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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 6:06:42 GMT -6
lol....supposedly is right. Is that actually the best argument you can come up with? As I understand the Asper's goal was to hit $150 million but they fell short at $130 mill, not bad considering that accounts for almost half of the museums funding. The CMHR needs $200 million, since they underestimated the cost of building the museum. Funding has dried up. I guess we will be on the hook for the $70 million shortfall, in addition to the money the City of Winnipeg, Province, and Federal Government is contributing. The CMHR, after nearly a decade, still either has no idea what is going to be exhibited in the new museum, or is deliberately concealing that information, due to negative public reaction. The problem with this type of museum is the content is subjective. Quite a few groups, including the Ukrainian, German, Armenian, and Gay/Lesbian community have voiced dissatisfaction with the direction of the museum. Another thing that does not sit right about the CMHR, is they have avoided any type of response to questions from citizens about whether the museum will mention the struggles of the Palestinian people, and the human rights abuses of the Israeli government. A museum loses credibility if it's objective is seemingly political. |
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Post by Tim on Jan 4, 2013 6:30:58 GMT -6
Boy do we need the Jets playing, when the hottest topic on the board is the CMHR. I think any further costs should be assumed by the Aspers Aspers paying for somthing with there own money, that's Pucken priceless! |
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Post by USApegger on Jan 4, 2013 13:55:49 GMT -6
lol....supposedly is right. Is that actually the best argument you can come up with? As I understand the Asper's goal was to hit $150 million but they fell short at $130 mill, not bad considering that accounts for almost half of the museums funding. If you believe there is some shady book keeping and that the tax payers are being secretly screwed out of a hundred million dollars or so (as opposed to publicly like the stadium scenario) then I implore you to do some digging and give your argument some actual validity (something you desperately need I might add). How about we wait till the museum has been open for a few years and weigh the benefits vs the costs then? I've never thought Katz was the greatest mayor but reading some of your posts I feel blessed to have him at the helms. I'll make you a deal, if in 5 years the CMHR hasnt been a success I'll start a petition to make it into a popsicle stand and take you out for a beer? I almost never agree with anything you write Selanne 405 (I think we are opposites politically) but I completely agree with your responses on this Plus a million karma for you, but I can only give you one at a time! |
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Post by TheDeuce on Jan 4, 2013 16:11:54 GMT -6
{snip} How about we wait till the museum has been open for a few years and weigh the benefits vs the costs then? {more snip} Bottom line, right there. Deciding whether or not the CMHR is a failure today is like determining whether or not Trouba was a bust of a draft pick today. As of today we don't have enough information to make that determination. Remember when Duff Roblin was pushing to build a floodway around the City of Winnipeg? It was going to be a disaster, detractors claimed. A waste of money. 'Duff's Folly' they called it. History has a way of straightening these things out.... m. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 17:19:39 GMT -6
The difference is the Province did everything right when it came to the Floodway, including hiring Dutch engineers to design it. The floodway was a necessity for the city. You cannot compare the two, as the CMHR was a "want" and the floodway was a "need."
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Post by donwood on Jan 4, 2013 17:24:05 GMT -6
I dislike all the public money for the museum as anyone but saying the public fundraising may be falsified is highly unlikely. With non profit status the fundraising is required to be audited by an independent accounting firm.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Jan 4, 2013 23:14:09 GMT -6
It's amazing they could find $100s of millions for an ill-conceived museum with $10s of millions in annual tax payer subsidies, but couldn't replace Winnipeg Arena in the 90s...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 11:07:06 GMT -6
It's amazing they could find $100s of millions for an ill-conceived museum with $10s of millions in annual tax payer subsidies, but couldn't replace Winnipeg Arena in the 90s... ...or build a rapid transit line  |
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