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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 1:18:09 GMT -6
This is a no win thread.....
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Post by seasontixholder on Apr 27, 2015 5:20:30 GMT -6
The problem I have with Harper or Obama is the war monger crap they spew out. Spending billions over seas. How about just protecting your own borders. Let those countries over seas fight their own battles.
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Post by Tim on Apr 27, 2015 7:03:28 GMT -6
The problem I have with Harper or Obama is the war monger crap they spew out. Spending billions over seas. How about just protecting your own borders. Let those countries over seas fight their own battles. Because the US caused many of those battles! |
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Post by seasontixholder on Apr 27, 2015 11:04:23 GMT -6
The problem I have with Harper or Obama is the war monger crap they spew out. Spending billions over seas. How about just protecting your own borders. Let those countries over seas fight their own battles. Because the US caused many of those battles! I never thought of it that way. Puts it into a new perspective for sure. |
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Post by sloth on Apr 27, 2015 12:12:47 GMT -6
People who do not understand politics should not discuss politics. Same reason why there should be an IQ test for voting. If you don't inderstand the issues don't vote. That's why Obama is president.
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Post by sloth on Apr 27, 2015 12:16:44 GMT -6
Harper is a fawktard. reminds me a lot of that little dog that hides behind the big bulldog in the cartoons. ANYBODY will be better than that puke of a PM ...or hides in the closet, when other Parliamentary members arm themselves with spears, to prevent a crazed gunman from entering the House of Commons" Stephen Harper spent about 15 minutes hidden in a Parliament Hill closet after a gunman stormed Centre Block where he and the rest of the Conservative caucus were guarded by MPs who’d fashioned sharp spears from flagpoles, sources say.
After they heard gunfire outside their meeting room door Wednesday, members of Parliament snapped close to 15 flagpoles to make weapons. Some positioned themselves on risers that flanked doors, ready to attack an assailant. “There were 15 flags up at caucus and all but two were taken down,” one MP recalled.
“These guys were up there holding these spears ready to impale anyone who came in,” the source said. “It was that or get mowed down,” the member of Parliament said of the threat posed by a gunman who was ultimately shot dead by Parliament Hill security. Mr. Harper, meanwhile, had been whisked into a closet in the Centre Block room shortly after the gunfights outside began.
There were more than 150 Tory MPs stuck in this caucus room during the ordeal. Many MPs thought the Prime Minister had managed to get out of the room and didn’t know he was sequestered in what amounted to a cubbyhole. “Someone knew there was a closet there so they stuck him in there,” the source said.----- Our "courageous" leader: www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-attack-mps-fashioned-spears-while-harper-hid-in-closet/article21278580/Dispicable post. Shame on you. Continuity of government is priority one in those cases. It's why the only time people can disregard an order by the president is when there is at threat to him. He and the PM don't get a choice in the matter. If a terrorist managed to kill our PM, what a coup for terrorism. If you don't understsnd then you are a shameful Canadian. This isn't White House Down. Good God. Some people. |
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Post by weinbender on May 10, 2015 12:56:17 GMT -6
I love politics and I think Harper is a very PM, especially given the options out there (JMO), but politics belong in the water cooler! this whole thing that immigrants deserve a chance and well immigrants started this country is nonsense. its like the ppl in mexico or latins who live in the united states say ''well this part of america was once mexico so we belong here'' and the proper response to that is ''if this was mexico today you wouldn't want to be here cause it wouldn't be the land it is today'' and a coment like ''well i came here and bought a house, straight A student'' means nothing. and never think because you are a straight A student that does anything for you. Grades mean nothing after school. Diplomas mean nothing anymore. immigrants today are different than the ones in the '30s-'60s. Look at where they come from? Do they serve a purpose? Do they bring anything to Canada? There is a reason why the gov't has blocked the chinese to enter Canada cause they were buying land/real estate. The eco-experts finally realized that immigrants that buy into Canada does more harm than good for the already based Cdns. Anybody wanna buy a house in Winnipeg today? Anybody want to build a house in Winnipeg today? better off waiting. I totally forgot about this thread but seemed like my comment has sparked you a bit Immigrants are different now then they were in the 30s - 60s??? Explain... PM is fine with me If u say me being an upstanding citizen who doesnt cause trouble, pays my taxes, contributes to the local community and therefore to Canada as a whole has no meaning then I am giving up on you and anybody that supports your viewpoint. I knew Americans are arrogant for the most part and I have met quite a few before I made that conclusion, nevertheless I think much higher of my new home Of 16 years, but comments like these are extremely one sided unless you can provide proof that people like me who actually contribute instead of being a burden to Canada have no positive impact then your comment are invalid and therefore in this case stupid and bordering on racism for loss of another word. I respect other peoples opinions and I know this is the Internet so we can curse and be callous to each other without any consequences but lets be civil and rational. Id like to know what makes me being a Canadian citizen for most of my life and contributing to its economy be a negative part??? Enlighten me sir, and maybe while you are at it, check your history, where your ancestors came from and why and maybe just maybe try to have some empathy for more modern immigrants that didnt come here to exploit Canada's system or its resources Daniel Btw I dont have a degree in anything, I could but chose not to as ive seen too many kids waste their money and time and then go work at macdonalds. I am just like most, I try to do my job to the best of abilities and try to improve and learn new things. Would appreciate a thought through and informative reply, thank you |
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Post by jetsorbust on May 13, 2015 13:56:21 GMT -6
...or hides in the closet, when other Parliamentary members arm themselves with spears, to prevent a crazed gunman from entering the House of Commons" Stephen Harper spent about 15 minutes hidden in a Parliament Hill closet after a gunman stormed Centre Block where he and the rest of the Conservative caucus were guarded by MPs who’d fashioned sharp spears from flagpoles, sources say.
After they heard gunfire outside their meeting room door Wednesday, members of Parliament snapped close to 15 flagpoles to make weapons. Some positioned themselves on risers that flanked doors, ready to attack an assailant. “There were 15 flags up at caucus and all but two were taken down,” one MP recalled.
“These guys were up there holding these spears ready to impale anyone who came in,” the source said. “It was that or get mowed down,” the member of Parliament said of the threat posed by a gunman who was ultimately shot dead by Parliament Hill security. Mr. Harper, meanwhile, had been whisked into a closet in the Centre Block room shortly after the gunfights outside began.
There were more than 150 Tory MPs stuck in this caucus room during the ordeal. Many MPs thought the Prime Minister had managed to get out of the room and didn’t know he was sequestered in what amounted to a cubbyhole. “Someone knew there was a closet there so they stuck him in there,” the source said.----- Our "courageous" leader: www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-attack-mps-fashioned-spears-while-harper-hid-in-closet/article21278580/Dispicable post. Shame on you. Continuity of government is priority one in those cases. It's why the only time people can disregard an order by the president is when there is at threat to him. He and the PM don't get a choice in the matter. If a terrorist managed to kill our PM, what a coup for terrorism. If you don't understsnd then you are a shameful Canadian. This isn't White House Down. Good God. Some people. Exactly. The job of the PM and everyone around him in that situation was to keep the PM out of harms way, or else as you said terrorism has succeeded. |
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Post by Tim on May 14, 2015 12:33:24 GMT -6
Dispicable post. Shame on you. Continuity of government is priority one in those cases. It's why the only time people can disregard an order by the president is when there is at threat to him. He and the PM don't get a choice in the matter. If a terrorist managed to kill our PM, what a coup for terrorism. If you don't understsnd then you are a shameful Canadian. This isn't White House Down. Good God. Some people. Exactly. The job of the PM and everyone around him in that situation was to keep the PM out of harms way, or else as you said terrorism has succeeded. From the lips of people who would probably crap there pants and run like hell in a situation like this! So easy to criticize! |
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Post by Tim on May 14, 2015 12:53:00 GMT -6
Wow. I'm guessing you never, as a kid, had to move from your home because Trudeau Sr's monetary policy meant your parents couldn't make the mortgage payments anymore. If you think Harper is the worst you must not have lived under many Prime Ministers. He's not everyone's cup of tea but he's been a solid Prime Minister during a globally tumultuous time. Every developed nation wishes they had a Harper-esque hand on the tiller during this economic storm. Besides non-sequiturs and ad hominem attacks can you point to a specific policy or decision implementation that would warrant the characterization you proffered? m. dont ever presume what my situation is or was like.you have no clue. I hear all this and it reminds me of a conversation I had with a cabbie in Mexico, and how he said to me how lucky we were to have a P.M. like Harper and how the people in Mexico respect him, first I was in shock that he even knew who the P.M. of Canada was, then I remembered I wasn't visiting the U.S. Mexicans do know lots about what's happening outside of there borders and Canada has a pretty good name because of the man running this country, it will never be perfect for everone, I guess Justin or the NDP must look better to you, I just can't understand why? |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 16:02:59 GMT -6
dont ever presume what my situation is or was like.you have no clue. I hear all this and it reminds me of a conversation I had with a cabbie in Mexico, and how he said to me how lucky we were to have a P.M. like Harper and how the people in Mexico respect him, first I was in shock that he even knew who the P.M. of Canada was, then I remembered I wasn't visiting the U.S. Mexicans do know lots about what's happening outside of there borders and Canada has a pretty good name because of the man running this country, it will never be perfect for everone, I guess Justin or the NDP must look better to you, I just can't understand why? I would be saying the same thing if I lived in Mexico. It's a third world country, rampant with corruption and organized crime. The standard of living is a fraction of what it is here. I'd rally like to hear what some people from the UK, Scandinavia, and Australia think, as they ahve a relatively similar quality of life. The USA has been going downhill for nearly 15 years, ever since 9/11, and it's becoming more and more of a Police state, something Harper and the Conservatives want to copy for all of us. The sad thing is the Conservative Government's unconditional support of the state of Israel, and their pledge to go overseas, if necessary, to "fight terrorism" will put all Canadians at risk for future terrorists attack. Both my Grandparents fought in wars, for the freedoms we enjoy today. I'm not prepared to compromise those freedoms, or civil liberties in the name of fighting "terrorism." Speaking of which, care to guess how Israel became an independent state? One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter. The Canadian Government needs to take a more neutral stance in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. |
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Post by Tim on May 19, 2015 6:22:46 GMT -6
I hear all this and it reminds me of a conversation I had with a cabbie in Mexico, and how he said to me how lucky we were to have a P.M. like Harper and how the people in Mexico respect him, first I was in shock that he even knew who the P.M. of Canada was, then I remembered I wasn't visiting the U.S. Mexicans do know lots about what's happening outside of there borders and Canada has a pretty good name because of the man running this country, it will never be perfect for everone, I guess Justin or the NDP must look better to you, I just can't understand why? I would be saying the same thing if I lived in Mexico. It's a third world country, rampant with corruption and organized crime. The standard of living is a fraction of what it is here. I'd rally like to hear what some people from the UK, Scandinavia, and Australia think, as they ahve a relatively similar quality of life. The USA has been going downhill for nearly 15 years, ever since 9/11, and it's becoming more and more of a Police state, something Harper and the Conservatives want to copy for all of us. The sad thing is the Conservative Government's unconditional support of the state of Israel, and their pledge to go overseas, if necessary, to "fight terrorism" will put all Canadians at risk for future terrorists attack. Both my Grandparents fought in wars, for the freedoms we enjoy today. I'm not prepared to compromise those freedoms, or civil liberties in the name of fighting "terrorism." Speaking of which, care to guess how Israel became an independent state? One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter. The Canadian Government needs to take a more neutral stance in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. A hundred years from now if the US hasn't caused WWIII, Israel-Palestinian will still be fighting, there will be unrest in the middle east, the US will put in place more terrorist groups to run country's that will eventually turn against the Americans and they will be the next bad guy on the block, this will never change unless someone does press the button then all problems will be over. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 6:50:26 GMT -6
I would be saying the same thing if I lived in Mexico. It's a third world country, rampant with corruption and organized crime. The standard of living is a fraction of what it is here. I'd rally like to hear what some people from the UK, Scandinavia, and Australia think, as they ahve a relatively similar quality of life. The USA has been going downhill for nearly 15 years, ever since 9/11, and it's becoming more and more of a Police state, something Harper and the Conservatives want to copy for all of us. The sad thing is the Conservative Government's unconditional support of the state of Israel, and their pledge to go overseas, if necessary, to "fight terrorism" will put all Canadians at risk for future terrorists attack. Both my Grandparents fought in wars, for the freedoms we enjoy today. I'm not prepared to compromise those freedoms, or civil liberties in the name of fighting "terrorism." Speaking of which, care to guess how Israel became an independent state? One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter. The Canadian Government needs to take a more neutral stance in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. A hundred years from now if the US hasn't caused WWIII, Israel-Palestinian will still be fighting, there will be unrest in the middle east, the US will put in place more terrorist groups to run country's that will eventually turn against the Americans and they will be the next bad guy on the block, this will never change unless someone does press the button then all problems will be over. Sadly, the pro-Israel lobby is too strong in North America. We are essentially subsidizing Israel, when the nation is already more powerful than all Arab states combined. If you were to ask even moderate Muslims why some of the people in their religion are extremists, they will reply that it is due to the unconditional support of Israel, who they view as colonialists, and the presence of Allied military in the area. People will be fighting in the holy land for hundreds of years, and to even think we can bring peace to the region, let alone take sides, is ridiculous. Jerusalem is extremely significant to Jews, Muslims, and Christians, and no one wants to back down. I say let Israel fight their own battles, and stay out of it. Terrorism by Muslim radicals would be reduced significantly if we played our traditional role as peacekeepers, rather than intervene by military. |
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