise it was 2 first round picks and a second and third round pick ($7,305,316 to $9,131,645) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheetwikipediia is out dated on this, that figure is from 2011. As per 2015: AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE COMPENSATION Less than $1,205,377 Nothing $1,205,377-to-$1,826,328 Third-round pick $1,826,328-to-$3,652,659 Second-round pick $3,652,659-to-$5,478,986 First and third-round picks $5,478,986-to-$7,305,316 First, second and third-round picks $7,305,316-to-$9,131,645 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks $9,131,645 or greater Four first-round picks
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Post by TheDeuce on Jun 29, 2016 11:07:29 GMT -6
There's a lot of confusion over RFA offer sheet compensation going on here.
The way it works is:
RFA compensation is determined by the Average Annual Value of the offered contract calculated as follows:
(Total contract value) / (LESSER of 5 years OR term of offered contract)
In order for a team to issue an offer sheet that team must have the draft picks available to surrender as compensation AND the draft picks must be their own. They cannot use picks acquired by trade.
Since Boston doesn't have their own second round draft pick they would have to issue an offer sheet that only uses first round picks - i.e. their next four first round picks. This implies that the AAV of their offer sheet would have to be at least $9,388,080 per year up to five years. If they offered a seven year term they could go as low as $6.705 million per year, which is why the offer sheet rumour being tossed around is of the 7 year $7 million variety.
If Boston wants to offer Trouba $7 million per year for seven years then I'm good with getting FOUR first round draft picks in return. I don't think Boston's a team on the rise so those picks could be lottery picks.
2019: Stanley Cup Champion Winnipeg Jets will be selecting first overall in the 2019 NHL entry draft. Thanks Boston!
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 11:07:59 GMT -6
The compensation has to be the offering teams own picks.... The Bruins do not have their own 2nd or 3rd for 2017 The 9.3 deal is doable for their next 4 firsts Maybe if you don't have your the draft picks you can stay with the 7M offer and just go up the compensation scale until you have what it takes. Yeah that's right:" In addition, if a team does not have a pick in the next upcoming draft available for compensation, they may not make a contract offer in the certain range where that pick is needed for compensation." I think the idea here is to make the offer total over $9,131,645 to cover picks not available hence the 4 first rounders.
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 11:08:57 GMT -6
Don't think so: The way it was stated today the actual cost in picks and the Average salary would be $9,131,645 and above so 4 first rounders. Don't ask me how this was arrived at. Otherwise it was 2 first round picks and a second and third round pick ($7,305,316 to $9,131,645) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheetwikipediia is out dated on this, that figure is from 2011. As per 2015: AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE COMPENSATION Less than $1,205,377 Nothing $1,205,377-to-$1,826,328 Third-round pick $1,826,328-to-$3,652,659 Second-round pick $3,652,659-to-$5,478,986 First and third-round picks $5,478,986-to-$7,305,316 First, second and third-round picks $7,305,316-to-$9,131,645 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks $9,131,645 or greater Four first-round picks No that's exactly what I have. See above.
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 11:11:32 GMT -6
There's a lot of confusion over RFA offer sheet compensation going on here. The way it works is: RFA compensation is determined by the Average Annual Value of the offered contract calculated as follows: (Total contract value) / (LESSER of 5 years OR term of offered contract)In order for a team to issue an offer sheet that team must have the draft picks available to surrender as compensation AND the draft picks must be their own. They cannot use picks acquired by trade. Since Boston doesn't have their own second round draft pick they would have to issue an offer sheet that only uses first round picks - i.e. their next four first round picks. This implies that the AAV of their offer sheet would have to be at least $9,388,080 per year up to five years. If they offered a seven year term they could go as low as $6.705 million per year, which is why the offer sheet rumour being tossed around is of the 7 year $7 million variety. If Boston wants to offer Trouba $7 million per year for seven years then I'm good with getting FOUR first round draft picks in return. I don't think Boston's a team on the rise so those picks could be lottery picks. 2019: Stanley Cup Champion Winnipeg Jets will be selecting first overall in the 2019 NHL entry draft. Thanks Boston! m. Yeah I believe that's the idea. The offer sheet is over $9,131,645 to make up for picks they would need to offer. So four first rounders.
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Post by phillymike on Jun 29, 2016 11:17:43 GMT -6
Wow. If this is true, I'd say bye bye Trouba.
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Post by phillymike on Jun 29, 2016 11:23:28 GMT -6
wikipediia is out dated on this, that figure is from 2011. As per 2015: AVERAGE ANNUAL VALUE COMPENSATION Less than $1,205,377 Nothing $1,205,377-to-$1,826,328 Third-round pick $1,826,328-to-$3,652,659 Second-round pick $3,652,659-to-$5,478,986 First and third-round picks $5,478,986-to-$7,305,316 First, second and third-round picks $7,305,316-to-$9,131,645 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks $9,131,645 or greater Four first-round picks No that's exactly what I have. See above. I'm so confused!! Ala Vinny Barbarino
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 11:37:26 GMT -6
Just heard on the radio again. It would be a 9.3 million offer sheet and four first round drafts. As it turns out it works out to the team of a $7 million/year cap hit.
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