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Post by Guardian on Sept 20, 2020 15:35:12 GMT -6
Wow. That looks incredible!
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Post by mikecubs on Sept 20, 2020 16:31:24 GMT -6
Remember how they always called this a $5B stadium? The actual cost is about $3B the other $2B is for the future development around it. Also in the NBA the LA Clippers are moving out of downtown Staples Center and building a new arena next door to this stadium in Inglewood scheduled to open in fall 2024.
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Post by mikecubs on Sept 20, 2020 17:50:23 GMT -6
The Chargers blow a 17-6 lead and lose in overtime 23-20. Go back to San Diego you bums!
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Post by iceland2018 on Sept 21, 2020 13:51:26 GMT -6
San Diego has no NFL-ready arena, do they? Would they renovate their old arena, or construct a new home?
The Chargers are going to be hemorrhaging money for years. Where is a good place to move an NFL team to?
If the CFL folds, I can see Toronto building an 80,000 seat stadium.
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Post by wolfmannick on Sept 22, 2020 1:10:39 GMT -6
San Diego has no NFL-ready arena, do they? Would they renovate their old arena, or construct a new home? The Chargers are going to be hemorrhaging money for years. Where is a good place to move an NFL team to? If the CFL folds, I can see Toronto building an 80,000 seat stadium. Only way Toronto gets a team is if it's the Bills
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Post by mikecubs on Sept 22, 2020 20:31:26 GMT -6
San Diego has no NFL-ready arena, do they? Would they renovate their old arena, or construct a new home? The Chargers are going to be hemorrhaging money for years. Where is a good place to move an NFL team to? If the CFL folds, I can see Toronto building an 80,000 seat stadium. The old stadium is being torn down to make room for a new 35,000 seat stadium for San Diego State University and development around that. See the Chargers return to San Diego thread. It's expandable to 55,000 seats for an NFL team which is bear minimum ish if they find a way to pay for an expansion. It would be the NFL's MTS Centre, bear minimum of what is acceptable. San Diego is about the only good place left when you consider San Antonio is unlikely due to Jerry Jones power to keep another team out of Texas The Chargers have no fans but won't lose money with the national TV deals. I don't see Toronto paying for a $2B stadium and I don't think the NFL will let a team there with Buffalo nearby since the Bills are the NFL's least valuable team and need South Ontario's support to survive. Also Toronto crapped the bed when it came to supporting the Bills in Toronto series. I don't care what anyone says that was a trial run to move the Bills north.
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Post by mikecubs on Nov 24, 2021 17:06:27 GMT -6
Rams, NFL settle St. Louis' lawsuit over franchise's relocation to Los Angeles for $790 millionThe NFL and Rams owner Stan Kroenke will pay $790 million to settle a lawsuit filed by St. Louis interests over the team's relocation to Los Angeles, a joint statement from St. Louis city and county said Wednesday. The settlement does not include a promise from the NFL to grant St. Louis an expansion franchise in the future, a source familiar with the agreement told ESPN, confirming a report by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. That idea wasn't seriously discussed, the source told ESPN. It wasn't immediately clear how much would be paid by Kroenke and how much would be covered by owners of the league's 31 other teams."This historic agreement closes a long chapter for our region, securing hundreds of millions of dollars for our communities while avoiding the uncertainty of the trial and appellate process,'' read a statement from St. Louis Mayor Tishaura Jones and St. Louis County Executive Sam Page. St. Louis area officials haven't yet determined how the settlement funds will be used, the statement said. An NFL spokesman, in a brief statement, said the league and the St. Louis interests "have been able to fully resolve the dispute.'' The settlement, reached in mediation, ends a 4½-year-old lawsuit filed in the wake of the Rams' departure. Kroenke and the NFL had failed in bids to have the lawsuit dismissed or at least moved out of St. Louis, and courts were sympathetic to the St. Louis side's effort to disclose financial information of team owners -- rulings that hastened the push for a settlement. The case had been scheduled to go to trial Jan. 10. The lawsuit sought more than $1 billion. It claimed the team's move cost the St. Louis region millions of dollars in amusement, ticket and earnings tax revenue. Then-owner Georgia Frontiere moved the Rams from Los Angeles in 1995 to her hometown of St. Louis, where they stayed for 21 seasons before Kroenke moved them back. Kroenke, a Missouri real estate developer who is married to an heir of the Walmart fortune, became a minority owner when the team first came to St. Louis. Frontiere died in 2008 and left the team to her children, who sold the Rams to Kroenke in 2010. It wasn't long after that that the Rams began pushing for hundreds of millions of dollars in improvements to the downtown domed stadium built with taxpayer money in the early 1990s to attract an NFL team. St. Louis interests initially proposed a more modest upgrade, then eventually proposed a new $1 billion stadium along the Mississippi River that would be funded jointly by taxpayers, the team and the NFL. The league and the team balked. Instead, Kroenke purchased land in Inglewood, California. SoFi Stadium opened in September 2020 and is now home to both the Rams and the Los Angeles Chargers, who moved from San Diego in 2017. Beyond losing an NFL team, St. Louis residents were incensed by Kroenke's 29-page application to relocate ahead of the January 2016 owners meeting where the move was approved. The document was critical of St. Louis for its decline in population, questioned the region's economic future and called into question whether it could support baseball's Cardinals and hockey's Blues as well as an NFL franchise.The 2017 lawsuit filed on behalf of St. Louis, St. Louis County and the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority said Kroenke, other team officials and the league knew as early as 2013 that the Rams planned to relocate but lied in denying it. The lawsuit said the league ignored its own relocation guidelines in allowing the move. The NFL, Rams and Kroenke said the guidelines aren't iron-clad and the league had the right to approve a move that was clearly in the interest of the NFL and the owners of its 32 teams. The settlement comes after a string of in-court losses for Kroenke and the NFL, America's most popular and lucrative sports league. St. Louis Circuit Judge Christopher McGraugh ruled in July that there was sufficient evidence that Kroenke and others engaged in fraud, so he ordered NFL owners to release financial records. The purpose was to allow a jury to consider punitive damages if Kroenke and the NFL lost the lawsuit. Lawyers for NFL officials called the request for records "invasive,'' but the Missouri Supreme Court in September upheld the lower court order. The NFL and Kroenke had also sought to move the trial out of St. Louis, citing "undue influence'' over prospective jurors. But McGraugh denied the request in August, a decision later backed up by a Missouri appeals court. Kroenke and the NFL also sought unsuccessfully to have the case heard in arbitration rather than in court. www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32706415/source-nfl-settles-st-louis-lawsuit-rams-relocation-los-angeles-790m
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Post by mikecubs on Nov 24, 2021 17:09:38 GMT -6
This is a good deal for both sides and a win-win.
St. Louis gets $790M to help their impoverished/stagnant population wise town and don't waste money on trying to get another team
The NFL owners don't have to disclose financial information and don't have to give a team to a town that can't support it. $790M is chump change to the NFL owners and Kronke
NFL is going to be with 32 teams a long time I think. They aren't going back to St. Louis, I don't think you can get a 3rd team in Texas with Jerry Jones, if San Diego ever got a team it would be the Chargers going back but I don't see that happening. Their games sell out(with mostly road fans) and Spanos couldn't care less who's fans come as long as he gets $$$. In time with Justin Herbert/Joey Bosu they will build more of a fan base like the Clippers did in LA long term. They already have more fans with the new stadium than when they played at the MLS stadium. Toronto had their chance with the Bills series and blew it. Buffalo is going to get a new stadium and will need help from Canadian NFL fans since the market is so small so they will not give Toronto a team. Jerry Jones said as much a few months ago.
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 13, 2022 22:01:20 GMT -6
The Los Angeles Rams have won the super bowl in their home stadium. This is the Los Angeles Rams 1st super bowl win ever. They lost in 1979 and 2018. The did win the 1999 super bowl as the St Louis Rams.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Feb 14, 2022 9:56:20 GMT -6
Biggest loser in the superbowl...the chargers. I still dont get why they didnt try hard to go to Orange County (Chula vista?)
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Post by Bruinsfan on Feb 14, 2022 10:02:25 GMT -6
This is a good deal for both sides and a win-win. St. Louis gets $790M to help their impoverished/stagnant population wise town and don't waste money on trying to get another team The NFL owners don't have to disclose financial information and don't have to give a team to a town that can't support it. $790M is chump change to the NFL owners and Kronke NFL is going to be with 32 teams a long time I think. They aren't going back to St. Louis, I don't think you can get a 3rd team in Texas with Jerry Jones, if San Diego ever got a team it would be the Chargers going back but I don't see that happening. Their games sell out(with mostly road fans) and Spanos couldn't care less who's fans come as long as he gets $$$. In time with Justin Herbert/Joey Bosu they will build more of a fan base like the Clippers did in LA long term. They already have more fans with the new stadium than when they played at the MLS stadium. Toronto had their chance with the Bills series and blew it. Buffalo is going to get a new stadium and will need help from Canadian NFL fans since the market is so small so they will not give Toronto a team. Jerry Jones said as much a few months ago. agreed 790 is easy money for them. can put it out on credit if they need to and just pay it back overtime in a marginal percentage. I think the Chargers ultimately will be a socal marketed team playing in LA. They know they can grab OC fans, and SD fans on TV. They arent going to have an in city large presence ever though, the Rams will be the Cities team (if you dont count the raiders ). The battle will come down to the burbs with the chargers having a leg up in southern Orange County but the Rams in the northern ones.
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Post by ekjet72 on Feb 14, 2022 10:54:50 GMT -6
Now if the Cardinals can win one that will be history!
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 15, 2022 20:44:27 GMT -6
Biggest loser in the superbowl...the chargers. I still dont get why they didnt try hard to go to Orange County (Chula vista?) Because California doesn't do public funding for stadiums so they would have to pay for it themselves. They got a good deal with the rams. They didn't have to pay anything for the stadium and get to use it. The Chargers finished a 10th in NFL attendance this year though mostly with other fans. Their fan base did grow some. Most of the owners in the NFL or any sport couldn't care less who's fans fill a stadium they just like the $$$. In time the Chargers will gain their own fans with Justin Herbert. They will get a super bowl too. Look long term. When the Clippers came to LA and played in the hood at LA memorial coliseum they averaged 9,000 fans a game. When the moved to Staples Center they gained fans though mostly the other teams starting out and Laker fans who couldn't afford Laker tickets. In time people became Clipper fans and the Clippers are now one of the most valuable teams in the NBA and were able to privately finance their own arena. I still hope they fail but Spanos will probably end up being right.
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 15, 2022 20:48:18 GMT -6
This is a good deal for both sides and a win-win. St. Louis gets $790M to help their impoverished/stagnant population wise town and don't waste money on trying to get another team The NFL owners don't have to disclose financial information and don't have to give a team to a town that can't support it. $790M is chump change to the NFL owners and Kronke NFL is going to be with 32 teams a long time I think. They aren't going back to St. Louis, I don't think you can get a 3rd team in Texas with Jerry Jones, if San Diego ever got a team it would be the Chargers going back but I don't see that happening. Their games sell out(with mostly road fans) and Spanos couldn't care less who's fans come as long as he gets $$$. In time with Justin Herbert/Joey Bosu they will build more of a fan base like the Clippers did in LA long term. They already have more fans with the new stadium than when they played at the MLS stadium. Toronto had their chance with the Bills series and blew it. Buffalo is going to get a new stadium and will need help from Canadian NFL fans since the market is so small so they will not give Toronto a team. Jerry Jones said as much a few months ago. agreed 790 is easy money for them. can put it out on credit if they need to and just pay it back overtime in a marginal percentage. I think the Chargers ultimately will be a socal marketed team playing in LA. They know they can grab OC fans, and SD fans on TV. They arent going to have an in city large presence ever though, the Rams will be the Cities team (if you dont count the raiders ). The battle will come down to the burbs with the chargers having a leg up in southern Orange County but the Rams in the northern ones. Long term I bet both teams will be top 10 teams value wise like the Lakers/CLippers, Dodgers/Angels. Currently forbes has the Rams as 4th(as of September) and the Chargers 23rd. 18M people is just too many people not to be a top 10 team.
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 15, 2022 20:48:53 GMT -6
Now if the Cardinals can win one that will be history! Or the Browns/Lions
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