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Post by mikecubs on Oct 19, 2016 15:36:50 GMT -6
Ottawa's attendance last night was 11,061 vs. Arizona With a losing team, we averaged better than in the 80s and 90s, drawing from 700k. Fair weather fans sicken me. Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice Yes AVERAGED other than the last lame duck year but what about individual games? Don't think it's fair weather fans. It's a real bad arena(both in size and location) plus losing and it was the day of a Jays playoff game.
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Post by Ric O. on Oct 19, 2016 19:05:36 GMT -6
Canadian team getting 11k and there wasn't a blizzard or nuclear war...seems like a significant thing to me. I'm not sure I buy the arena thing or losing...we're only a couple of games into the season! At the same time, this number seems like an anomaly. Let's see if it becomes as real trend. In any case, they are getting a new downtown area, right?
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Post by Grumpz on Oct 19, 2016 19:56:06 GMT -6
With a losing team, we averaged better than in the 80s and 90s, drawing from 700k. Fair weather fans sicken me. Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice Yes AVERAGED other than the last lame duck year but what about individual games? Don't think it's fair weather fans. It's a real bad arena(both in size and location) plus losing and it was the day of a Jays playoff game. When they win, they fill the place. The team needs a rebuild, and isn't successful, they don't. The building is the same win or lose. That excuse doesn't float. Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice
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Post by mikecubs on Oct 23, 2016 15:36:31 GMT -6
Canadian team getting 11k and there wasn't a blizzard or nuclear war...seems like a significant thing to me. I'm not sure I buy the arena thing or losing...we're only a couple of games into the season! At the same time, this number seems like an anomaly. Let's see if it becomes as real trend. In any case, they are getting a new downtown area, right? It's not 100% that they are getting the arena yet. It looks good but it's not done. There are still approvals that are needed.
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Post by mikecubs on Oct 23, 2016 15:44:47 GMT -6
Yes AVERAGED other than the last lame duck year but what about individual games? Don't think it's fair weather fans. It's a real bad arena(both in size and location) plus losing and it was the day of a Jays playoff game. When they win, they fill the place. The team needs a rebuild, and isn't successful, they don't. The building is the same win or lose. That excuse doesn't float. Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice Totally agree a rebuild is needed. It's the same arena but when you are losing some people aren't going to make the drive and spend the time on a loser in the middle of no where. Suburban arenas/baseball parks don't work. It's too many games and people won't go when the team is bad(and in some cases when the team is good, Tampa Rays-MLB) You need the walk up crowds/convenient access for when things are going bad. Ottawa's arena was modeled after the Palace of Auburn Hills the Detroit Pistons of the NBA's home. The Pistons historically the past 25 years overall are one of the leagues top drawing teams average wise but they were winners most of that time. The past 5 years haven't been good record wise or attendance wise because they started losing and were uninteresting. The other issue is capacity and just not in Ottawa. I think Ottawa, Vancouver, Calgary, Quebec(if they get a team), Edmonton all have too big of capacities. MTS was a compromise because it wasn't known if a team would come or not and could use more capacity but the other teams took it too far the other way. 18,000s to 19,289 is too big. Take a lesson from the Jets and cut down a bit. Vancouver should cut out some last row seats and add loge boxes. Those are a great capacity reducer. Ottawa/Calgary when they get new barns should cut way down to something like 17,500 for Ottawa, 18,000 for Calgary.
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