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Post by dkehler on Oct 8, 2011 12:22:07 GMT -6
I just watched the documentary a few minutes ago and I think his comments are being a little bit blown out of proportion here. He most definitely is wrong when he implies that we could have kept the team if only more people had bought tickets and he has come across at times in other interviews as being a little bit bitter that people didn't love the Moose as much as he did, but aside from the tickets thing, this interview was fine.
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Post by Byro on Oct 8, 2011 12:23:43 GMT -6
Heisinger did not edit the film or choose the clips. That said, I have been very unimpressed by almost everything he has said since the ROTJ became a reality. It's almost as if he misses being the top guy on the Moose and is sad the NHL has returned. Some of his comments come across as almost bitter. If he's sending these negative vibes, I hope he finds a different job. This is one of the biggest moments in the history of the city and... #angryfire# i know, im not a fan of this guy at all, such a buzz kill |
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Post by Byro on Oct 8, 2011 12:25:12 GMT -6
There is a torrent for The Fueled By Passion documentary on www.nhltorrents.co.uk/ if anybody has an account there |
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Post by Lions67 on Oct 8, 2011 16:37:54 GMT -6
you guys turn on your own awfully fast dont you?
all Zinger did was speak the truth and yes, he was bitter. he was bitter at ALL OF US. we didnt fill that building, crappy sightlines or not.
granted a full building would have done squat and i wish he would have touched upon that part of the equation. but to say he would rather have the Moose over the Jets is bogus. he lived and died with the Jets.
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Post by jimmyohhhh on Oct 8, 2011 16:51:17 GMT -6
I have my own theories on the lost 15 years.
But there now is a Jets team, in a decent building, and sold out for a long time.
Not bitter at anybody.
I know the old arena was lousy, the concessions sucked, the revenues for the team were just not there.
Winnipegpers LOVED the old Jets.
They deserved a lot better from a lot of the leaders of the day.
Alaas there was no man of vision and means at the helm in 1995.
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Post by Hannu Smail on Oct 8, 2011 18:45:26 GMT -6
you guys turn on your own awfully fast dont you? all Zinger did was speak the truth and yes, he was bitter. he was bitter at ALL OF US. we didnt fill that building, crappy sightlines or not. granted a full building would have done squat and i wish he would have touched upon that part of the equation. but to say he would rather have the Moose over the Jets is bogus. he lived and died with the Jets. It's not turning on him, at least not for me. His is a great personal success story and I hope he writes another chapter with the Jets. But he did not speak the truth there in pointing the fingers at attendance as the reason for losing the franchise. A full house would certainly have helped but it would have been window dressing; the real issues of the crappy Cdn$, no prospect of a building, and no mega pockets willing to keep losing money in the existing climate wouldn't have been washed away by an extra 2,000 tickets sold per game. I know Heisinger loves the Jets but for many of us who just want to look forward, it's disheartening to always hear him lamenting the past.... be it bitterness over losing the team 15 years ago (and his perceived reasons why it happened) or losing the Moose. All that said - Go Zinger and Go Jets. |
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Post by jimmyohhhh on Oct 8, 2011 18:51:02 GMT -6
I looked up the attendance stats and regretfully... the numbers were not very good.
There are other factors that hurt the team, but Zinger is not wrong about empty seats.
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Post by TheDeuce on Oct 9, 2011 0:33:57 GMT -6
I looked up the attendance stats and regretfully... the numbers were not very good. There are other factors that hurt the team, but Zinger is not wrong about empty seats. Just for fun, look up those numbers again and compare them to league averages for those years. You might be surprised. m. |
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Post by phreload on Oct 9, 2011 2:14:22 GMT -6
From what I have seen, Zinger is always emotional. It sounds like he wears his heart on his sleeve and can't or won't sugar coat what he thinks. Now as a guy who had nothing and worked like a dog to make it with the Jets 1.0 don't you think he has a right to say that the fans weren't there? Fact is Winnipeg didn't sell out the arena very often, so can you blame him for pointing the finger at us? I say he's earned that right. Let's just make sure we never leave a seat open this time around! If he's still negative after that I hold him down for y'all!
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Oct 9, 2011 2:32:17 GMT -6
I looked up the attendance stats and regretfully... the numbers were not very good. There are other factors that hurt the team, but Zinger is not wrong about empty seats. the figures are well known...let's just say 13,000 or over 85% capacity...you have to keep 2 other points in mind: 1) check the league's average attendance back in the day (it was a lot lower than now and many Canadian teams did not sell out) and 2) attendance figures have been greatly inflated in recent years (especially for the sunbelt teams). 13K was really 13K at the Winnipeg Arena. The attendance was never the core reason the Jets left. And for Heisinger to bring that up in the context of that documentary is just sad. |
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Post by phreload on Oct 9, 2011 7:37:36 GMT -6
I looked up the attendance stats and regretfully... the numbers were not very good. There are other factors that hurt the team, but Zinger is not wrong about empty seats. the figures are well known...let's just say 13,000 or over 85% capacity...you have to keep 2 other points in mind: 1) check the league's average attendance back in the day (it was a lot lower than now and many Canadian teams did not sell out) and 2) attendance figures have been greatly inflated in recent years (especially for the sunbelt teams). 13K was really 13K at the Winnipeg Arena. The attendance was never the core reason the Jets left. And for Heisinger to bring that up in the context of that documentary is just sad. Compare us to other cities during that time and you can make a case that Winnipeg was no different than other cities. BUT if there isn't a full house to every Jets 2.0 game we will possibly lose them again! So I will still give Zinger his point. What I will say is there is no way he can complain now that we are sitting pretty and everything is perfect and he is a VP no less. |
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