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Post by lenny on Dec 1, 2023 6:42:05 GMT -6
I'm with the coach on this one. Go head to head with the Oilers offence? Nah. Try to shut them down by playing Dallas type hockey and expect your Vezina goaltender to backstop it. It was going exactly to plan until Helle lost his concentration momentarily and then the cheap penalty in the last few minutes against a potent PP. Maurice did it a few years back and they were out in 4 straight. Frustrate McDavid and the other pieces begin to shake including Draisaitl. Unfortunately it came with the other home loss and this is exactly the recipe you don't want in our building given the attendance issues. But that is a separate issue.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Dec 1, 2023 8:18:46 GMT -6
It is hard to believe the faceoffs were 71% won by the Oilers. That is 'not even close' as they say.
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Post by ddanger on Dec 1, 2023 9:38:12 GMT -6
Back to the drawing boards for the Jets. A lot more needed to be done by the Jets to be considered a top contender. Absolutely agree....we have some very strong players, but our top players just seem to vanish when the going gets tough. I'm referring primarily to 81 and 55. Felt bad for 37, he shoulda had that goal, and he usually does.
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Post by 2b9 on Dec 1, 2023 10:01:21 GMT -6
Back to the drawing boards for the Jets. A lot more needed to be done by the Jets to be considered a top contender. Absolutely agree....we have some very strong players, but our top players just seem to vanish when the going gets tough. I'm referring primarily to 81 and 55. Felt bad for 37, he shoulda had that goal, and he usually does. Game tomorrow/Saturday, Chicago Blackhawks, let’s stop the losing streak, and start a new winning streak.
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Post by lenny on Dec 1, 2023 11:53:18 GMT -6
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Post by lenny on Dec 1, 2023 12:09:33 GMT -6
They should be able to take the lowly Blackhawks coming up. Why do i think the Blackhawks are trying to maneuver to the low ball status and trying to re-create how they built it last time: Toews third overall in the 2006 draft, and then stink out the 2006-07 season with the 4rth worst record and win the draft lottery they get 1st overall pick with Patrick Kane. The rest is history.
With Bedard if they get a high place in the draft lottery and come up 3rd let's say overall that would be one hell of a coincidence or some lucky charms over there.
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Post by lenny on Dec 1, 2023 12:57:48 GMT -6
Anybody concerned the cumulative total of Scheif and Connor is -11?
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Dec 1, 2023 13:24:51 GMT -6
Anybody concerned the cumulative total of Scheif and Connor is -11? They will be a different line once Valardi is back on it
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Post by bigoljetairliner on Dec 1, 2023 13:30:39 GMT -6
Winnipeg just announced that Namestnikov will miss the next game for sure, probably the following one as well.
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Post by honeybadger on Dec 1, 2023 14:43:26 GMT -6
Felt Veznia was our letdown one again? Don;t think as a top 5 goalie in the league you should have a brain fart like that! And once again two superstars Drysidyl and Hellybuck who is the star out of those two last night? Give you a hint he's slower than Drysadel shot! 8 million dollars to let in easy goals no cup winning with this guy? But the Wpg fans don't see it? Oh yeah he stops alot of shots but not the ones that really really matter time after time!
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 1, 2023 14:53:35 GMT -6
I'm with the coach on this one. Go head to head with the Oilers offence? Nah. Try to shut them down by playing Dallas type hockey and expect your Vezina goaltender to backstop it. It was going exactly to plan until Helle lost his concentration momentarily and then the cheap penalty in the last few minutes against a potent PP. Maurice did it a few years back and they were out in 4 straight. Frustrate McDavid and the other pieces begin to shake including Draisaitl. Unfortunately it came with the other home loss and this is exactly the recipe you don't want in our building given the attendance issues. But that is a separate issue. Counting on your goaltender to win you games is a losing strategy. Have we not seen enough of it? So, the game plan was to win 1-0? When we swept the Oilers, as I recall, the Jets scored quite a few goals. I just looked it up. 14 goals in 4 games. Helle had a little help.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 1, 2023 15:30:04 GMT -6
Felt Veznia was our letdown one again? Don;t think as a top 5 goalie in the league you should have a brain fart like that! And once again two superstars Drysidyl and Hellybuck who is the star out of those two last night? Give you a hint he's slower than Drysadel shot! 8 million dollars to let in easy goals no cup winning with this guy? But the Wpg fans don't see it? Oh yeah he stops alot of shots but not the ones that really really matter time after time! Dude. In the 3 straight losses, the Jets have scored 3 goals. Just what are you expecting from the goaltenders? Is a shutout every game the standard you set? So, the spectacular saves that Hellebuyck made early didn't really matter? We could easily have been down 4-0 in that game. Your goalie keeping you in the game doesn't work unless you score. The Oilers owned the faceoffs. They owned the time of possession. They owned the the O-zone. They have the best player in the world and they scored 2 goals. C'mon man.
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Post by truthspeaker on Dec 1, 2023 16:06:43 GMT -6
Felt Veznia was our letdown one again? Don;t think as a top 5 goalie in the league you should have a brain fart like that! And once again two superstars Drysidyl and Hellybuck who is the star out of those two last night? Give you a hint he's slower than Drysadel shot! 8 million dollars to let in easy goals no cup winning with this guy? But the Wpg fans don't see it? Oh yeah he stops alot of shots but not the ones that really really matter time after time! I'm with you Badger on this one, we should have traded Helle when we had the chance, but it appears no one wanted him, the cat is out of the bag, other GM's don't view Helle as an elite goaltender...and they are right.
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Post by truthspeaker on Dec 1, 2023 16:11:52 GMT -6
Dude. In the 3 straight losses, the Jets have scored 3 goals. Just what are you expecting from the goaltenders? Is a shutout every game the standard you set? So, the spectacular saves that Hellebuyck made early didn't really matter? We could easily have been down 4-0 in that game. Your goalie keeping you in the game doesn't work unless you score. The Oilers owned the faceoffs. They owned the time of possession. They owned the the O-zone. They have the best player in the world and they scored 2 goals. C'mon man. Yeah but Helle had a brain fart and let an easy one AGAIN, which he usually does at least once a game sometimes more. Which gave the Oilers the momentum. What he did before that s**t goal means nothing.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 1, 2023 16:41:17 GMT -6
Yeah but Helle had a brain fart and let an easy one AGAIN, which he usually does at least once a game sometimes more. Which gave the Oilers the momentum. What he did before that s**t goal means nothing. OK. So the game plan was a 1-0 victory. Yeah. Right. He gave the Oilers momentum? What game were you watching? The Oilers had nothing but momentum for the last period. The forwards and the D gave them momentum. Goaltending was not the reason they lost that game. The Oilers imposed their will. The Jets withered.
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