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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 20:24:34 GMT -6
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 31, 2014 20:27:37 GMT -6
^^^ already posted that:) Check out the Houston Texan owners comments. Let's hope you are right on Pegula. Wolfmanick is right Toronto would be a horrible disaster.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 20:36:58 GMT -6
^^^ already posted that:) Check out the Houston Texan owners comments. Let's hope you are right on Pegula. Wolfmanick is right Toronto would be a horrible disaster. i will, i missed some things...i just took an 18 hour test in two different states haha
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 20:40:53 GMT -6
jones is the biggest hold up in san antonio. However market size isnt as important as people make it out to be in the nfl with National TV deals.
May not be the time for south texas, actually portland is a bigger market tv market with a large contingent of raiders fans....its LA for the raiders though, Davis can putter around all he wants, when he loses the team in a few years because the estate taxes come knocking, its over and the team gets bought by AEG
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 31, 2014 20:41:16 GMT -6
I figured that's what happened. How'd it go?? Hope everything went well for you.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 20:42:15 GMT -6
^^^ already posted that:) Check out the Houston Texan owners comments. Let's hope you are right on Pegula. Wolfmanick is right Toronto would be a horrible disaster. Pegula cant be outbid, he is ballmer level nuts and the whole worth 3billion? BULL he is worth WAYYYYYYY more all he has to do is make a phonecall and another billion comes his way. People dont understand how gigantic natural gas is in the us now and its like the old oil boom. he is just sitting on wealth.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 20:42:58 GMT -6
I figured that's what happened. How'd it go?? Hope everything went well for you. wish i could tell ya haha hard to remember what happens over that time, i wrote things down. thats all i can say haha.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 20:43:53 GMT -6
terry pegula sold land for 1.75 billion to buy a new toy.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 20:45:25 GMT -6
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 31, 2014 20:46:52 GMT -6
jones is the biggest hold up in san antonio. However market size isnt as important as people make it out to be in the nfl with National TV deals. May not be the time for south texas, actually portland is a bigger market tv market with a large contingent of raiders fans....its LA for the raiders though, Davis can putter around all he wants, when he loses the team in a few years because the estate taxes come knocking, its over and the team gets bought by AEG True but NFL still doesn't want a dog market. I'm not sure a market with about 2.3M people that only has 6 fortune 1000 companies and a low per capita income is attractive enough yet from the NFL's perspective. Especially considering all the Cowboy and Texans fans in San Antonio. But it is growing fast and San Antonio is the type of place that would like to make a VERY VERY favorable stadium deal for a team owner(get totally screwed over). Portland will NEVER go for a stadium deal like that. You'd see a MASSIVE hippie uprising if a Portland politician every made that type of deal for NFL or MLB. If Portland gets another team some day it will likely be NHL because they already have a building and an owner who wants it plus factor in the success of the Winter Hawks.
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 31, 2014 20:48:50 GMT -6
I figured that's what happened. How'd it go?? Hope everything went well for you. wish i could tell ya haha hard to remember what happens over that time, i wrote things down. thats all i can say haha. LOL. Well best of luck.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 21:04:53 GMT -6
I just want to put this into perspective.
Pegula made a call and freed up 1.75 billion dollars just by selling a worthless plot of land somewhere in the southeast....that has good access to natural gas mains deep below the earth.
Toronto cant compete with that.
they cant bid too high on the team they need to be able to eat YEARS of losses in the inevitable PR disaster and buffalo bills fan hillbilly uprising in western ny with cuomo and the lt governor bad mouthing them for the next 5 or 6 years and it will be terrible for the nfl.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 21:10:08 GMT -6
Reading toronto commoents on the bills once again shows how completely delusional the people from toronto are. They dont bother to see stadium issues, they dont bother to see why the nfl couldn't care less about canada, they dont bother to see that the groups bid limit was most likley already beat in the initial bids when terry pegula said I want it, Give it to me, and the nfl will not refuse nor will the trust most likely be able to refuse the bid.
funny thing is the material purpose of the trust may be to keep the team in buffalo meaning highest buffalo central bid automatically wins as long as a certain price is met. Pegula won see you in october.
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Post by mikecubs on Jul 31, 2014 21:13:36 GMT -6
I think Chuck Schumer was going to get involved too if the Bills got moved. You forgot to mention too that Toronto won't be receiving public help either for a new stadium. Your right, Bills fans will boycott if Bon Jovi is the owner. I read the Bills message board that last few days. They will have a crowd of about 0 for the next 6 years. EVERYONE is boycotting if Bon Jovi is owner. He can talk about all keeping the Bills in NY all he wants, NOBODY believes him.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Jul 31, 2014 21:16:39 GMT -6
its because bon jovi himself hasnt come out and said it, he leaks it through jawarski and through "sources say" to try and convince the trust he isnt lying but the trustee has a fiduciary duty and a legal duty to follow its purpose and to make decisions for the trust...no way they believe him. I havent seen the trust, but what i have seen is a man like ralph wilson lock the bills into a longterm lease and willingly sign a HUGE liquidated damages fee agreement...Now he should have sold the team while he was alive but old men get stubborn, i have no doubt he figured he can make an iron clad lease and a strong trust that will assure the nfl doesnt screw up selling to toronto.
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