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Post by maniaaron on Aug 9, 2011 23:11:47 GMT -6
^ that is how I remember it. a city of almost 800,000 folks and no freeways or true express ways. the rush hours were brutal.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Aug 9, 2011 23:20:56 GMT -6
I've lived in Winnipeg for all 32 years of my life, except for the partial 5 years I spent in North Dakota going to University. The one complaint I have over and over again is the lack of a freeway system. If you're not from Winnipeg, good luck navigating. There's no direct route anywhere and our signage to direct you places is invisible. Our city is one traffic light after another. Any expressway our city designed was immediately destroyed by endless traffic lights. We don't believe in frontage roads either so be ready to hammer the breaks as people decide last second they want to pull into the Tim Horton's on their right. My biggest issue with this is depending on where you're headed, you may have to drive through some of the crap neighborhoods which should never have to happen. I like Canadian cities in general more than American ones (in general) precisely due to the fact that we don't have as many freeways. Freeways, distant suburbs, lack of urbanization and big box stores all relying upon the automobile is not my idea of a good metropolis. I want density. This is a long conversation but I would say I prefer European model of development. However, all those freeways in the USA has led to a country that is the most dependent on the automobile and imported oil in the world. It also leads to a less interesting, in my view, pattern of urban development. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 23:22:10 GMT -6
I've often thought of starting my own extreme sports business. All I would do is hand you a pair of runners and get you to run from Dufferin to Burrows. It would cost 80 bucks and if you come back alive you get a 50% discount on the Magnus to Pritchard run. If you feel risky, and really want some extreme adrenaline you could try driving taxi or delivering pizza in the North end. Basically, if you value your life..... stay out of the North end. They'll kill you over a case of beer! Cheers! The North End is not as bad as people make it out to be. Aside from a few seedy streets, it's not bad. Many people are either working class, Aboriginals, or Immigrants. If you mind your own business you should be fine. I wouldn't go out for a walk at 2:00AM in some of the seedier parts of the North End, but you can say the same thing about many other areas of Winnipeg. IMO, Central is much worse. |
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Post by quackbeth on Aug 10, 2011 5:47:38 GMT -6
Well, it sounds like a really cool place!  It's a shame you don't have that sort of a district-setup, though...that's probably the one thing I really do love about the Greater Los Angeles Area-- You park your car in an underground garage, get out, and you have BLOCKS of shops selling just about everything, with restaurants servinv just about anything, so you can literally just walk along the streets in a group for a couple of hours and you're almost guaranteed to find somwhere you really want to get a drink in or someplace you want to go inside and see what's what or some shop that's selling something you just HAVE to see (and maybe buy.)  That's what my friends and I generally do, drive down to LA--about an hour and a half from where I live--and you walk around the shopping district for a couple of hours until it coems time to hit the theatre district for a play, and the theatre district's great, all those huge theatres and there's usually some good show playing... But go any FURTHER and you're dead, as right next to the theatre district is skid row (talk about your striking parallels!) |
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Post by quackbeth on Aug 10, 2011 6:07:50 GMT -6
I've lived in Winnipeg for all 32 years of my life, except for the partial 5 years I spent in North Dakota going to University. The one complaint I have over and over again is the lack of a freeway system. If you're not from Winnipeg, good luck navigating. There's no direct route anywhere and our signage to direct you places is invisible. Our city is one traffic light after another. Any expressway our city designed was immediately destroyed by endless traffic lights. We don't believe in frontage roads either so be ready to hammer the breaks as people decide last second they want to pull into the Tim Horton's on their right. My biggest issue with this is depending on where you're headed, you may have to drive through some of the crap neighborhoods which should never have to happen. I like Canadian cities in general more than American ones (in general) precisely due to the fact that we don't have as many freeways. Freeways, distant suburbs, lack of urbanization and big box stores all relying upon the automobile is not my idea of a good metropolis. I want density. This is a long conversation but I would say I prefer European model of development. However, all those freeways in the USA has led to a country that is the most dependent on the automobile and imported oil in the world. It also leads to a less interesting, in my view, pattern of urban development. Hence the reason I don't drive. I walk everywhere, or take the bus--and I hope you Winnipeggers have a better public transit system than LA or Anaheim, I swear Southern California has the wrost public transit system in America at least, maybe Canada, too...they expect everyone but the poorest schmucks to drive, so you get very few busses, most aren't that great, and they're usually far off schedule and not at all efficient--unless it's a trip down to Los Angeles or Anaheim themselves, then I hitch a ride with a friend. But yeah, LA is very formulaic, I guess...it's great to have things in Districts, but that also means that places tend to be clumped together, and so you get a lot of choices, and all in the same place, but that means walking or driving from one district to the next all the time, without really just sort of plotting your won path as much and taking in the quirks of the city. Dodger Stadium is BEAUTIFUL though...I LOVE BASEBALL (I actually love the New York Mets, so I always root against the Dodgers, hate the team, but the stadium is beautifulm especially of you go for a 5-7:10pm start, because then you get to see the sun set over the Chavez Ravine and the red-pink sky tinges the field and bathes everything and makes it glow like only a Southern California sunset can...so if you like baseball, go to Dodger Stadium, it's beautiful, just root against the Dodgers!) But be careful who you sit next to if you're going to root for the other team...a poor San Francisco Giants fan was attacked Opening Day this year by some Dodger thugs, and he now has brain damage...  What's the MTS Centre like? I've never actually ahd the pleasure of going to a hockey rink, let alone an NHL game (the family hates hockey...the NFL and NBA get all the airtime downstairs, I just sit in my room, work towards my English AA, and watch the NHL and MLB...the only time the NHL got any airtime with the family was the two instances the Ducks made the Stanley Cup Finals...and for some perverse reason, I can remember so VIVIDLY the 2003 loss to the Devils--Giguere vs. Brodeur, Petr Sykora, Paul Kayia and "Off the floor and on the scoreboard!" and that great comeback...that heartbreaker of a loss...and yet I remember so little from the 2007 Stanlet Cup WIN! I remember Getzlaf, Perry, and Selanne playing well, making some wicked shots, Pronger and the Niedermeyers blasting the people in front of them, and the last seconds and the win and Selanne with the Cup...but that's about it. WHY??? WHY do I remember the loss so vividly and not the win?!) :/ A friend and I were planning to go and see a Ducks/Kings game together and root on our Ducks at either Honda or Staples Center, but it fell through. My hockey experience has all been via TV and, when I was younger, radio (falling asleep to "and a SAVE by Hebert" and, later, "Giguere!") But I hardly miss a game! So what's it like in person? |
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Post by GreatCanadian on Aug 10, 2011 7:39:31 GMT -6
I swear Southern California has the wrost public transit system in America at least, maybe Canada, too...they expect everyone but the poorest schmucks to drive, so you get very few busses, most aren't that great, and they're usually far off schedule and not at all efficient That sounds like my hometown too. Moncton, New Brunswick (a small east-coast city of 140,000 a few hours north of the Maine border). I always thought we had the worst transit system ever, for the same exact reason. Add endlessly-long transit runs that take way too long to come back around and I agree 100% Unfortunately I have never been to California or Manitoba so I can't relate directly to anyone here  |
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Post by dkehler on Aug 10, 2011 10:19:23 GMT -6
I like Canadian cities in general more than American ones (in general) precisely due to the fact that we don't have as many freeways. Freeways, distant suburbs, lack of urbanization and big box stores all relying upon the automobile is not my idea of a good metropolis. I want density. This is a long conversation but I would say I prefer European model of development. However, all those freeways in the USA has led to a country that is the most dependent on the automobile and imported oil in the world. It also leads to a less interesting, in my view, pattern of urban development. Hence the reason I don't drive. I walk everywhere, or take the bus--and I hope you Winnipeggers have a better public transit system than LA or Anaheim, I swear Southern California has the wrost public transit system in America at least, maybe Canada, too...they expect everyone but the poorest schmucks to drive, so you get very few busses, most aren't that great, and they're usually far off schedule and not at all efficient--unless it's a trip down to Los Angeles or Anaheim themselves, then I hitch a ride with a friend. But yeah, LA is very formulaic, I guess...it's great to have things in Districts, but that also means that places tend to be clumped together, and so you get a lot of choices, and all in the same place, but that means walking or driving from one district to the next all the time, without really just sort of plotting your won path as much and taking in the quirks of the city. Dodger Stadium is BEAUTIFUL though...I LOVE BASEBALL (I actually love the New York Mets, so I always root against the Dodgers, hate the team, but the stadium is beautifulm especially of you go for a 5-7:10pm start, because then you get to see the sun set over the Chavez Ravine and the red-pink sky tinges the field and bathes everything and makes it glow like only a Southern California sunset can...so if you like baseball, go to Dodger Stadium, it's beautiful, just root against the Dodgers!) But be careful who you sit next to if you're going to root for the other team...a poor San Francisco Giants fan was attacked Opening Day this year by some Dodger thugs, and he now has brain damage... What's the MTS Centre like? I've never actually ahd the pleasure of going to a hockey rink, let alone an NHL game (the family hates hockey...the NFL and NBA get all the airtime downstairs, I just sit in my room, work towards my English AA, and watch the NHL and MLB...the only time the NHL got any airtime with the family was the two instances the Ducks made the Stanley Cup Finals...and for some perverse reason, I can remember so VIVIDLY the 2003 loss to the Devils--Giguere vs. Brodeur, Petr Sykora, Paul Kayia and "Off the floor and on the scoreboard!" and that great comeback...that heartbreaker of a loss...and yet I remember so little from the 2007 Stanlet Cup WIN! I remember Getzlaf, Perry, and Selanne playing well, making some wicked shots, Pronger and the Niedermeyers blasting the people in front of them, and the last seconds and the win and Selanne with the Cup...but that's about it. WHY??? WHY do I remember the loss so vividly and not the win?!) :/ A friend and I were planning to go and see a Ducks/Kings game together and root on our Ducks at either Honda or Staples Center, but it fell through. My hockey experience has all been via TV and, when I was younger, radio (falling asleep to "and a SAVE by Hebert" and, later, "Giguere!") But I hardly miss a game! So what's it like in person? Hockey is AMAZING live. I always find that the players look much bigger when you are actually at the rink than they do on TV. Dude, you have to find a way to see a game live. |
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Post by Douggy-D on Aug 10, 2011 11:25:14 GMT -6
Hockey is so vivid live. It's WAY better than it is on TV. I live in New Jersey and am a huge Devils fan and usually see 2-3 games a year, and when I do go it's great. Although I'll try to make it to 1 game a month this year.
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Post by jval07 on Aug 10, 2011 11:55:44 GMT -6
I love the freeway system, and would love to live in an actual suburb. I think this system has made the downtown areas of cities so much better to visit. Because it's so seperated from the residential areas it's so much more diverse with more of a desire to get to. I love going to Minneapolis and the Nicollet Mall area during the day and the bar district around the Target Center at night. So many people always walking around. Same with Chicago.
I spent a weekend in Buffalo for a Bills/Colts game. Small city by city standards, and quite unattractive. But it had a freeway system and at night, the Chippewa Bar District downtown was unreal.
But I also love driving my car, though I enjoyed the L-Train in Chicago.
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Post by razorsedge on Aug 10, 2011 17:07:08 GMT -6
Winnipeg is like a bunch of small towns grouped together. Every area of the city has it's shopping mall, movie theater, restaurants and pool hall. So growing up, myself and most people never left their area of the city unless it's for work or a special event. I run into fellow ex-peggers like myself and it's always the same question, "what area of the city are you from".
I love running into an ex-pegger from north kildonan or transcona. They always say the same thing when I say I grew up in Fort Garry. "Oh we never travel down there" or "we didn't mingle with people from Fort Garry". Lol
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Post by jval07 on Aug 10, 2011 18:06:13 GMT -6
Winnipeg is like a bunch of small towns grouped together. Every area of the city has it's shopping mall, movie theater, restaurants and pool hall. So growing up, myself and most people never left their area of the city unless it's for work or a special event. I run into fellow ex-peggers like myself and it's always the same question, "what area of the city are you from". I love running into an ex-pegger from north kildonan or transcona. They always say the same thing when I say I grew up in Fort Garry. "Oh we never travel down there" or "we didn't mingle with people from Fort Garry". Lol Cuz it's impossible to get to those areas in Winnipeg withouth a freeway system haha. Unless you wanna google map it first to determine which intersections you need to turn at. I coach high school hockey in Transcona and it is ridiculous traveling across the city at 3:00 to get to an arena anywhere west of the river. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 21:33:59 GMT -6
Winnipeg is like a bunch of small towns grouped together. Every area of the city has it's shopping mall, movie theater, restaurants and pool hall. So growing up, myself and most people never left their area of the city unless it's for work or a special event. I run into fellow ex-peggers like myself and it's always the same question, "what area of the city are you from". I love running into an ex-pegger from north kildonan or transcona. They always say the same thing when I say I grew up in Fort Garry. "Oh we never travel down there" or "we didn't mingle with people from Fort Garry". Lol The only area I find that happens in is Transcona. Personally I think Edmonton is far more spread out, with at least 1/3 of the CMA living outside the city limits. You have the City of Edmonton (775,000), St. Albert (65,000) to the NW, Sherwood Park (75,000) to the East, Leduc (22,000) to the south), Beaumont (12,000) to the SE, Devon (7500) to the SW, Stony Plain (17,500) and Spruce Grove (25,000) to the West, and Fort Saskatchewan (17,500) to the NE. |
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Post by jetsfan85 on Aug 11, 2011 18:22:51 GMT -6
Im 26 and have always lived in Winnipeg. I have travelled to some other bigger cities in Canada like Edmonton which is almost identical to Winnipeg and I have been to Calgary. In the USA I have been to St Louis, Memphis, Chicago, Minneapolis and Celeveland.. I could never live anywhere else.. well I could but I have no reason to leave. Winnipeg has everything you could ever need and it is getting bigger.. It could use a theme park and water park thats a large scale size but hey in 50 years we might have one lol. Transit sucks big time, we need light rail in my opinion but half the city disagrees.. the politics anyways. busses are horrible unless you live downtown ..which i don't. I drive everywhere basically. We do have GREAT cultural events like folklorama which is going on right now and is the biggest of its kind in the world by far. WE have amazing summers and lots of nice beaches with in an hour drive of the city.. Ones even someone from LA would be impressed with I think. I have never been to LA but it would be somewhere that would be cool to go see. As for crime.. as long as you arnt in a gang or go hang out in the north or west ends.. you should be just fine. People tend to get over exhagerated with the crime here. I personally have never had a problem anywhere. Its getting nicer here with more things to do for tourists. Work in progress but still a nice place to visit or live. Very affordable compared to other cities across North America. We are 768,000 Metro area population and growing.
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Post by maniaaron on Aug 11, 2011 20:03:30 GMT -6
Manitoba has couple of weird thing about it that people from elsewhere might be interested to learn and if things have changed since I moved, please someone correct me. first is : auto insurance is run by province and from what I remember not very well and second that the selling of hard booze is only at provincial run alcohol stores. you can't buy beer at 7-11 or any corner store or super markets you have to go to bars that have beer selling outlets. these 2 things mean that Manitoba is way left of center compared to the rest of north america. I am not sure that any other province is like that
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Post by LTZ on Aug 11, 2011 20:16:24 GMT -6
Manitoba has couple of weird thing about it that people from elsewhere might be interested to learn and if things have changed since I moved, please someone correct me. first is : auto insurance is run by province and from what I remember not very well and second that the selling of hard booze is only at provincial run alcohol stores. you can't buy beer at 7-11 or any corner store or super markets you have to go to bars that have beer selling outlets. these 2 things mean that Manitoba is way left of center compared to the rest of north america. I am not sure that any other province is like that Yep, no private insurance here. Manitoba Public Insurance has a monopoly. Don't ride a motorcycle here, insurance costs are astronomical. Manitoba Liquor Control Commission controls the sale of liquor so liquor can only be bought from their outlets. Beer can be bought from the MLCC or authorized "vendors". I believe that recently changes were made to the law and wine may find its way into the grocery stores here in the future. I could be wrong on that however. |
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