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Post by Bruinsfan on Apr 12, 2015 16:04:17 GMT -6
I think its quite frankly a stupid assertion to not promote the game...you dont have to play games plcaes you plan on putting a team. You do it for marketing. Vancouver could be done and oh easy solution to the marienrs problem? The jays have to play a the mariners have their west coast trip against the mariners be in vancouver...Jays home game but really a promotional trip for the mariners. Maybe not half the games but at least a few series. Then you can get creative with the Jays have them play home series in a bunch of different places. a few games in San Juan, Maybe a game in mexico city...make them the globe trotters for a year. and this is all on the weird assumption that the only place in toronto to build a jaysretro park is at the rogers center....Im sure the city wil love losing its convention center for a retro park...there has to be another spot to build a stadium, retro parks have a small footprint compared to other sports stadiums Mariners vs. Jays would work and wouldn't be a bad idea IF it wasn't too expensive to move the scoreboard. You could have Jays home games in Vancouver vs. Seattle then play Seattle in Seattle to save on travel. You can't overdo it with travel though. Remember the players union gets to approve the schedule. When the Expos played in Puerto Rico the union had to ok that. Expos players didn't like the extra travel. I like the Mexico City idea. Could start the season there for a 3 game series one year. Maybe they start another year in Tokyo. Year 3 in Brazil. Don't care much for Puerto Rico games. The Expos series there sucked after year 1. Puerto Rico/San Juan is also in a demographic death spiral. Toronto is really built up. It would be very hard to find a proper place for a stadium. Best option would be to find maybe a waterfront park so you can stay at the Dome until a new park opens. They tear down the dome and put development on site to pay for the park. But knowing rogers they will do a half @ssed renovation of the dome. I wouldnt mind them finding a way to play games in europe somewhere. Maybe the NEtherlands, hell even England. you can convert cricket grounds to baseball parks. If we are converting cricket Grounds...MLB should play a game in India too, would be a fun spectacle...maybe even play a Japanese team there. I do love the idea of a travelling team for 2 years. The PA would hate it but a chance to play legit games in other markets to grow baseball? Im all for it. Also Not for demographic purposes but an exhibition against the cuban national team would be fantastic.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Apr 13, 2015 20:08:04 GMT -6
Couldnt the MLB just expand by 1 team. It will make scheduling easier in 1 league and then they can wait on market 2
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 13, 2015 22:58:22 GMT -6
NO. MLB plays 162 games in 183 days. MLB teams play almost everyday. You can't possibly have one team with an off day each day of the season. It's not like the other sports. MLB has to have an even number of teams. This by far more so than getting a stadium and crap dollar is Montreal's biggest problem.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Apr 14, 2015 21:06:18 GMT -6
NO. MLB plays 162 games in 183 days. MLB teams play almost everyday. You can't possibly have one team with an off day each day of the season. It's not like the other sports. MLB has to have an even number of teams. This by far more so than getting a stadium and crap dollar is Montreal's biggest problem. Time for abseball to change a little. Or expand by 2. And in the end the baseball purists with the schedule are essentially arguing logistics....its not like MLB season doesnt keep going later and later....if the owners had it their way the games would be played until christmas.
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 14, 2015 21:30:39 GMT -6
Your talking about cutting the season WAY WAY the hell back if you want to go with an odd number of teams. No way in hell is MLB going to do that with what local TV deals are going for. Certain not to add a small(ish) market foreign city with a bad dollar. As far as a 2 team expansion there is no where else to go. You got to wait a while for another US city to make expanding worth while. Also this week Manfred talked about how Montreal is a good candidate for a team. When pressed for another city he named Mexico City in the long term. LOL. Try paying MLB salaries with the peso. www.cnbc.com/id/102576525
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 14, 2015 21:32:15 GMT -6
A lot of this Montreal talk is leverage. Field of Schemes take. New MLB commissioner is worst ever at explaining stadium blackmail demandsPosted on April 14, 2015 by Neil deMause Okay, it’s official: New MLB commissioner Rob Manfred really sucks at shaking down cities for stadium deals. Or rather, he sucks at putting those shakedowns into English. I mean, listen to this: “ I think it is really important for baseball to have viable alternatives with respect to expansion and relocation,” Manfred said [of a possible team in Montreal]. “It’s just good business to make an effort to make sure that we have alternatives available to us in the event that there is a problem. I’m reluctant to characterize them as only relevant on the context of relocation, because I think our sport’s a great sport. It’s tremendously healthy and it has the potential to grow so that I see it as both an expansion and relocation issue.” I had to read that three times just to figure out even partly what Manfred meant by it; how on earth are the poor francophones in Montreal supposed to suss that out as a “build it with taxpayer loonies, and we will come” ultimatum? I mean, come on, “characterize them as only relevant on the context of relocation,” who talks like that? Sheesh, lawyers. Anyway, the upshot of all of Manfred’s verbiage is that Montreal might get a team someday through expansion, or it might get a relocated team, but it’s way too soon to talk about either of those, especially without a stadium. But you knew all that already, as did everyone in Montreal, so all this was going to do was maybe get some scare headlines in Tampa Bay, since Manfred made his statement at a Rays game in Toronto. Scare headlines in Tampa, anybody? Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred talks about Rays stadium issue Yeah, that’s probably about the best he can hope for. Oh dear, oh dear, doesn’t anyone know how to haggle anymore? www.fieldofschemes.com/2015/04/14/8838/new-mlb-commissioner-is-worst-ever-at-explaining-stadium-blackmail-demands/
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