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Post by swervinmervin on Aug 27, 2011 14:51:53 GMT -6
Lol
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Post by Lions67 on Aug 27, 2011 18:24:16 GMT -6
that was a huge post swervin. i did manage to read "almost" all of it. lol.....someone has something to say!....lol
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Aug 27, 2011 20:34:28 GMT -6
I'm sorry I didn't notice this very interesting discussion sooner. I'll be checking in on this page and this grouping often over the next year. I find this stuff really fascinating to follow. I am also hoping for more Canadian teams in the NHL, from a sentimental perspective, as a Canadian hockey fanatic. <snip> So, like it was for the return of the Jets, the troubled franchise watch continues. QC is next, as long as they get their stuff in order fast enough. But they absolutely need to do that, if they want the next team.
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Post by enarwpg on Aug 27, 2011 21:26:24 GMT -6
although I'm sure it was an interesting post, you lost me after the 1st paragraph...please feel pity for those reading via smart phone. "....in short...." you're kidding right? ...with the incredible amount of information available today on-line, in print, on TV, on Facebook, on Twitter, most people are not going to, nor have the time to read a mini-novel which basically says the next troubled NHL team will move to Quebec City, but only if QC gets its Crap in order. In reality if something can't be said in four or five sentences 90% of readers will just move on to the next post. Like me after reading only the last paragraph and you after reading the 1st....
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Post by Tim on Aug 29, 2011 6:17:31 GMT -6
[/b][/i] Just curious what hoops were Bettman making the owners go through that you talked about?Those are questions guys like Mark Chipman, Ross Robinson would know about but now that they have a team again, that information won't resurface, would not be smart to air the dirty laundry. Ross Robinson was a very big player in putting the ownership group together, he has lots of neat stories. Wasn't the part that derailed it? No one wanted to own the team due other factors like no cap, small population and small growth at that time, the horrible dollar and horrible economy back then? Yes and no, the will and the funding was there then roadblocks and infighting started. Gary wanted out of Winnipeg and there was no way he was letting this succeed. If Phoenix had 25% of the support that Manitoba showed back then they would be a very secure team. The bottom line is that if Gary want the Jets to stay in Winnipeg back then it would have happened, everything was in place for it to happen, and most of all they had the support of the community and the province, something most US failing franchise don't have. I will leave it at Gary hated small markets with large fan support, and would rather take a chance with a large market with no fans and try to sell them on the game. Hences all of the big changes in the game in the last 15 years trying to appease non traditional markets. Funny the one things some of those markets really liked about the game and sparked there curiosity was fighting in the game, and Gary really did a number on that part of the game. (Hope he is now happy about the cheep hits and the head shots he created by taking the enforces out of the game to police that crap)[/quote] Ok you convinced me. Bettman didn't want Winnipeg the 1st time. Thanks a lot for all the inside info on the failed arena attempt. I had never seen all that before on any ballpark/stadium sites or even jets owner. I still say it all worked out for the best. [/quote] It's bad that we need to convince hockey fans out side of Winnipeg the truce behind what really happened here especially when the facts are here. Things like the INTERNET were not prevalent 16 years ago, so you just have to look a little harder for the truce but it is out there, and if all else fails, just ask someone who was there they never forget the truce. I still say it all worked out for the best.It did work out for the best, let just hope that our politicians, mayors, and city councilors have learned from this 16 year gap. The fans were always here and we never left, but our strength and support is a 100 times stronger and Winnipeg will never take their team for granted ever again.
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Post by Douggy-D on Aug 29, 2011 11:41:27 GMT -6
^You guys never even took the Jets for granted the first time.
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Post by Tim on Aug 29, 2011 12:12:52 GMT -6
^You guys never even took the Jets for granted the first time. Was talking about the 3 blind mice of the time! "Provincial politicians, Mayors, and City Councilors"
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Post by Douggy-D on Aug 29, 2011 13:18:18 GMT -6
Ah, I see.
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Post by swervinmervin on Sept 2, 2011 18:55:53 GMT -6
From twitter at approximately 7:30 Wpg time September 2:
ZoneNordiques QcFan L'entente pour la gestion du Colisée est signée! Enfin! par QcFan - LE GRAND CLUB legrandclub.rds.ca/profils/607198… via @rdsca ZoneNordiques QcFan
Using Google translate: The agreement for the management of the Coliseum is signed! Finally! by QcFan - THE BIG CLUB ... legrandclub.rds.ca/profils/607198 via @ rdsca
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Post by swervinmervin on Sept 2, 2011 18:58:08 GMT -6
If the above twitter post is accurate, maybe QC will get shovels in the ground soon for their new arena! I guess the next issue is political - will this get stonewalled in the National Assembly? Go Nordiques!!!!!!
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Post by jjmoohead on Sept 2, 2011 19:06:42 GMT -6
I sure hope it gets going, the yotes will need a new home next season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2011 19:54:54 GMT -6
Return of the Nordiques?
Weird...I play them in my sim league preseason opener tomorrow ;D
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Post by Guardian on Sept 2, 2011 20:47:50 GMT -6
I would love to see hockey back in Quebec City!
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Post by rabenga on Sept 13, 2011 12:40:37 GMT -6
I am not convinced that Quebec and other cities are going to get relocated franchises. It may be in the best interest of the NHL to fold franchises in the struggling markets and then provide expansion franchises to Quebec & Seattle( ). The NHL will make a lot more cash if they sell Quebec an expansion franchise. Just IMO.
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Post by swervinmervin on Sept 13, 2011 17:19:40 GMT -6
I am not convinced that Quebec and other cities are going to get relocated franchises. It may be in the best interest of the NHL to fold franchises in the struggling markets and then provide expansion franchises to Quebec & Seattle( ). The NHL will make a lot more cash if they sell Quebec an expansion franchise. Just IMO. You might be right. BUT, Bettman has said that one of his mandates is to try to maintain the value of existing franchises. If franchises fold, the potential downside is that it casts doubt on the value of other franchises - especially if more than one location folds. Bettman appears to be favouring relocation, in order to argue that the franchise value is holding (e.g. Winnipeg, obviously). That's why relocation is being viewed more favourably than folding/contraction.
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