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Post by Tim on Aug 18, 2020 12:53:02 GMT -6
Time for a rebuild, Wheeler, Roslovic, Niku, Heinola, Perreault, are pieces put together in some combination that could help rebuild this team. Roslovic and Niku to Columbus because Columbus is the only place I see us getting any value for Jack, and It's time to move Wheeler since he is on the back end of his career but still has value. it will be painful to move Wheeler if and when it is time to do so. He has been the heart and face of this team. Chevy will have some tough decisons to make between seasons. Painful but the right decision!
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Post by babs44 on Aug 22, 2020 6:03:29 GMT -6
Can't see Wheeler being moved unless he asks for a trade. True North is so loyal they have the blinders on at times. Same with Little although with his injury that is a different situation. A very good player will need to be exposed to Seattle. Little would be a great choice with his injury not likely to be taken ? Perrault "should" be traded before then. Trades will be tricky as the Jets will need to keep an eye on who needs to be exposed.
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Post by ddanger on Aug 22, 2020 19:22:55 GMT -6
Time for a rebuild, Wheeler, Roslovic, Niku, Heinola, Perreault, are pieces put together in some combination that could help rebuild this team. Roslovic and Niku to Columbus because Columbus is the only place I see us getting any value for Jack, and It's time to move Wheeler since he is on the back end of his career but still has value. it will be painful to move Wheeler if and when it is time to do so. He has been the heart and face of this team. Chevy will have some tough decisons to make between seasons. I can't see moving Wheeler period. In a few years?? Maybe. If anyone goes this offseason its going to be Kulikov as UFA, and perhaps Perreault, Roslovic, Niku via trade.
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Post by Tracker on Aug 22, 2020 20:25:53 GMT -6
The Jets have some good cap space, a core of talent and a window of 2 years before their stars price themselves out of the Jet future. And then there is the expansion draft and a probable flat salary cap during that period as well. It seems to me that if the Jets do not get it done next year, the window for doing so starts to close rapidly therafter.
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Post by grumpy on Aug 25, 2020 9:14:17 GMT -6
The Jets have some good cap space, a core of talent and a window of 2 years before their stars price themselves out of the Jet future. And then there is the expansion draft and a probable flat salary cap during that period as well. It seems to me that if the Jets do not get it done next year, the window for doing so starts to close rapidly therafter. Kulikov has no chance to be a Jet next year. look for Brendan Dillon as a Chiarot replacement 6-5 Carson Soucy as Tyler Myers replacement on the 3rd pairing. Soucy is 26 year old who is a Group-6 UFA. He was Minnesota's clear cut #5 D-man behind a solid top-4 Dumba, Brodin, Suter, Spurgeon. Let the Jet's take advantage of the Wild's developing a large d-man... someone will likely be glad to pick up Stanley after the Jets develop him. Unless there is a trade the Jets have Morrissey , Pionk and Heinola as smaller skilled d-men with Niku as an outside shot. DeMelo is not physically imposing... He is not going to be a player to settle down the other team's nasty. If Demelo wants more than 2 - 2.5 M he might not be a Jet in November. Dillon should be close to Chairots 3.5x3.. even though he made 3.9 on the last year of his 3.2 x 5 If Little retires the Jets will be in a CAP position to compete for Pietroangelo if 8x5 gets its done. Otherwise maybe they could trade Pionk for Paryako give the Blues 2.5 M in cap room and take on Steen's last year of his 5.75 cap hit with the Blues retaining 2 M. That would let the Blues hang on to Pietroangelo. Morrissey Parayko Dillon Poolman Heinola/Soucy/Samberg/Hamonic The Jets would be back to being the hammer rather than the nail. In this fantasy Hamonic signs to 2M x 4
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Post by ekjet72 on Aug 25, 2020 16:41:12 GMT -6
Cap room must be getting large. No buff, no kuli, ? no Little or he's on LITR, possibly no Perreault. Here's hoping your fantasy is real. Boy having Parayko would be like having a Buff /Charoit combo. That would be cool.
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Post by Tracker on Aug 25, 2020 21:28:22 GMT -6
The Jets have some good cap space, a core of talent and a window of 2 years before their stars price themselves out of the Jet future. And then there is the expansion draft and a probable flat salary cap during that period as well. It seems to me that if the Jets do not get it done next year, the window for doing so starts to close rapidly therafter. Kulikov has no chance to be a Jet next year. look for Brendan Dillon as a Chiarot replacement 6-5 Carson Soucy as Tyler Myers replacement on the 3rd pairing. Soucy is 26 year old who is a Group-6 UFA. He was Minnesota's clear cut #5 D-man behind a solid top-4 Dumba, Brodin, Suter, Spurgeon. Let the Jet's take advantage of the Wild's developing a large d-man... someone will likely be glad to pick up Stanley after the Jets develop him. Unless there is a trade the Jets have Morrissey , Pionk and Heinola as smaller skilled d-men with Niku as an outside shot. DeMelo is not physically imposing... He is not going to be a player to settle down the other team's nasty. If Demelo wants more than 2 - 2.5 M he might not be a Jet in November. Dillon should be close to Chairots 3.5x3.. even though he made 3.9 on the last year of his 3.2 x 5 If Little retires the Jets will be in a CAP position to compete for Pietroangelo if 8x5 gets its done. Otherwise maybe they could trade Pionk for Paryako give the Blues 2.5 M in cap room and take on Steen's last year of his 5.75 cap hit with the Blues retaining 2 M. That would let the Blues hang on to Pietroangelo. Morrissey Parayko Dillon Poolman Heinola/Soucy/Samberg/Hamonic The Jets would be back to being the hammer rather than the nail. In this fantasy Hamonic signs to 2M x 4 You seem to have forgotten Beaulieu, and I cannot see Hamonic coming here. Niku has not shown growth and Heinola could easily repace him with a lot more ceiling. It would be nice of Samberg could step right in, but.....And Steen is done.
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Post by grumpy on Aug 25, 2020 22:46:34 GMT -6
Beaulieu has been injured and missing significant games for 5 of his 6 NHL seasons.
Steen is just using cap space. He has a NTC and St L needs to get rid of his salary to make CAP space for Pietrangelo. Winnipeg might be a spot that Steen might go to. To get Parayko without St. L having a cap problem, a pure Hockey trade, would take Pionk , Ehlers and Lowry or some other significant package.
Hamonic is very family oriented . He has significant family ties in Winnipeg.
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Post by Tracker on Aug 26, 2020 8:22:04 GMT -6
Beaulieu has been injured and missing significant games for 5 of his 6 NHL seasons. Steen is just using cap space. He has a NTC and St L needs to get rid of his salary to make CAP space for Pietrangelo. Winnipeg might be a spot that Steen might go to. To get Parayko without St. L having a cap problem, a pure Hockey trade, would take Pionk , Ehlers and Lowry or some other significant package. Hamonic is very family oriented . He has significant family ties in Winnipeg. The trade you propose is very lopsided in favouring St.Louis. Pionk, Ehlers and Lowry are all prime-time players, and as good as Parayko might be, he and Steen are simply not worth it. There have to be better options to bolster the defence. Pionk was a good defenceman and when he gets partnered with a Buff-type player, he will be better yet.
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Post by grumpy on Aug 26, 2020 9:17:50 GMT -6
Point I was trying to make that a regular trade would not work... The Blues desperately need cap space for Pietrangelo.... same as we did when we gave away Armia a 7th pick and a 4th so Montreal would take Mason's 4M cap hit away. The Jet's needed the space to keep Trouba for 1 more year.
The Canadians had cap space and traded that for Armia. The Jets did not get value for Armia... They decided they preferred to lose Armia rather than Trouba.
This time I want the Jets to use the Cap space to get Parayko
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Post by shakinallover on Aug 26, 2020 9:23:51 GMT -6
Why oh why would you trade Lowry?? He's the only physical presence of any of the forwards! Finding someone to complement him and Copp would be a priority. Have a look at contending teams whose 3rd and 4th lines that contribute during the playoffs and you'll be in the ball park. Seuss may be ready for that role.
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Post by Tracker on Aug 26, 2020 9:29:55 GMT -6
Why oh why would you trade Lowry?? He's the only physical presence of any of the forwards! Finding someone to complement him and Copp would be a priority. Have a look at contending teams whose 3rd and 4th lines that contribute during the playoffs and you'll be in the ball park. Seuss may be ready for that role. Agreed. I do not know Seuss's aggressiveness but mass does matter when playing a physical game, and Seuss is only 190 lb. He may work well as an irritant to other teams but at that size, he is not going to intimidate or slam the opposition players very hard.
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Post by grumpy on Aug 26, 2020 20:36:51 GMT -6
Why oh why would you trade Lowry?? He's the only physical presence of any of the forwards! Finding someone to complement him and Copp would be a priority. Have a look at contending teams whose 3rd and 4th lines that contribute during the playoffs and you'll be in the ball park. Seuss may be ready for that role. Not trading Lowry!! I am just saying that in a regular hockey trade it would take a lot to get Paranyko. With the Blues in cap trouble and their best player a UFA the Jets have a chance to get a top notch player not normally available. My suggested trade was Pionk for Parankyo and Steen with St.L keeping 2M of Steen's contact cap. Steen will be 37 and at best a 4th line filler. The Blues free just over 6 M of cap space and have a very useable top-4 defenseman in Pionk and get to keep Pietrangelo. Jets get a HUGE Upgrade in their top-2 Defense that will get the Jets back to a level that they have come to expect. Parayko is 6-6 and 220 and has a cannon of a shot.
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Post by shakinallover on Aug 27, 2020 9:42:12 GMT -6
I view the Jets' stated "guideline" of drafting the best player player available according to their in-house rankings as flawed and requires some adjusting after the first round. More emphasis on physical and mental toughness has to be inserted into their matrix. I know there's a trend to smaller more skilled players but the reality is and is borne out every playoff year is teams with size and that intangible mental toughness are the ones that advance. Figuring out how to measure that will be a challenge.
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Post by Tim on Aug 31, 2020 5:50:46 GMT -6
it will be painful to move Wheeler if and when it is time to do so. He has been the heart and face of this team. Chevy will have some tough decisons to make between seasons. I can't see moving Wheeler period. In a few years?? Maybe. If anyone goes this offseason its going to be Kulikov as UFA, and perhaps Perreault, Roslovic, Niku via trade. Well this is a business and the only way we will ever be a winner is if you start treating this team like one. Wheeler is on the back end of his career and in a year or two that contract is not going to look so attractive, but right now he might be able to bring you back some well deserved talent and I'm pretty sure you could get a bidding war for his services. I wouldn't be upset if they shopped Laine around too, he does not look like a guy who can drive a team and I don't think he ever will.
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