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Post by bigchris on Oct 25, 2011 22:37:14 GMT -6
winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111025/wpg_hockey_hazing_111025/20111025/?hub=WinnipegHome18 players and coaches were suspended for various lengths of time, (the captains and coaches getting the harshest suspensions of 3-5 games,) and the club was fined $5,000 for a hazing incident. According to TSN 1290 a 15 year old player quit resulting in the MJHL investigation and the current RCMP investigation reported in the above article. If you ask me hazing should be punishable by lifetime ban from said league. (Then again we are talking about a league that had Graham James around for years on end.) Ritual hazing is no better than the prison rape scenarios in Oz and frankly it needs to be stamped out at all costs. The idea that it "brings players together" is nothing but a myth and a myth that needs to be drummed from the sport.
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Post by selanne405 on Oct 26, 2011 19:02:59 GMT -6
On my lacrosse team we make rookies fill up the water bottles, pick up the loose balls after warm up/practice and players who need their slash guards taped up get a rookie to do it. I have a friend who played for the Riels in the MMJHL and they go out for a big team dinner and make the rookies dress like women.
I wouldnt wanna do the cross dressing but I think sometimes little hazing type things like what my team does is ok. Something like the Neepawa incident is just effed up. Whats really sad is that the family has been forced to apologize for going public over this. This hazing ritual went way too far like can you imagine being forced to do that? I felt lame having to tape a player's pads for him, imagine having to do what those Native's players did.
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Post by lukemiguez on Oct 26, 2011 23:41:24 GMT -6
winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111025/wpg_hockey_hazing_111025/20111025/?hub=WinnipegHome18 players and coaches were suspended for various lengths of time, (the captains and coaches getting the harshest suspensions of 3-5 games,) and the club was fined $5,000 for a hazing incident. According to TSN 1290 a 15 year old player quit resulting in the MJHL investigation and the current RCMP investigation reported in the above article. If you ask me hazing should be punishable by lifetime ban from said league. (Then again we are talking about a league that had Graham James around for years on end.) Ritual hazing is no better than the prison rape scenarios in Oz and frankly it needs to be stamped out at all costs. The idea that it "brings players together" is nothing but a myth and a myth that needs to be drummed from the sport. I think the comparison to prison rape scenarios is heavy, but agreed that hazing needs to be stamped out. The worst part about this kind of crap is how the community tacetly approves of it either by ignoring it or by socially ostricizing individuals who decide to refuse hazing rituals. It's pathetic. The family demeaned the Neepawa community by apparently being unwilling to have their son go through a hazing ritual with the local junior hockey team; evidently a social crime there. Not surprised though, this sort of crap takes place on a regular basis, and the victims are victimized yet again by deciding to confront the community over the matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 23:46:06 GMT -6
Not all hazing is a bad thing. Sometimes it brings a team closer together. There are limits though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 0:37:33 GMT -6
think of it this way...
A group of adults, most between the ages of 18-20, sexually harrassed and abused 15 year olds; b/c call it what you will, that is the perspective the RCMP are now investigating.
Furthermore, the 15yr olds were in the care of their much older coaches & assistant coaches who were aware of this abuse.
Criminal charges may be laid. This is a serious matter, and its time has long passed.
I'm involved w/ a very successful Major Junior Hockey Club here in Winnipeg, and this would NEVER be tolerated. I actually know of players that have been scarred for life, both physically & emotionally, b/c of what they had to endure.
It sickens me to think that this archaic ritual is still carried on today as some sort of means of bonding or whatever -- its absolutely ludicrous and I really hope that the individuals involved are made an example of and punished to the highest degree of the law.
No 15yr old should have to undergo that abuse.
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Post by jval07 on Oct 27, 2011 10:00:48 GMT -6
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Post by selanne405 on Oct 27, 2011 10:49:39 GMT -6
It said in the free press the kids had to do push ups while their balls dipped in and out of icey waters.
This sure looks good for this organization, they make the freaking kid apologize for this. They told him that he handeled it wrong. This is a freaking joke.
There is another article in the free press and a bunch of people in neepawa are acting like the natives organization are the real victim because they think crap like that happens everywhere. Yes hazing probably happens to some extent on most junior teams but not at that level.
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Post by pank on Oct 27, 2011 19:32:44 GMT -6
You can have "hazing" or initiation that is in good taste-but this isn't something that should be happening.
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Post by lukemiguez on Oct 28, 2011 23:02:34 GMT -6
The CIA would find what you describe as tame, to be honest. |
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Post by Dcmac on Oct 29, 2011 1:59:41 GMT -6
Who gets punished in the end? The kid who reported this. How disgusting and how in the world is this team still allowed to play this season? It makes me want to take in a Saints or Blues game just to boo the living hell out of that team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 19:25:48 GMT -6
winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111029/wpg_neepawa_111029/20111029/?hub=WinnipegHomeNeepawa Natives trade three of its playersUpdated: Sat Oct. 29 2011 18:59:20 According to the Manitoba Junior Hockey League's website, players from the Neepawa Natives are being traded. 19-year-old John Lawrence is moving to the Humboldt Broncos in the Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League. The Dauphin Kings will be getting 20-year-old defenseman Tyler Gaudry and 19-year-old forward Richard Olson. Gaudry and Olson were two of the Natives that were suspended for three games each because of the hazing of a 15-year-old teammate, who spoke out about the incident earlier this month.
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Post by Snoopy on Nov 11, 2011 21:59:43 GMT -6
I follow the MJHL alot. I have season tickets for a team. When I saw in the newpapers on what happen I wasn't shock one bit. There is a limit. What the players made the kid isn't right. Glad to see the coaches step down or get fired. there is no need of hazing in hockey.
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Tying a water bottle container to a person's genitals? That's beyond hazing... that's torture. I think even the CIA would cringe at this.
