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Post by shakinallover on Jul 26, 2014 21:27:47 GMT -6
Ellerby and Pardy were a good third pairing. Stuart and Bogo did well as did Trouba & Enstrom. Postma could fit in just about anywhere for when an injury occurs. Morrisey might have trouble cracking the line up this year. He's on the smaller side so I see him taking Enstrom's spot but the other spots seem to need a bigger body type.
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Post by Grumpz on Jul 27, 2014 10:27:19 GMT -6
how are people passing judgement on Clitsome? The guy tried playing with a bad back, then had to go for surgery. It happens in pro sports.
Injuries are also Chevy's fault?
2014/15 - The official return of the "White Out"!!
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Post by TheDeuce on Jul 27, 2014 11:49:45 GMT -6
how are people passing judgement on Clitsome? The guy tried playing with a bad back, then had to go for surgery. It happens in pro sports. Injuries are also Chevy's fault? 2014/15 - The official return of the "White Out"!! Yep. At least the duration is his fault. If I was a d-man on the IR I'd be in no hurry to get back on the ice knowing Pavelec is still the backstop. m.
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Post by lenny on Jul 27, 2014 13:38:31 GMT -6
how are people passing judgement on Clitsome? The guy tried playing with a bad back, then had to go for surgery. It happens in pro sports. Injuries are also Chevy's fault? 2014/15 - The official return of the "White Out"!! We get it Grumpz. You love Chevy and he can do not wrong. And Clitsome is the next Bobby Orr but instead of bad knees he has an iffy back.
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Post by Grumpz on Jul 27, 2014 14:21:41 GMT -6
how are people passing judgement on Clitsome? The guy tried playing with a bad back, then had to go for surgery. It happens in pro sports. Injuries are also Chevy's fault? 2014/15 - The official return of the "White Out"!! We get it Grumpz. You love Chevy and he can do not wrong. And Clitsome is the next Bobby Orr but instead of bad knees he has an iffy back. You get nothing about me or my points because you don't have the ability to comprehend what is typed by anyone but yourself. Your opinion is well document yet unsupported. Mine is neutral at this time, because he's only had 3 yrs to work with less than half an empty tool box.
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Post by lenny on Jul 27, 2014 16:44:40 GMT -6
We get it Grumpz. You love Chevy and he can do not wrong. And Clitsome is the next Bobby Orr but instead of bad knees he has an iffy back. You get nothing about me or my points because you don't have the ability to comprehend what is typed by anyone but yourself. Your opinion is well document yet unsupported. Mine is neutral at this time, because he's only had 3 yrs to work with less than half an empty tool box. Hmmm, ok. I said give him 2-3 years or thereabouts more to get to the playoffs as JJ and I agree on with this thread: jetshockeyforum.proboards.com/thread/5918/fans-nhl-chevys-gm-performance?page=6. You are not neutral. If you were neutral you'd stop defending him everytime someone criticizes him and simply analyze him and let the chips fall where they may.
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Post by Grumpz on Jul 27, 2014 17:10:08 GMT -6
You get nothing about me or my points because you don't have the ability to comprehend what is typed by anyone but yourself. Your opinion is well document yet unsupported. Mine is neutral at this time, because he's only had 3 yrs to work with less than half an empty tool box. Hmmm, ok. I said give him 2-3 years or thereabouts more to get to the playoffs as JJ and I agree on with this thread: jetshockeyforum.proboards.com/thread/5918/fans-nhl-chevys-gm-performance?page=6. You are not neutral. If you were neutral you'd stop defending him everytime someone criticizes him and simply analyze him and let the chips fall where they may. You can't see past your nose. I was critical of Noel, who Chevy has since fired and replaced. I'm also highly critical of how he's handled Pavelec but that is the hand he was dealt. It's not that easy to just find or trade for a bona-fide #1 goalie. In terms of moves for UFA's, how can I be critical of not overpaying for players? Did you not hear all the gasping on July 1st with those ludicrous deals that were signed? Yes, I'm neutral. Passing judgment can't partially be done, so I'll make my decision when Chevy starts making bad moves, or runs out of time.
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Post by IantheD on Jul 27, 2014 17:33:50 GMT -6
Ellerby and Morrissey will be fighting for that eight and final spot in camp. Jets will roll with 13 forwards this year so that Thorbs and Peluso aren't always both out there.
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Post by lenny on Jul 27, 2014 17:36:29 GMT -6
You can't see past your nose. I was critical of Noel, who Chevy has since fired and replaced. I'm also highly critical of how he's handled Pavelec but that is the hand he was dealt. It's not that easy to just find or trade for a bona-fide #1 goalie. In terms of moves for UFA's, how can I be critical of not overpaying for players? Did you not hear all the gasping on July 1st with those ludicrous deals that were signed? Yes, I'm neutral. Passing judgment can't partially be done, so I'll make my decision when Chevy starts making bad moves, or runs out of time. What has Noel have to do with Chevy? Chevy didn't hire him therefore he can't be blamed for the hire.The issue was Chevy not the ownership which hired Noel. Chevy should be praised for canning him. He wasn't dealt any hand with Pavelec. He could have canned him as well when he was dishonest with him with his DUI. Instead he signed a below average goaltender with a dishonest streak to a big multi-year contract. And instead of buying him out which wouldn't have counted against the cap this year we are stuck with him probably because he is an embarrassment to Chevy and it would look bad in having had loads of faith in him to now dump him. Your acting as if "passing judgment" is a final act. It isn't. It's being critical from time to time. I don't think you know what being critical or criticizing is and pronouncing final judgment on him is. Those are two distinct things.
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Post by floatyghosthat on Jul 27, 2014 18:19:38 GMT -6
Oh good, for a second there I was concerned that we might actually have a discussion that DIDN'T turn into a Chevy argument.
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Post by chemicalxv on Jul 27, 2014 18:27:02 GMT -6
Pavelec was also an RFA so it's not like the Jets didn't hold bargaining power either.
They could have signed him at least a million, if not a million and a half less per year with less term too. I highly doubt had the negotiations gone to salary arbitration that the ruling would have resulted in Pavelec's cap hit more than tripling.
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Post by chemicalxv on Jul 27, 2014 18:27:54 GMT -6
Oh good, for a second there I was concerned that we might actually have a discussion that DIDN'T turn into a Chevy argument. We wouldn't have Chevy arguments if people didn't run around blindly defending him in every topic
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Post by andyvette on Jul 27, 2014 21:05:54 GMT -6
Then there wouldn't be any need to have a discussion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Post by jjmoohead on Jul 27, 2014 21:19:28 GMT -6
You get nothing about me or my points because you don't have the ability to comprehend what is typed by anyone but yourself. Your opinion is well document yet unsupported. Mine is neutral at this time, because he's only had 3 yrs to work with less than half an empty tool box. Hmmm, ok. I said give him 2-3 years or thereabouts more to get to the playoffs as JJ and I agree on with this thread: jetshockeyforum.proboards.com/thread/5918/fans-nhl-chevys-gm-performance?page=6. You are not neutral. If you were neutral you'd stop defending him everytime someone criticizes him and simply analyze him and let the chips fall where they may. Yes I agree that 6 years should be the time needed to make the playoffs and have some permanent success throughout the year. However, I am not critical of chevy at this point because I have no reason to be.
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Post by Grumpz on Jul 28, 2014 9:12:57 GMT -6
Pavelec was also an RFA so it's not like the Jets didn't hold bargaining power either. They could have signed him at least a million, if not a million and a half less per year with less term too. I highly doubt had the negotiations gone to salary arbitration that the ruling would have resulted in Pavelec's cap hit more than tripling. Please tell me, the Jets had Pavelec and Mason at the end of season one prior to FA so what could Chevy do to get a goalie? Give up the pick that resulted in Trouba? Ya... No thanks. They had no goaltending prospects either and as for the deal., it was signed before the Jets found out about the DUI. Do people actually believe the NHLPA would the Jets to pull the contract? I agree the term and amount sucks but what was the alternative? 2014/15 - The official return of the "White Out"!!
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