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Post by mikecubs on Apr 28, 2017 7:53:26 GMT -6
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Post by pachman40 on Apr 28, 2017 11:16:13 GMT -6
Don't know about Ottawa, but playoff prices are steeeeeep here in Winnipeg and there's no guarantee that people will perpetually just "here you go take my money" at any price. I know when I get my season ticket email asking me to commit to playoff tix I automatically commit because there's enough people in my group that there's no risk. But I tell you when I look at the prices go up round by round as we get closer to the Cup there's a whole lotta sticker shock. First deep playoff run I have no doubts that we instant sellout every game, but after a couple times people will absolutely start to question themselves. Curious how Ottawa's playoff prices compare to regular season for the same ticket.
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Post by Ric O. on Apr 28, 2017 19:27:57 GMT -6
Yeah Ottawa doesn't have any history of deep playoff runs nevermind a recent one; astounding that they're already not selling out. Well it would be astounding if it were not Ottawa. I don't think that town digs hockey all that much and many of those that do have loyalties elsewhere...habs, leafs, etc.
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 29, 2017 8:23:08 GMT -6
Yeah Ottawa doesn't have any history of deep playoff runs nevermind a recent one; astounding that they're already not selling out. Well it would be astounding if it were not Ottawa. I don't think that town digs hockey all that much and many of those that do have loyalties elsewhere...habs, leafs, etc. Agree with some of this. Other problems are 1. A shallow corporate base(the government isn't allowed to buy tickets and they are the biggest employer) 2. Bad arena location 3. Too big of a capacity/no demand(they need a downtown 17,000 seat arena) This not selling out out might be a good thing in a way. Hopefully it encourages them to go with only 17,000 seats at the new arena. If Quebec ever gets a team back(which I doubt) I bet they will have trouble too in the long run with a 18,259 capacity.
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Post by TheDeuce on Apr 29, 2017 13:12:45 GMT -6
Yeah Ottawa doesn't have any history of deep playoff runs nevermind a recent one; astounding that they're already not selling out. Well it would be astounding if it were not Ottawa. I don't think that town digs hockey all that much and many of those that do have loyalties elsewhere...habs, leafs, etc. Agree with some of this. Other problems are 1. A shallow corporate base(the government isn't allowed to buy tickets and they are the biggest employer) 2. Bad arena location 3. Too big of a capacity/no demand(they need a downtown 17,000 seat arena)
This not selling out out might be a good thing in a way. Hopefully it encourages them to go with only 17,000 seats at the new arena. If Quebec ever gets a team back(which I doubt) I bet they will have trouble too in the long run with a 18,259 capacity. The bolded is huge. It was one of the factors considered when TN planned the MTS Centre. m.
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Post by USApegger on Apr 30, 2017 6:13:56 GMT -6
Yeah Ottawa doesn't have any history of deep playoff runs nevermind a recent one; astounding that they're already not selling out. Well it would be astounding if it were not Ottawa. I don't think that town digs hockey all that much and many of those that do have loyalties elsewhere...habs, leafs, etc. Agree with some of this. Other problems are 1. A shallow corporate base(the government isn't allowed to buy tickets and they are the biggest employer) 2. Bad arena location3. Too big of a capacity/no demand(they need a downtown 17,000 seat arena) This not selling out out might be a good thing in a way. Hopefully it encourages them to go with only 17,000 seats at the new arena. If Quebec ever gets a team back(which I doubt) I bet they will have trouble too in the long run with a 18,259 capacity. Wait a minute, this is the same reason given for Arizona that everyone scoffs at
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Post by mikecubs on Apr 30, 2017 9:15:35 GMT -6
Agree with some of this. Other problems are 1. A shallow corporate base(the government isn't allowed to buy tickets and they are the biggest employer) 2. Bad arena location3. Too big of a capacity/no demand(they need a downtown 17,000 seat arena) This not selling out out might be a good thing in a way. Hopefully it encourages them to go with only 17,000 seats at the new arena. If Quebec ever gets a team back(which I doubt) I bet they will have trouble too in the long run with a 18,259 capacity. Wait a minute, this is the same reason given for Arizona that everyone scoffs at I 100% agree it's part of the problem but no where near the entire problem. The main problem for Arizona is the city isn't big enough for 4 teams at this point when you consider per capita income, transplants, fortune 1000 companies, the amount of Hispanic population etc... If downtown was going to be cure all and make the Coyotes profitable the Suns owner would buy the team and demand a new NBA/NHL shared arena. He doesn't because the Coyotes will still be a money loser due to the market. But yes HYPOTHETICALLY IF Phoenix was a good hockey market, the arena location would still kill them no doubt. Northern fans are way the hell too willing to dismiss that. Suburban arenas/ballparks don't work except in a few VERY rare cases. ONLY football stadiums work in suburban locations due to the only 8 home games.
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