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Post by newjets on Feb 4, 2013 12:03:53 GMT -6
interesting. Ovi could definitely help burmi with his game. would like to see what we may be offering for him. im no Kane fan, but im not sure we trade the kid just yet. if it isnt Kane, who would we trade?.....i would give Toby and a pick I agree with that. Ovi and Burmi would be awesome to see IMO.
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Post by domi on Feb 4, 2013 12:35:50 GMT -6
I really hate to comment on an Eklund rumour. But this is a fun one, so I'll just pretend its hypothetical and ignore the poor source: I figure Kane can become a 35 to 40 goal scorer (maybe even next season), while Ovechkin is currently a 35 to 40 goal scorer and is 5 years older. However Ovechikin has a tremendous short-term upside if he can pick up his game, while Kane will likely never be much better than Ovechkin is right now. Still Kane is younger, so you get an extra 5 years out of him. So if the trade is Ovechkin for Kane only, then there may be some comparison. Ovechkin is the better player, but Kane has "more life left in him". So getting Ovechkin and giving up Kane makes some sense for a team that wants to win big in the next 2 or 3 years. BUT for a team building, it makes a little less sense. Now, if you throw in Scheifele, you are now also giving up what may become a very good second line centre some day. Again, if you have some decent second-line forwards already and you want to really go places in the next 2 or 3 years, this might not be a bad trade. AND if Washington could also package a decent older second-line forward with Ovechkin, then it makes some sense. BUT the problem I have with all this talk is that the Jets are in a 'building stage'. Two or three years from now, that is when I expect these sorts of trades to make more sense. Just for now, Chevy will be focusing on prospects and draft picks. I really doubt he's trying to get a " star player" to clinch the deal on a Stanley Cup team???
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Feb 4, 2013 12:59:38 GMT -6
The issue of spin-off revenue is moot. Doesn't matter how much merch OV sells in Washington since the majority of merch sales are split across the league.
I'd be interested in him but not for Kane. Kane is younger, cheaper and right now is playing better.
Would you give up Wheeler and Little (and prospects/picks) for him? Keeping most of the core together especially our young stars like Kane, Sheif an Burmi (and our D)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 13:05:26 GMT -6
The issue of spin-off revenue is moot. Doesn't matter how much merch OV sells in Washington since the majority of merch sales are split across the league. I'd be interested in him but not for Kane. Kane is younger, cheaper and right now is playing better. Would you give up Wheeler and Little (and prospects/picks) for him? Keeping most of the core together especially our young stars like Kane, Sheif an Burmi (and our D) Wheeler? Are you feeling okay today? Wheels should be our Captain, No way, I like our team and the only person Id trade for OVI is Kane, since he seems to be one foot out the door most of the time anyway.....
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Post by Lions67 on Feb 4, 2013 13:15:21 GMT -6
yeah, no way would i want us to give away wheeler. little, maybe. toby and a pick though sounds about right. but this trade is never gonna happen anyway.
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Post by TheDeuce on Feb 4, 2013 13:51:02 GMT -6
I'd be good with trading Pavelec for Ovi straight up.
I suspect Washington would not be.
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Feb 4, 2013 17:16:06 GMT -6
I would not want to trade Wheeler but Id trade him before Kane.
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Post by bcmike on Feb 4, 2013 18:50:26 GMT -6
I think this rumour goes into the "far fetched" category for me, and that's saying a lot since I usually love buying into a good tin-foil hat style rumour.
But...... I did hear during the Subban rumour that Chevy is looking to make a "big splash" by signing a high profile player. Seems like a common theme coming into this rumour.
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Post by roublerouser on Feb 4, 2013 19:57:23 GMT -6
Ovi's cash just doesn't make sense in any way shape or form. That kind of money completely restricts ability to bring in more or keep valued players. And you just can't expect players to continue or want to take cuts to play with him. Look at Washington now and the revolving door his line mates have been walking through. So I'd pass and go for younger talent like Seguin once his entry contract expires. (Just as an example)
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Post by sting on Feb 4, 2013 20:23:19 GMT -6
Ovi's cash just doesn't make sense in any way shape or form. That kind of money completely restricts ability to bring in more or keep valued players. And you just can't expect players to continue or want to take cuts to play with him. Look at Washington now and the revolving door his line mates have been walking through. So I'd pass and go for younger talent like Seguin once his entry contract expires. (Just as an example) You have no shot at Sequin when his entry level contract is over as he will be a RFA and no chance Boston will let him go for many many years.
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Post by roublerouser on Feb 5, 2013 7:11:21 GMT -6
Ovi's cash just doesn't make sense in any way shape or form. That kind of money completely restricts ability to bring in more or keep valued players. And you just can't expect players to continue or want to take cuts to play with him. Look at Washington now and the revolving door his line mates have been walking through. So I'd pass and go for younger talent like Seguin once his entry contract expires. (Just as an example) You have no shot at Sequin when his entry level contract is over as he will be a RFA and no chance Boston will let him go for many many years. As much of a chance as getting Ovi (for different reasons), and he was just an example. Don't forget the word "TRADE". It's a business, you throw money and picks and who knows.
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Post by driydawg on Feb 6, 2013 16:57:36 GMT -6
Hey guys. I actually read this post and had to make an account just to say how completely crud of an idea, even if it is just a rumour, any trade for Ovi would be. I don't understand how thinking of trading any young high potential players for Ovi (a player whose potential is now on the decay) would be a good idea. Especially for a club thats just trying to grow its roots. The guy's also a complete hot head. He's let his past success (which to be fair was boat loads of success) get to his head. That's probably one of the reasons he's not playing as well as he used to. If you put a hot head like that into our locker room with our boys, it'll destroy chemistry, not create it (like the new club we're trying to do). In my opinion Kane (who shows amazing future potential), Enstrom (who's the leading the nhl in points for defensemen), Little, and Scheif (in the future) are all each on their own better than Ovi right now. If a trade we're to happen for only one of those players, I'd have to see Washington giving a LOT more on the side for me to think it's even close to fair. You take a look at a player like Ovi and you can automatically see that he cares for the name on his back of his jersey a hell of a lot more than the one on the front. For that reason alone this rumour is bogus and it would be a terrible terrible trade. For a team trying to grow it's roots, the guy would just slash out the roots we've already made. In my opinion it's one of the worst trades we could ever make for this team.
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Post by 1979 on Feb 6, 2013 17:11:48 GMT -6
Yeah, I just don't know what we would be willing to give up to get him (that WASH would agree to). Also, for the concern of trading within the division, remember that we're as good as gone after this year anyway, not that I believe this will happen.
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