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Post by 2b9 on Jun 9, 2024 17:18:17 GMT -6
Yep, Mike is very informative, Mike always has his fingers on the pulse of things of this nature/magnitude. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍 Thank you You are welcome. All very well earned on your part. Love all of the information that you share and provide. You are awesome👍. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by 2b9 on Jun 9, 2024 17:22:06 GMT -6
Mike, it is fantastic to get these updates from you. I learn more about what's happening with the arena from you than I do from the media here in Calgary. Thank you. In all my following of stadium/arena news stuff I think the worst coverage in any city in the US or Canada is in Calgary. It's almost like they are unaware of a potential new arena. LOL 😂😉👍 Very secretive out there in Calgary, I lived out there for a couple of years in my younger years. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 23, 2024 6:28:52 GMT -6
Scotia Place name unveiled as work begins on new $800M arena for Calgary FlamesConstruction has begun on the new $800-million arena for the NHL’s Calgary Flames hockey team. Alberta Premier Danielle Smith and Calgary Mayor Jyoti Gondek joined others Monday picking up a chrome shovel to symbolically turn the sod to launch the multi-year process to replace one of the NHL’s oldest arenas.
The new building — to be named Scotia Place — is being built in the shadow of the Saddledome and its iconic saddle-shaped concave roof.“Today is a big day for Calgary. After a decade of talking, Calgary is breaking ground on a new events centre…a project that promises to become a cornerstone of our sports and entertainment district,” said city councillor Sonya Sharp, the chair of the committee overseeing the project. The arena is part of a new $1.2-billion event centre and entertainment district near the city’s downtown. The project plan includes plazas and gathering places, bars, restaurants and retail shops, with the main event centre hosting the NHL team along with other sports, concerts and events. The facility, with a seating capacity of 18,400, is expected to be completed in 2027. At that time the Saddledome will face the wrecking ball.In addition to the sod ceremony, new images of the arena were released. Bill Johnson, with the design firm HOK, said there was a lot of consultation with Indigenous groups. “I think the best buildings tell stories and narratives. It was important for us to come up with a story that resonated with this place,” Johnson said. A striking feature of the building is the central structure with a textured flame motif that emulates a home fire, which is accentuated when it is lit at night. “We came up with a fairly direct idea that this is a meeting place and this was the birthplace of this community and people gathered around the fire, and what better building type than a building that was designed to bring people together.” The design is intended to bring together Indigenous cultural perspectives reflecting the four elements of nature — fire, ice, land and air. The Saddledome has been home to the Calgary Flames since it was built in 1983. The Alberta government is committing a maximum $330 million for area infrastructure, to demolish the Saddledome and to cover off half of a new 1,000-seat community rink. “Today is all about new beginnings. We’re marking the start of the construction of the new arena and events districts and unveiling a vision of a renewed and revitalized downtown,” Smith said. The City of Calgary will put in $537 million and Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corp., which owns the Flames, will pay $40 million now and then $17 million a year over the course of a 35-year lease, with payments growing by one per cent a year. The Calgary Stampede, which runs the city’s signature summer festival and rodeo, will transfer land. Only Madison Square Garden, home of the New York Rangers, is technically older among NHL arenas than the Saddledome. But even that comes with an asterisk as the Rangers’ Manhattan home underwent a massive renovation and modernization a decade ago. globalnews.ca/news/10637393/calgary-arena-scotia-place/
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 23, 2024 6:30:27 GMT -6
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Post by 2b9 on Jul 23, 2024 6:40:14 GMT -6
Scotia Place name unveiled as work begins on new $800M arena for Calgary FlamesConstruction has begun on the new $800-million arena for the NHL’s Calgary Flames hockey team. Alberta Premier Danielle Smith and Calgary Mayor Jyoti Gondek joined others Monday picking up a chrome shovel to symbolically turn the sod to launch the multi-year process to replace one of the NHL’s oldest arenas.
The new building — to be named Scotia Place — is being built in the shadow of the Saddledome and its iconic saddle-shaped concave roof.“Today is a big day for Calgary. After a decade of talking, Calgary is breaking ground on a new events centre…a project that promises to become a cornerstone of our sports and entertainment district,” said city councillor Sonya Sharp, the chair of the committee overseeing the project. The arena is part of a new $1.2-billion event centre and entertainment district near the city’s downtown. The project plan includes plazas and gathering places, bars, restaurants and retail shops, with the main event centre hosting the NHL team along with other sports, concerts and events. The facility, with a seating capacity of 18,400, is expected to be completed in 2027. At that time the Saddledome will face the wrecking ball.In addition to the sod ceremony, new images of the arena were released. Bill Johnson, with the design firm HOK, said there was a lot of consultation with Indigenous groups. “I think the best buildings tell stories and narratives. It was important for us to come up with a story that resonated with this place,” Johnson said. A striking feature of the building is the central structure with a textured flame motif that emulates a home fire, which is accentuated when it is lit at night. “We came up with a fairly direct idea that this is a meeting place and this was the birthplace of this community and people gathered around the fire, and what better building type than a building that was designed to bring people together.” The design is intended to bring together Indigenous cultural perspectives reflecting the four elements of nature — fire, ice, land and air. The Saddledome has been home to the Calgary Flames since it was built in 1983. The Alberta government is committing a maximum $330 million for area infrastructure, to demolish the Saddledome and to cover off half of a new 1,000-seat community rink. “Today is all about new beginnings. We’re marking the start of the construction of the new arena and events districts and unveiling a vision of a renewed and revitalized downtown,” Smith said. The City of Calgary will put in $537 million and Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corp., which owns the Flames, will pay $40 million now and then $17 million a year over the course of a 35-year lease, with payments growing by one per cent a year. The Calgary Stampede, which runs the city’s signature summer festival and rodeo, will transfer land. Only Madison Square Garden, home of the New York Rangers, is technically older among NHL arenas than the Saddledome. But even that comes with an asterisk as the Rangers’ Manhattan home underwent a massive renovation and modernization a decade ago. globalnews.ca/news/10637393/calgary-arena-scotia-place/ It only took 10 years to get this done, and finally, it’s done. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by 2b9 on Jul 23, 2024 6:41:45 GMT -6
Looks really cool👍. Good for Calgary. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 23, 2024 6:56:48 GMT -6
With this new arena there are only 2 pre-90s arenas left in the NHL Seattle's Climate Pledge Arena(1962) and New York's Madison Square Garden(1968). Both received $1B plus renovations
In the 4 major sports there are only 14 pre-90's facilities left after a new calgary arena counting the Oakland Coliseum
1. Boston Red Sox-- Fenway Park(1912) Renovated(2002-2011) 2. Chicago Cubs-- Wrigley Field(1914)* Renovated(2014-2019) 3. Chicago Bears-- Soldier Field(1924) Renovated(2002-2003,2015)* 4. Green Bay Packers-- Lambeau Field(1957) Renovated(2001-2003,2011-2015) 5. Los Angeles Dodgers-- Dodger Stadium(1962) Renovated(2000,2012-2014,2019-2020) 6. Seattle Kraken-- Climate Pledge Arena(1962) Renovated(2018-2020) 7. Los Angeles Angels- Angel Stadium of Anaheim(1966) Renovated(1996-1998) 8. Oakland A's- RingCentral Coliseum(1966) Renovated(1995-1996) 9. New York Knicks/New York Rangers- Madison Square Garden(1968) Renovated (1991,2010-2013) 10. Kansas City Chiefs-- GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium(1972) Renovated(2007-2010) 11. Kansas City Royals-- Kauffman Stadium(1973) 12. New Orleans Saints-- Caesars Superdome(1975) Renovated(2006,2010-2011,2020-2024) 13. Miami Dolphins-- Hard Rock Stadium(1987) Renovated(2006-2009,2014-2016) 14. Toronto Blue Jays-- Rogers Centre(1989)* Renovated(2022-2024)
I count Oakland because there's still a slight chance the Vegas deal falls apart but I probably shouldn't. The Bears and Royals want new facilities. The Chiefs are undecided between building a new stadium on the Kansas side of Kansas City(a bill was recently pass in Kansas for new Chiefs and Royals stadiums, the Missouri side says they will also pass a bill soon for both) building a new stadium next to Arrowhead or renovating Arrowhead. The Angels are undecided between building a new stadium next to the current one or doing a renovation. The rest have recently undergone major renovations. Some day in the distant future MSG could be demolished to make way for an expanded Penn Station. The current Penn Station is underneath it but it would be super expensive to do it.
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Post by ekjet72 on Jul 23, 2024 8:36:54 GMT -6
Mike, the Seattle arena wasn't just a renovation and re-invigoration. It was a totally new arena built under the old roof. I have been lucky enough to have seen a game there. And there's nothing old in that building. Well except me and the wife. And that was just for one game.
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 23, 2024 16:32:32 GMT -6
Mike, the Seattle arena wasn't just a renovation and re-invigoration. It was a totally new arena built under the old roof. I have been lucky enough to have seen a game there. And there's nothing old in that building. Well except me and the wife. And that was just for one game. I know but it does have the historic roof and the date of the arena opening is considered 1962 because of the roof. Wrigley Field is mostly new except the ivy, marquee, parts of the upper deck and old scoreboard in center field. The bleachers have been torn down twice other than the area under the old scoreboard. The seating bowl behind home plate is new from a few years ago.
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Post by 2b9 on Jul 24, 2024 5:43:25 GMT -6
With this new arena there are only 2 pre-90s arenas left in the NHL Seattle's Climate Pledge Arena(1962) and New York's Madison Square Garden(1968). Both received $1B plus renovations In the 4 major sports there are only 14 pre-90's facilities left after a new calgary arena counting the Oakland Coliseum 1. Boston Red Sox-- Fenway Park(1912) Renovated(2002-2011) 2. Chicago Cubs-- Wrigley Field(1914)* Renovated(2014-2019) 3. Chicago Bears-- Soldier Field(1924) Renovated(2002-2003,2015)* 4. Green Bay Packers-- Lambeau Field(1957) Renovated(2001-2003,2011-2015) 5. Los Angeles Dodgers-- Dodger Stadium(1962) Renovated(2000,2012-2014,2019-2020) 6. Seattle Kraken-- Climate Pledge Arena(1962) Renovated(2018-2020) 7. Los Angeles Angels- Angel Stadium of Anaheim(1966) Renovated(1996-1998) 8. Oakland A's- RingCentral Coliseum(1966) Renovated(1995-1996) 9. New York Knicks/New York Rangers- Madison Square Garden(1968) Renovated (1991,2010-2013) 10. Kansas City Chiefs-- GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium(1972) Renovated(2007-2010) 11. Kansas City Royals-- Kauffman Stadium(1973) 12. New Orleans Saints-- Caesars Superdome(1975) Renovated(2006,2010-2011,2020-2024) 13. Miami Dolphins-- Hard Rock Stadium(1987) Renovated(2006-2009,2014-2016) 14. Toronto Blue Jays-- Rogers Centre(1989)* Renovated(2022-2024) I count Oakland because there's still a slight chance the Vegas deal falls apart but I probably shouldn't. The Bears and Royals want new facilities. The Chiefs are undecided between building a new stadium on the Kansas side of Kansas City(a bill was recently pass in Kansas for new Chiefs and Royals stadiums, the Missouri side says they will also pass a bill soon for both) building a new stadium next to Arrowhead or renovating Arrowhead. The Angels are undecided between building a new stadium next to the current one or doing a renovation. The rest have recently undergone major renovations. Some day in the distant future MSG could be demolished to make way for an expanded Penn Station. The current Penn Station is underneath it but it would be super expensive to do it. Thanks for the great info. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by 2b9 on Jul 24, 2024 5:48:44 GMT -6
Mike, the Seattle arena wasn't just a renovation and re-invigoration. It was a totally new arena built under the old roof. I have been lucky enough to have seen a game there. And there's nothing old in that building. Well except me and the wife. And that was just for one game. I know but it does have the historic roof and the date of the arena opening is considered 1962 because of the roof. Wrigley Field is mostly new except the ivy, marquee, parts of the upper deck and old scoreboard in center field. The bleachers have been torn down twice other than the area under the old scoreboard. The seating bowl behind home plate is new from a few years ago. Some of those old hockey buildings including ballparks were built real well, well enough that all is required is a major overhaul/renovation. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 27, 2024 16:50:13 GMT -6
Yep, Fenway, Wrigley, Dodger Stadium and Lambeau Field are absolute treasures, especially Wrigley and Fenway. The greatest record is sports is them being 112 and 110 years old. They are what inspired the retro ballpark wave that saved baseball. Baseball as it is, is the 3rd sport from another time. If the ugly cookie cutter stadiums like Vetrans Stadium, Riverfront Stadium, Three Rivers stadium or Olympic Stadium were still in use baseball would be dead.
Some of these need to be removed from the list(Soldier Field, Oakland Coliseum, Kauffman Stadium, Angles Stadium). Some won't be but are blah. The Superdome is dull but they did modernize it amenities wise. I wish Hurricane Katrina would have damaged it bad enough where it was un savable. The Dolphins stadium is alright post renovation but they should have build a new domed stadium. The canopy they build helps with the heat but it's still open air. The Jays should have went with a new retro park but the renovation did improve it a lot but it's still a bottom tier stadium. Kauffman Stadium in KC is cool with the water fountains but the rest of the stadium is outdated and it's too far from downtown. Angles stadium is blah and they should do a new stadium instead of renovation. I'm undecided on Arrowhead. MSG is fine but they should move it someday to open up Penn Station.
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Aug 2, 2024 22:21:43 GMT -6
We are hooped in Winnipeg.......
We will never see a new and proper arena with these types of amenities and other attractions in our lifetime.
TNSE has hamstrung us by buying up everything around the building that is boring AF and gives me no reason to want to go down there.
The building is already 20 years old, cramped and lacks any curb appeal.
Look at the dump parkade the players have to park in across the street, and its not even heated lol.....
This whole WJ2.0 has been piece meal from day one,
And now is dawning on me, this was by design and it started with the arena location, with intent of snapping up properties and building crap that doesn't attract or inspire interest.
Face it, TNSE is not a hockey organization, they are a Real Estate Group that has a hockey team in their portfolio.
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Post by mikecubs on Aug 8, 2024 12:49:55 GMT -6
We are hooped in Winnipeg....... We will never see a new and proper arena with these types of amenities and other attractions in our lifetime. TNSE has hamstrung us by buying up everything around the building that is boring AF and gives me no reason to want to go down there. The building is already 20 years old, cramped and lacks any curb appeal. Look at the dump parkade the players have to park in across the street, and its not even heated lol..... This whole WJ2.0 has been piece meal from day one, And now is dawning on me, this was by design and it started with the arena location, with intent of snapping up properties and building crap that doesn't attract or inspire interest. Face it, TNSE is not a hockey organization, they are a Real Estate Group that has a hockey team in their portfolio. Most sports teams now days have entertain districts etc... around their facilities. TSN's mistake was making such a cramped arena. Even if they went with the 15,000 they should have made the arena comfortable.
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Post by 2b9 on Aug 8, 2024 15:05:00 GMT -6
We are hooped in Winnipeg....... We will never see a new and proper arena with these types of amenities and other attractions in our lifetime. TNSE has hamstrung us by buying up everything around the building that is boring AF and gives me no reason to want to go down there. The building is already 20 years old, cramped and lacks any curb appeal. Look at the dump parkade the players have to park in across the street, and its not even heated lol..... This whole WJ2.0 has been piece meal from day one, And now is dawning on me, this was by design and it started with the arena location, with intent of snapping up properties and building crap that doesn't attract or inspire interest. Face it, TNSE is not a hockey organization, they are a Real Estate Group that has a hockey team in their portfolio. Most sports teams now days have entertain districts etc... around their facilities. TSN's mistake was making such a cramped arena. Even if they went with the 15,000 they should have made the arena comfortable. When our Arena was constructed, there were no thoughts at the time of Entertainment District’s attached or adjacent to Hockey Arena’s throughout the NHL. However, if you venture down to our Arena, there is all kinds of Restaurants and Entertainment within the area, including plans to revitalize a Street that runs East/West in around the Arena running very close to the Arena to make it feel more like a destination District. The were space issues for the Arena based on the size of the lot that the Arena was built on. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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