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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 5:23:25 GMT -6
About time the Argonauts found a decent stadium to play in. The Skydome was a colossal mistake right from the start. Ugliest stadium in North America.
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Post by Bruinsfan on May 22, 2015 18:26:47 GMT -6
oh and 4 colts balls were under weight, the only 4 tested at half time. The NFL went on a witch hunt and gave a guy a blank check who needed justification. I still think they should have revoked the Saints franchise, for their deliberate attempts to injure players. Favre would have played Manning in the 2010 Super Bowl if he had not been roughed up. Compared to Bounty Bowl, this is relatively minor. bounties is bad because its really against the spirit, you want to play hard hit hard be physical but you shouldnt wish injury on anyone. Thats why you see players shake players hands when they are carted off because its a respect thing among warriors
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Post by Bruinsfan on May 22, 2015 18:31:05 GMT -6
I love that the FL exists...some rules i dont like...short missed field goal for a 1 for instance, I would like to see a 1 point line say the 40 or so. I dont like forward motion it takes skill away from receivers. bursting from a stop or sideways motion is a huge critical football skill for a receiver...
I dont like 3 downs but thats the heart of the CFL so I can live with it, I just wish there was more of a running game.
Yard off the ball makes for big hits off running starts but i think it screws with the blitz game.
But i respect the CFL I wish more players went up there to rebuild their careers, for instance Id love to see tebo in canada
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Post by USApegger on May 23, 2015 7:13:17 GMT -6
^ Maybe in Boston, might be nice to have a team that dosen't have to cheat to win Is this a joke or sarcasm? You do realize Brady actually played better in the second half Goodell should be fired, he is incompetent. 2 games for domestic abuse to Rice until public pressure made him cave, and 4 games to Brady with no direct proof of anything and it didn't affect that game at all. All teams cheat every play, just like in hockey. I bet almost every player has an illegal stick
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Post by mikecubs on May 23, 2015 7:37:51 GMT -6
About time the Argonauts found a decent stadium to play in. The Skydome was a colossal mistake right from the start. Ugliest stadium in North America. You are correct that skydome was a mistake but there are actually uglier stadiums. Tropicana Field is far uglier and is poor located without a roof that does not open. Oakland Coliseum is also worst. Edward Jones in NFL is also uglier. But the good thing is the teams that play in those places want new stadiums. The Blue Jays don't since they are the most inept organization in any of the 4 major pro sports.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 7:49:24 GMT -6
About time the Argonauts found a decent stadium to play in. The Skydome was a colossal mistake right from the start. Ugliest stadium in North America. You are correct that skydome was a mistake but there are actually uglier stadiums. Tropicana Field is far uglier and is poor located without a roof that does not open. Oakland Coliseum is also worst. Edward Jones in NFL is also uglier. But the good thing is the teams that play in those places want new stadiums. The Blue Jays don't since they are the most inept organization in any of the 4 major pro sports. The SkyDome was $600 million to build. Not only that, it was built at a time when these massive multi-sport complexes (Domes, etc) were going out of style, in favor of traditional parks like Camden yards and Komisky Park. The SkyDome, at 54,000 seats, was too big for baseball, and not big enough to lure an NFL team to Canada. I've been there once, and I was not impressed. I would rather endure April weather outdoors, in a nice stadium, then in a concrete jungle, with no character.
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Post by mikecubs on May 23, 2015 10:41:54 GMT -6
Ouch!!! At least when we built our crappy circular stadiums they weren't crazy expensive. Canada went all out to build both Olympic Stadium and Skydome.
Skydome was built right before Comiskey Park and Camden Yards. It was just terrible timing. If things could have gotten delayed just a few years they would have built a retro park. The entire park is just crap other than the hotel and view of the CN tower. I think just about everyone in Toronto feels how you do. If you built a waterfront retro park the Jays would be an elite franchise revenue wise/attendance wise. The dome just sucks the life out of the team. Unfortunately Rogers will do a half @ssed renovation job that will cost too much and only slightly improve the place. That land the Dome is on is prime land. You could build a retro water front park and develop the dome land to pay for it. But Rogers doesn't think creatively like this. They always settle for crap.
FYI Comiskey wasn't originally considered a retro park. Camden was considered the 1st retro park. Comiskey was hated in Chicago when it opened because the upper deck was too big(it looked like a ski slope), there was too much exposed concrete and the ugly blue seats made it sterile. Reinsdorf sold the naming rights to it so he could pay for a renovation. They chopped off the upper 1/3rd of the upper deck, put brickwork in the concourses and went with green seats. Good thing was even though Comiskey sucked when it opened the flaws were fixable. You can't fix Rogers Centre since it's bowl is circular and the outside facade of the stadium is concrete.
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Post by mikecubs on May 24, 2015 9:44:40 GMT -6
Blue Jays mulling installation of dirt infieldLogistical issues won’t allow the Toronto Blue Jays to fast-track plans for a natural grass playing surface, but installing a dirt infield in the interim is something they’re examining. While nothing is set in stone, the intriguing possibility is opened up by the Toronto Argonauts’ departure for BMO Field in 2016, two years ahead of schedule. That won’t change the 2018 goal for putting grass into Rogers Centre, as first reported by Brendan Kennedy of the Toronto Star. Resolving issues such as ventilation, humidity control and the development of a sustainable turf blend all require time. But putting in a dirt infield — no small task in its own right — might be possible before then with the Argos leaving after this season. “I would say it is something we’ve discussed internally but certainly nothing definitive and certainly won’t put a time on it,” Stephen Brooks, the Blue Jays’ senior vice president, business operations, said via email. “It requires the removal of several inches of concrete, and all the planning and logistics around committed events.” A dirt infield would ease the physical toll of playing on artificial turf for infielders and baserunners, while also offering a more aesthetically pleasing look. The Tampa Bay Rays, the only other team in the majors with an artificial surface, have a dirt infield. www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-mulling-installation-of-dirt-infield/#BlueJays
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 11:13:34 GMT -6
Blue Jays mulling installation of dirt infieldLogistical issues won’t allow the Toronto Blue Jays to fast-track plans for a natural grass playing surface, but installing a dirt infield in the interim is something they’re examining. While nothing is set in stone, the intriguing possibility is opened up by the Toronto Argonauts’ departure for BMO Field in 2016, two years ahead of schedule. That won’t change the 2018 goal for putting grass into Rogers Centre, as first reported by Brendan Kennedy of the Toronto Star. Resolving issues such as ventilation, humidity control and the development of a sustainable turf blend all require time. But putting in a dirt infield — no small task in its own right — might be possible before then with the Argos leaving after this season. “I would say it is something we’ve discussed internally but certainly nothing definitive and certainly won’t put a time on it,” Stephen Brooks, the Blue Jays’ senior vice president, business operations, said via email. “It requires the removal of several inches of concrete, and all the planning and logistics around committed events.” A dirt infield would ease the physical toll of playing on artificial turf for infielders and baserunners, while also offering a more aesthetically pleasing look. The Tampa Bay Rays, the only other team in the majors with an artificial surface, have a dirt infield. www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-mulling-installation-of-dirt-infield/#BlueJays I still can't get over the City of Toronto, and how it designed the SkyDome, considering the city had planned to make a serious bid for the 1996 Olympics. If only they had built a 70,000 seat stadium, with an Olympic sized track, they could have been host to not only the Olympic Games, but also an NFL team. The Blue Jays could have had a 40,000 grass stadium built a few years later, and everyone would ahve been happy. The cost overruns on SkyDone were insane. It was pegged at $200 million, and ended up being nearly three times that amount. Very poor planning. I recall the Argos used to always complain about the field, as the Blue Jays were given preference. The stadium was a novelty. Once the new ballpark feel wore off, and the Jays stopped being contenders, attendance dropped off drastically. It's such a shame that Toronto essentially made the same mistake as Montreal did, and both cities have these huge domed stadiums that they do not want. At least when BC Place Stadium was built, the cost was under $20 million to build (not inflation adjusted). It was on schedule, and paid for itself within a few years.
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Post by wolfmannick on May 24, 2015 11:19:33 GMT -6
^ no use going on about a new stadium. Rogers won't even consider a new one as long as the dome is still standing. They will cheap out as much as possible. Only way for the jays to get better and get a good stadium is for Rogers to sell the team to someone who wants to win.
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Post by Bruinsfan on May 24, 2015 16:01:18 GMT -6
Who owns the argos? BEll? Im surprised Rogers doesnt launch another CFL team to ignore and play in the crappy rogers center.
a 12 team CFL would be a better league Quebec City, Atlantic, and then you find a third expansion
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Post by mikecubs on May 24, 2015 22:26:24 GMT -6
Bell now does along with Larry Tanenbaum. It's unknown if Toronto will support the Argos even WITH a proper stadium. Last thing Toronto needs is a 2nd CFL team. Many people in Toronto find the CFL minor league and don't like it. It was very hard to find a buyer for the Argos even.
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Post by mikecubs on May 24, 2015 22:28:52 GMT -6
^ no use going on about a new stadium. Rogers won't even consider a new one as long as the dome is still standing. They will cheap out as much as possible. Only way for the jays to get better and get a good stadium is for Rogers to sell the team to someone who wants to win. I know. One can dream. Rogers will pick the worst possible option. They will spend just enough on the dome so they can say look we spent 250M dollars now we have to stay another 20-30 years. If they aren't going to build a new stadium what they should do is at least not put much money into the dome. Do minor renovations like the thing with the dirt basepaths etc. What I think they will do instead is spend 100s of millions on a new roof.
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Post by mikecubs on May 24, 2015 22:38:39 GMT -6
Blue Jays mulling installation of dirt infieldLogistical issues won’t allow the Toronto Blue Jays to fast-track plans for a natural grass playing surface, but installing a dirt infield in the interim is something they’re examining. While nothing is set in stone, the intriguing possibility is opened up by the Toronto Argonauts’ departure for BMO Field in 2016, two years ahead of schedule. That won’t change the 2018 goal for putting grass into Rogers Centre, as first reported by Brendan Kennedy of the Toronto Star. Resolving issues such as ventilation, humidity control and the development of a sustainable turf blend all require time. But putting in a dirt infield — no small task in its own right — might be possible before then with the Argos leaving after this season. “I would say it is something we’ve discussed internally but certainly nothing definitive and certainly won’t put a time on it,” Stephen Brooks, the Blue Jays’ senior vice president, business operations, said via email. “It requires the removal of several inches of concrete, and all the planning and logistics around committed events.” A dirt infield would ease the physical toll of playing on artificial turf for infielders and baserunners, while also offering a more aesthetically pleasing look. The Tampa Bay Rays, the only other team in the majors with an artificial surface, have a dirt infield. www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-mulling-installation-of-dirt-infield/#BlueJays I still can't get over the City of Toronto, and how it designed the SkyDome, considering the city had planned to make a serious bid for the 1996 Olympics. If only they had built a 70,000 seat stadium, with an Olympic sized track, they could have been host to not only the Olympic Games, but also an NFL team. The Blue Jays could have had a 40,000 grass stadium built a few years later, and everyone would ahve been happy. The cost overruns on SkyDone were insane. It was pegged at $200 million, and ended up being nearly three times that amount. Very poor planning. I recall the Argos used to always complain about the field, as the Blue Jays were given preference. The stadium was a novelty. Once the new ballpark feel wore off, and the Jays stopped being contenders, attendance dropped off drastically. It's such a shame that Toronto essentially made the same mistake as Montreal did, and both cities have these huge domed stadiums that they do not want. At least when BC Place Stadium was built, the cost was under $20 million to build (not inflation adjusted). It was on schedule, and paid for itself within a few years. I don't think Toronto would have gotten the NFL with a 70,000 seat stadium. I don't think the NFL wants to go to Canada because of the national tv deal in the US and Buffalo needs Ontario as part of their territory to survive given that Buffalo is a small declining rust belt. If the NFL did give them a team it wouldn't have worked. The Bills in Toronto series was a TOTAL BUST and they had to cancel it. If Toronto wanted NFL they would have showed up for that, they didn't. For all the talk about how minor league CFL is in Toronto you would have thought they would have showed up for NFL to make a good impression. Other thing is I don't think the NFL wanted to be the bad guy who hurt/killed the CFL. It's just bad luck with building the dome. Larry Luchinno(the current Boston Red Sox President) was the guy with the Camden Yards idea. Before that no one had the retro park idea and building ugly circular stadiums was the way to do it. The problem isn't even that the Jays built the dome. The problem is they are stupid enough to keep it and sink big money into trying to fix it instead of trying to build a new one. If the Jays were creative enough they could privately finance a retro park. Toronto is a HUGE market with a ton of $$$. BC Place was cheap to build but in the past few years they sunk what? 500M dollar into it to build that fancy new roof.
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Post by mikecubs on May 25, 2015 18:56:05 GMT -6
Mike Hogan @tsnmikehogan #Argo source says phones 'ringing like crazy' after Wed's announcement. One rep says he himself dealt with over 100 requests today #CFL
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