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Post by sting on Oct 25, 2011 13:32:09 GMT -6
Read Gord Sinclair's column today and found it to be more a
promo for their Jets forum than about people helping with
tickets for kids.
They got their plug in and it does not mention anything about
people buying t-shirts and going to events to help raise money.
Not sure their intention was to help kids or promote DF's site
and DF and their forum.
It sure made it sound like DF paid for 100% of the tickets.
I think it would have been nice to at least say a little thanks
to all the people who paid for shirts etc. to help raise money.
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Post by selanne405 on Oct 25, 2011 14:51:47 GMT -6
I'm a big brother (not biological a volunteer) and my little brother along with dozens of little's ive met at the big brothers big sisters agency would give anything for a chance to see a jets game. My dad gave me one of his 4 tickets so that I can take mine but honestly DF deserves lots of respect for setting up Jake's tickets.
There were basically 3 different fund raisers, the 4play event, selling the left over shirts and the donation link on jetsowner. So if you went to the event, bought a shirt, or made a donation good for you but do you really need a thank you in the paper? I mean DF is the guy who set up jetsowner and after our dream of the ROTJ finally came true his first instinct was to set up a charity to give kids a chance to see the jets when they wouldnt otherwise.
Cmon.
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 25, 2011 14:53:14 GMT -6
I read that too, and was a little bit disturbed by the article; especially the last line where he says "If I can buy tickets myself and donate them, then corporations should too" ... it was my understanding that proceeds from events such as the Jetsowner party (4play) and T-Shirt sales as well as donations from the old JetsOwner website were to be used for Jake's tickets. Would have thought it would have read more like "Darren Ford raised money for Jake's Tickets" ... not "Darren Ford donated Jake's Tickets" I understand what you mean as I kind of thought the same thing as you, but: 1) Media stories often misrepresent what people truly meant to say. And 2) I'm not sure how it all ended up panning out, but I remember talking to Darren at the end of the night at 4Play back in early June and he sounded like the night had not gone too well in terms of raising much money (he was even worried about a loss) so I can't say that I know if it's even true that he donated the tickets or raised money for them. |
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Post by sting on Oct 25, 2011 15:55:07 GMT -6
I'm a big brother (not biological a volunteer) and my little brother along with dozens of little's ive met at the big brothers big sisters agency would give anything for a chance to see a jets game. My dad gave me one of his 4 tickets so that I can take mine but honestly DF deserves lots of respect for setting up Jake's tickets. There were basically 3 different fund raisers, the 4play event, selling the left over shirts and the donation link on jetsowner. So if you went to the event, bought a shirt, or made a donation good for you but do you really need a thank you in the paper? I mean DF is the guy who set up jetsowner and after our dream of the ROTJ finally came true his first instinct was to set up a charity to give kids a chance to see the jets when they wouldnt otherwise. Cmon. It's not a thank you is needed. The article makes it sound like no one wanted to help. The article should have been written that a guy came up with a great idea and people have supported it and they could use more help with support through donations etc. No need to promote the Free Press forum or make it sound like no one wanted to help. It came across more as self-promotion with the forum mention and naming after his son. It may not be Darren's fault at all. It could be how Sinclair wrote it. To me it sounded like Darren paid entire thing and no one wanted to support it. I drove across the city to get shirts that I will never wear just to help out. |
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Post by JimmyMann on Oct 25, 2011 16:32:31 GMT -6
The media is known to mis-represent stories at times. I do hope that the article written by Mr. Sinclair is slightly amended and re-printed. some key facts have certainly been left out. Many people attended events and purchased t-shirts. Others made cash donations through paypal to assist in Jake' tickets becoming a reality. I hope that money made it to the right place. The cause is fantastic but the article is a little off base. I hope that all the cash donations have assisted these children and their parent/guardians attend NHL hockey.
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Post by jval07 on Oct 25, 2011 16:35:17 GMT -6
I went to the event at 4 play. I have to admit, I went there more to party because the Jets were coming back than the charity. I did spend a lot of money that night though and even bought a few plaques from upstairs (more to get a pic with the chick than cuz I wanted them). I think he thanked everybody for coming out, and besides going around thanking everybody, to me that's all he needed to do.
What is bothering me, and I'm sure I'm gonna take some heat for this, is how much media time this guy is getting. I've seen him everywhere! Newspaper articles, tv stories, blog articles, forum articles, Winnipeg Jets documentaries. I see his mug shot more than Chipman or Thompson. I'm starting to believe it was him who brought the team back not True North.
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 25, 2011 16:50:54 GMT -6
Well, I say this is all due respect to Darren Ford and Jake's Tickets. It bothers me to write this, because I know my thoughts won't properly translate into the written word. I am certainly not against Jake's Tickets, in fact I feel it is a fantastic idea. Where I am slightly cynical are the motives behind the charity. Darren Ford has seemingly been trying to tie his own name and Wine/Spirit Company onto anything Winnipeg Jets since the announcement. From the "official Jetsowner party" complete with VIP area, Frexxinet (sic) sponsors, and (of course) a cover charge, to his blog post about handing out free champagne (sponsored by Frexxinet, which I assume he's the sole distributer in MB) at Moxies prior to the home openner, to the Free Press Jet Stream site, featuring Darren Ford. Again, is this about tickets for the underprivilaged, or this about further branding the name Darren Ford? I'm in the marketing business, so I get what he's trying to do ... but some of it is coming accross as a little less than sincere. Many people give away their tickets annonymously be it the Bombers or Jets. They don't get stories printed in the paper nor do they create blog posts announcing to the world their good deeds. The Free Press has a wonderful section called "Random Acts of Kindness". This is where people submit a story of a random act of kindness THAT HAPPENED TO THEM ... nobody submits a random act of kindness they DID FOR SOMEONE ELSE ... if/when you brag about your good deeds, it always comes accross a little less sincere ... Again, I have no idea how much money was raised for Jake's Tickets, I have no idea the motives behind it, but the amount of publicity it's been getting in both the blogosphere / message boards, and now the Free Press is getting a little overboard. Can you imagine if everyone that donated money to any charity would have a Gord Sinclair story written about them? I will say this with 100% certainty: many companies (including mine) have purchased Jets Season tickets and are using them exclusively to give them away to employees who would have otherwise not been able to afford to attend a game. Winnipeggers are truly giving people, and most aren't looking for publicity when "doing the right thing". As I said... when I read the story I had kind of the same thought in the back of my mind. However, I'm basically just not passing judgement based on the story, because we don't know if these are Darren's words (I gave tickets away) or Sinclairs words, when the message Darren was really trying to spread may have simply been "the charity is giving tickets away". |
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Post by selanne405 on Oct 25, 2011 18:03:04 GMT -6
Come on guys, really
jval07, I guess thats your perception, but when I was at the home opener I saw Chipman and Thomson at the puck drop, not DF. Also keep in mind for like 8 years DF was the grass roots guy for the ROTJ, whenever news broke the media would call him up. So obviously your gonna see his name and face occasionally since he turned out to be right and all the folks who called him a nut were wrong.
Jim, every business (especially massive corperations) do goodwill type stuff to in hopes of ultimately upping their bottom line. I have never shopped in DFs store myself but I know its not a particularly huge thing. I have yet to see 1 company buy 2 season tickets and donate them, I havent seen his companies name in any Jakes Tickets media yet so unless I do I have to disagree with you on that point.
Yeah maybe the press mislead this whole thing but honestly I really dont think its significant to get bent outta shape over
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Post by JimmyMann on Oct 25, 2011 18:24:38 GMT -6
Come on guys, really jval07, I guess thats your perception, but when I was at the home opener I saw Chipman and Thomson at the puck drop, not DF. Also keep in mind for like 8 years DF was the grass roots guy for the ROTJ, whenever news broke the media would call him up. So obviously your gonna see his name and face occasionally since he turned out to be right and all the folks who called him a nut were wrong. Jim, every business (especially massive corperations) do goodwill type stuff to in hopes of ultimately upping their bottom line. I have never shopped in DFs store myself but I know its not a particularly huge thing. I have yet to see 1 company buy 2 season tickets and donate them, I havent seen his companies name in any Jakes Tickets media yet so unless I do I have to disagree with you on that point. Yeah maybe the press mislead this whole thing but honestly I really dont think its significant to get bent outta shape over From the Freep DF "So I purchased four season tickets and decided to give two full season tickets to kids that would normally not be able to go"The Freep might have wanted to print that some of the money used to buy the tickets was solicited through cash donations. Great cause, the story is just missing some of the facts. |
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Oct 26, 2011 17:16:18 GMT -6
A) that's the Freep for you
B) That's Sinclair for you.
C) That's DF for you (ok, maybe not really but near the end of the ROTJ he became more ego-centric and I respect the heck out of him but it's true).
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Post by selanne405 on Oct 26, 2011 19:05:43 GMT -6
A) that's the Freep for you B) That's Sinclair for you. C) That's DF for you (ok, maybe not really but near the end of the ROTJ he became more ego-centric and I respect the heck out of him but it's true). I disagree with the ego centric bit but agree with the rest. Let us just agree to disagree and consider the matter done. I'm gonna go eat some pancakes...for supper  |
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Post by USApegger on Oct 26, 2011 20:38:37 GMT -6
The online version of the story had Darren making a comment that the money came from donations and himself. I would consider that a correction to the original Sinclair piece
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Post by hacky666 on Oct 26, 2011 20:49:12 GMT -6
The online version of the story had Darren making a comment that the money came from donations and himself. I would consider that a correction to the original Sinclair piece  www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/columnists/he-fulfils-dreams-of-young-jets-fans-132517743.htmlI have no dog in this hunt but from what I've read in the article, it's basically telling me that he himself (without any outside help) purchased the tickets for the charity. I don't see anything whatsoever about the folks at the ROTJ board making donations or for that matter money coming from anywhere else; which would lead the reader to believe that it was all out of his own pocket. |
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Post by USApegger on Oct 27, 2011 6:33:13 GMT -6
sorry, I meant in the comment section after the article, he was correcting Sinclair
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Post by hacky666 on Oct 27, 2011 6:55:36 GMT -6
sorry, I meant in the comment section after the article, he was correcting Sinclair Unfortunately, there are no comments and it would appear that there never will be any. I find it strange that a correction or edit hasn't been published yet, I mean he does work for them after all. |
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