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Apr 19, 2017 6:26:59 GMT -6
Post by Tim on Apr 19, 2017 6:26:59 GMT -6
Winnipeg will probably have to pay way more then any other team to make it attractive! That might be the case today, when we are considered a contender that will change quickly. Personally I feel using free agency to build a team is not the way to go. I'd view it as when you think your a serious contender, you look to "add a piece". Your going to overpay and it will come back to bite you down the road, but it might be the only way to put you over the top short term. If we get a goaltender I have to agree with what they said on the radio yesterday how it would happen. Vegas would claim a goalie we want and then we would trade for him. This could be way better then going after a free agent.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:04:06 GMT -6
Post by rainmanrh on Apr 19, 2017 15:04:06 GMT -6
That might be the case today, when we are considered a contender that will change quickly. Personally I feel using free agency to build a team is not the way to go. I'd view it as when you think your a serious contender, you look to "add a piece". Your going to overpay and it will come back to bite you down the road, but it might be the only way to put you over the top short term. If we get a goaltender I have to agree with what they said on the radio yesterday how it would happen. Vegas would claim a goalie we want and then we would trade for him. This could be way better then going after a free agent. Ya, I think you will always get better value via the trade route, over free agency. Sometimes you have no option other than to bite the bullet if the hole is that big, and all other options have been exhausted. It will be interesting to see how things play out over the next weeks/months.
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Post by pachman40 on Apr 25, 2017 12:57:14 GMT -6
How about a different angle on the LHD situation instead of signing a lower level free agent? My apologies if this name has been brought up in the past, but I see a real opportunity to buy low on Olli Maatta. It seems his stock has dropped in Pittsburgh and they may be in some trouble with the expansion draft (over and above the goaltending situation) and could possibly leave Maatta exposed or be willing to deal reasonably to give themselves improved protection scenarios. Why did his stock drop? Combination of injuries, health issues, and the emergence of other defencemen in Pittsburgh. Does that mean he wouldn't be a huge upgrade for us?
Maatta regularly plays with, complements, and excels with a Byfuglienish player you might have heard of named Letang so that could solve one pairing for us. That would also allow us to pair Trouba permanently with Morrisey for a fantastic top 4 for years. Maatta has a long term contract (5 more years at 4 million), but it is a fair contract for a player who I don't think has reached his ceiling and gets some of his UFA years. Enstrom's cap hit will be gone after this coming season which more than makes up for Maatta and we solidify the top 4 for the foreseeable future (assuming Trouba signs). I realize that we have some big salaries coming into the picture in a couple of years once ELC's expire but that's the GM's job to manage. I also recognize that bringing in Maata will only complicate our own expansion draft scenarios, but isn't it worth it? I for one would much rather be forced into a situation where we need to go 4-4-1 instead of 7-3-1 because of our defense quality and give away a "top 9" leftover forward. Expose Myers and if he gets taken that's more than enough salary gone. If he doesn't get taken just imagine our defense for even one season being Trouba/Morrisey, Maatta/Byfuglien, Enstrom/Myers - best top 6 in the league.
Let's not hear the "Pittsburgh would never let him go" or "he would cost way too much" responses because that's the easy answer. I think he would be available for a fair price and if Pittsburgh is willing to deal, I would be happy to part with young forwards/prospects/draft choices to fill one of our two glaring long-term needs. Thoughts?
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Apr 25, 2017 18:00:32 GMT -6
Post by Tracker on Apr 25, 2017 18:00:32 GMT -6
How about Shea Theodore of the Ducks?
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Apr 28, 2017 7:12:25 GMT -6
Post by pogoboy on Apr 28, 2017 7:12:25 GMT -6
... Olli Maatta ... Thoughts? The thought of Maata never even crossed my mind. Interesting idea. I like the player. My only worry would be whether the Jets would be getting into another Myers type of situation with a really good, but oft-injured player. He would certainly be an upgrade on Enstrom at this point. Keeping Enstrom for one more season to play as #3 LHD would make the left look really strong with Maata, Morrissey, and Enstrom. Chairot makes for a decent #7. The right with Trouba, Buff, and Myers. The cap room would be there for next season, but Enstrom would have to be moved out after that with the Danish Dynamo up for a contract.
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Post by Tracker on Apr 28, 2017 8:12:59 GMT -6
I was listening to 1290 interviewing Travis Hamonic a couple of days ago, and it sure sounded like his heart has never really left Winnipeg. It would be very nice if things worked out that he could come home again with the Jets.
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Apr 28, 2017 10:56:14 GMT -6
Post by pachman40 on Apr 28, 2017 10:56:14 GMT -6
... Olli Maatta ... Thoughts? The thought of Maata never even crossed my mind. Interesting idea. I like the player. My only worry would be whether the Jets would be getting into another Myers type of situation with a really good, but oft-injured player. He would certainly be an upgrade on Enstrom at this point. Keeping Enstrom for one more season to play as #3 LHD would make the left look really strong with Maata, Morrissey, and Enstrom. Chairot makes for a decent #7. The right with Trouba, Buff, and Myers. The cap room would be there for next season, but Enstrom would have to be moved out after that with the Danish Dynamo up for a contract. I guess it's possible that Maatta would turn into another Myers, but can't assume that or we can always find faults in anyone available. As of today, who wouldn't trade Myers straight up for Maatta? I know I'd be driving Myers to the airport not because I have anything against him but simply because our team's need is for a good young LHD while Myers at the moment on our team is a third pairing RHD, nevermind that I personally believe Maatta is simply better than Myers. As far as Enstrom goes, there's no doubt that we're not getting good value for his salary, but once that salary expires I can think of a lot worse solutions than resigning him for a lot less money and putting him on the 3rd pairing with the ability to move up if we get injuries. Assuming Myers/Enstrom money off the books (2018) replaced with Maatta/ cheaper Enstrom that should open up around $3-4 million in salary towards our expiring ELC's and Trouba and solidify our left side D... all in time for our Stanley Cup run.
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Apr 28, 2017 11:04:10 GMT -6
Post by pachman40 on Apr 28, 2017 11:04:10 GMT -6
I was listening to 1290 interviewing Travis Hamonic a couple of days ago, and it sure sounded like his heart has never really left Winnipeg. It would be very nice if things worked out that he could come home again with the Jets. Nothing against Hamonic but I think that ship sailed assuming Trouba resigns (big if). If he was LHD then it would make sense for us, but I would rather give Trouba more money long term instead of bringing Hamonic in. Would definitely revisit in a couple years when Hamonic gets closer to free agency as there's a small possibility we might get a hometown discount for a really good dman.
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May 4, 2017 17:36:28 GMT -6
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Post by comakazi on May 4, 2017 17:36:28 GMT -6
I would assume all the trades or FA aquisitions the Jet will be doing will be after the expansion draft, because you wouldnt wanna add to protection spots as of now dont think Jets will lose a serious player. May need to make a trade with LV to make sure. I know that every other team will want some of what Vegas will probably aquire through expansion (a number of goalies and a lot of top 4, 5, 6 defence). What would the likelyhood of Jets getting a goalie who could share duties with Helle and challenge him to play better, and a left handed top 4-6 D (who can push Enstrom to the 3rd pairing) from Vegas via expansion/trades. The price would be high to acquire either one of those pieces i believe but the jets could package players like Dano, Armia, Tanev, Hutchinson. I think at least two of those guys would interest LV and maybe a pick or two. Im still dreaming of Chevy making a deal somehow at Expansion to get LV to take Enstrom off our hands.
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May 4, 2017 17:44:12 GMT -6
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Post by comakazi on May 4, 2017 17:44:12 GMT -6
At the very least the Jets should look at Del Zotto if he has any interest in the Jets and other LHD in FA. And maybe take a stab at a nice Bishop or Fleury esk FA goalie. Maybe offer Philly something for Neuvirth or Mason see who they dont need long term (prolly stick with Mason my guess). Chevy HAS to improve our goaltending and Defence this offseason without giving up any of our top fowards. Should be an interesting summer to watch whay the Jets do.
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May 4, 2017 21:55:40 GMT -6
Post by chrispy on May 4, 2017 21:55:40 GMT -6
Nobody knows what the cap will be and there are a number of goalies available also, if Jets can't make a deal with Vegas for one of the 12 D men they pick then it will come down to signing an Alzner, Smith or Del Zotto if they are willing to come here. The 11 days from expansion lists to free agency with an entry draft in the middle will be a great time to be a hockey fan. I hope Cheveldayoff has the ability to guide through that
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Post by Ric O. on May 4, 2017 21:57:50 GMT -6
Lose Enstrom or Perreault and it's addition by subtraction...I'm thinking, hoping anyway, that's how it turns out.
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May 9, 2017 22:21:09 GMT -6
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Post by comakazi on May 9, 2017 22:21:09 GMT -6
They should go after Del Zotto or Alzner.
Players like Smith, Kindl, or maybe Quincey. (Bit of a Wings fan) would be a good safety net but those last three wouldn't help us without another addition to D i don't believe.
Some decent RHD FA aswell maybe the Jets acquire one to trade for a LHD if they don't get one in FA. Love to see Shattenkirk in a Jets jersey but never gunna happen.
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Jun 29, 2017 8:33:40 GMT -6
Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2017 8:33:40 GMT -6
This thing deserves a bump as the story came out yesterday (june 28th) the Jets and Canadians have expressed "strong" interest in LHD Alzner. He was my choice.
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Jun 29, 2017 9:42:14 GMT -6
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Post by Rocky Mountain Jets Fan on Jun 29, 2017 9:42:14 GMT -6
This thing deserves a bump as the story came out yesterday (june 28th) the Jets and Canadians have expressed "strong" interest in LHD Alzner. He was my choice. He is a decent defensive defenceman but isn't going to overwhelm anyone. Probably pair up well with Buff keep him covered when he decides to play forward...
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