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Post by JETStender on Dec 7, 2016 22:25:43 GMT -6
canada has some pretty goofy trademarking law. It's not goofy it's the same reason that Boston pizza in the US has to call themselves Boston's
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Post by TheDeuce on Dec 8, 2016 10:25:32 GMT -6
canada has some pretty goofy trademarking law. Kind of like when Baltimore had a CFL team and they weren't allowed to call them the "Colts" even though they played a different game in a different league than the Indianapolis Colts? m.
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Post by USApegger on Dec 8, 2016 12:22:19 GMT -6
Yet we had the Roughriders and the Rough Riders for years
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Post by wolfmannick on Dec 8, 2016 15:29:25 GMT -6
Well now they were denied the trade mark on the name in the United states according to tsn
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Post by rainmanrh on Dec 8, 2016 20:53:08 GMT -6
Well now they were denied the trade mark on the name in the United states according to tsn You think they would have checked into this before announcing it.
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Post by TheDeuce on Dec 9, 2016 9:34:02 GMT -6
Yet we had the Roughriders and the Rough Riders for years Two different leagues merged; one with a Roughrider team the other with a Rough Rider team. IIRC the AHL had a similar situation after the IHL merger. m.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 14:04:45 GMT -6
Yet we had the Roughriders and the Rough Riders for years Two different leagues merged; one with a Roughrider team the other with a Rough Rider team. IIRC the AHL had a similar situation after the IHL merger. m. Admirals
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Post by Bruinsfan on Dec 15, 2016 18:19:05 GMT -6
canada has some pretty goofy trademarking law. It's not goofy it's the same reason that Boston pizza in the US has to call themselves Boston's Never understood the name, pizza in boston is pretty bad.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 2:31:58 GMT -6
Lame
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Post by wolfmannick on Feb 4, 2017 8:35:17 GMT -6
Have they gotten their naming trademark issues figured out yet?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 23:14:28 GMT -6
With the NHL coming to town, my gut feeling is Vegas will fail, and be in the exact predicament as the Coyotes. With a population base of only 2,000,000 people, it's hard to understand why the NHL let Vegas acquire a franchise. Well actually, its not difficult at all. The NHL thinks about the short term ($500 million) rather than the long term stability of the league.
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 5, 2017 16:38:51 GMT -6
With the NHL coming to town, my gut feeling is Vegas will fail, and be in the exact predicament as the Coyotes. With a population base of only 2,000,000 people, it's hard to understand why the NHL let Vegas acquire a franchise. Well actually, its not difficult at all. The NHL thinks about the short term ($500 million) rather than the long term stability of the league. You mean NFL? That's not coming unless Aldeson/Davis make up. Ya it was stupid to give Vegas a team without knowing if the NFL was coming but Bettman doesn't understand the concept of too many teams in a market. Luckily for the NHL they got away with one. With the NFL it would have been very hard but at least Vegas has a nicely located area unlike Arizona so even if it would have went wrong it wouldn't have been Coyote bad. It's possible they could have survived at a weak/barely passable level.
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Post by djk on Feb 8, 2017 16:03:31 GMT -6
Not sure the NFL would be an issue for NHL anyway. Not like NBA or MLB would anyway. A Vegas NFL team would only have 8 home games, and 2 of them would be in September before the NHL regular season starts. Yes, you would be competing for season tickets and local TV rights maybe or whatever, but NHL would be more affordable than NFL would.
I don't think it will be a long term success either way, I'm just not convinced the presence of an NFL team will make it much worse.
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 9, 2017 1:12:43 GMT -6
The NFL has only the national tv deal but I agree it's not nearly as bad as NBA(41 home games or MLB 81 home games) but it is competition. The NFL in this country gets ALL the attention. Watch ESPN. It's NFL 24-7. While only 8 games NFL tickets/boxes are insanely expensive. So while the games aren't time consuming they do suck up a lot of $$$.
Consider this. There are 29 2 team markets. Of the current bottom 7 CSA population wise at least one team is struggling/among the least valuable in their sports. 6 of these markets has NFL and another sport. Ususally it's the sport other than the NFL that struggles because they come 1st. The only outlier is Milwaukee with MLB/NBA. Vegas would be the 5th smallest 2 team market.
The only team in town thing is powerful. Say what you will about Vegas they sold out season 1 LEGITIMATELY. Arizona, Carolina, Nashville(a snow storm screw up one game last year) Columbus never sold out a season. Miami only sold out season 4 and 5 because they were playing in a 14,703 temp arena.
All pro sports coverage in Vegas will be the Knights. If the Raiders would have come it would have taken all the media attention especially with a ready made super bowl team. It's just not the 16 games. There's training camp, off season mini camps, the draft, David Carr/Khalil Mack contract extension talks, free agency, future super bowl parades etc... If the Raiders would have come the Knights wouldn't have existed.
NHL tickets would have been more affordable but that don't matter. They money would have went to the more popular league/championship ready team over an expansion roster. There is no 100% guarantee long term the Knights will keep it up but their odds are a LOT better without a superbowl ready team on the way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 8:37:27 GMT -6
Las Vegas will appearantly lose upwards of $30 million per year, right off the bat: nypost.com/2017/04/08/las-vegas-new-hockey-team-struggling-to-sell-media-rights/What a disaster this will be. If the NHL cared about the health of it's teams, they would have dropped the expansion fee to $300 million, so that cities like Quebec, Seattle, Portland, and Houston would seriously consider bids. As it is, the Vegas team will be the next Arizona Coyotes right out of the gate.
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