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Post by ekjet72 on Dec 4, 2023 21:29:06 GMT -6
Hey guys the Jets scored all 3 goals what are we worried about!
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 4, 2023 21:30:29 GMT -6
All a game like that does is instill the belief that you don't have to show up to win games.
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Post by darlyn on Dec 4, 2023 21:32:42 GMT -6
Hey guys the Jets scored all 3 goals what are we worried about! Was thinking the exact same thing. Great minds.... yada, yada, yada....lol
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 4, 2023 22:31:51 GMT -6
Good for LB. He needed that.
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Post by Rocky Mountain Jets Fan on Dec 4, 2023 23:21:34 GMT -6
Lowry should have stepped into the circle after Sheif couldn't win a draw for the life of him. Almost cost them.
Also can't stand when your top scorer can't hit an empty net!
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 5, 2023 1:19:19 GMT -6
Lowry should have stepped into the circle after Sheif couldn't win a draw for the life of him. Almost cost them. Also can't stand when your top scorer can't hit an empty net! Playing like that is just unsustainable. Its a recipe for failure. And the home fans are smart enough to see it. Hence, the attendance.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 5, 2023 1:23:32 GMT -6
This team can mail it in, and win some of those with goaltending and a snipe here and there. But we know what happens at playoff time.
I'm disappointed with that kind of win.
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Post by hillman on Dec 5, 2023 7:23:46 GMT -6
The 1st period was a bit of a gong show but the Jets did come back to a decent level.The Canes absolutely swarm the puck carrier. And in waves.They also shoot from EVERYWHERE. I agree it's not a way to win hockey games the way the Jets played. But it seems they always have trouble with high pressure teams. On the positive side : That super high pressure the Canes play seems to allow some real high danger chances against them. Interestingly Natural Stat Trick has it alot closer than shots on goal appeared : Canes. Jets Scoring chances. 27. - 22 High danger chances. 14. - 8 Expected goals. 3.39. - 2.04
Now while that's still a pretty dominant game for the Canes it's more even than one would think. Apparently the system the Jets use to calculate those figures had it even closer. It makes me wonder if the Canes goaltending woes are partially a result of that super high pressure system they play . Does it at some point open up other players for high danger chances if you can get them the puck ?
Regardless I wouldn't bet on winning many games like that last night.
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Post by ekjet72 on Dec 5, 2023 8:16:08 GMT -6
To paraphrase The Raiders AL Davis.. Just score baby! Shoot the puck, hit the goal, get some guys in front of said goal, and all will be better. The goalies will do what goalies do.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 5, 2023 10:59:33 GMT -6
The 1st period was a bit of a gong show but the Jets did come back to a decent level.The Canes absolutely swarm the puck carrier. And in waves.They also shoot from EVERYWHERE. I agree it's not a way to win hockey games the way the Jets played. But it seems they always have trouble with high pressure teams. On the positive side : That super high pressure the Canes play seems to allow some real high danger chances against them. Interestingly Natural Stat Trick has it alot closer than shots on goal appeared : Canes. Jets Scoring chances. 27. - 22 High danger chances. 14. - 8 Expected goals. 3.39. - 2.04 Now while that's still a pretty dominant game for the Canes it's more even than one would think. Apparently the system the Jets use to calculate those figures had it even closer. It makes me wonder if the Canes goaltending woes are partially a result of that super high pressure system they play . Does it at some point open up other players for high danger chances if you can get them the puck ? Regardless I wouldn't bet on winning many games like that last night. Wait a second. The Jets had a total of 22 shots on goal. So every shot was considered a scoring chance? If that's the case, how do the Canes end up with 27 scoring chances on 43 shots? Someone help me understand this.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 5, 2023 11:06:39 GMT -6
Anyway, to me it's pretty simple. If you play that way, you need stellar goaltending, or you're going to lose.
And, hasn't that been this team's MO for a few seasons now? It hasn't worked.
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Post by lenny on Dec 5, 2023 15:26:19 GMT -6
This is the type of goaltending the first half of last year which saved the Jets goat. But then when it wasn't as stellar January forward things became marginal at best.
As i stated in the Oilers game, though the Jets were more passive than this game, they almost pulled it off as Helle was great until he let that floater in. And the Canes have problematic goaltending so the Jets could afford to press a bit more.
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Post by hillman on Dec 5, 2023 18:07:27 GMT -6
The 1st period was a bit of a gong show but the Jets did come back to a decent level.The Canes absolutely swarm the puck carrier. And in waves.They also shoot from EVERYWHERE. I agree it's not a way to win hockey games the way the Jets played. But it seems they always have trouble with high pressure teams. On the positive side : That super high pressure the Canes play seems to allow some real high danger chances against them. Interestingly Natural Stat Trick has it alot closer than shots on goal appeared : Canes. Jets Scoring chances. 27. - 22 High danger chances. 14. - 8 Expected goals. 3.39. - 2.04 Now while that's still a pretty dominant game for the Canes it's more even than one would think. Apparently the system the Jets use to calculate those figures had it even closer. It makes me wonder if the Canes goaltending woes are partially a result of that super high pressure system they play . Does it at some point open up other players for high danger chances if you can get them the puck ? Regardless I wouldn't bet on winning many games like that last night. Wait a second. The Jets had a total of 22 shots on goal. So every shot was considered a scoring chance? If that's the case, how do the Canes end up with 27 scoring chances on 43 shots? Someone help me understand this. I assume if you ring one off the iron that counts as a scoring chance even though it doesn't count as a shot. Any high end close call ? It's all definitly got a good deal of opinion / Grey area to it. As I said the Jets had different numbers apparently. As far as all the Canes shots they definitely threw alot that weren't dangerous. Mind you , a ton were only saved by stellar goal tending. Thats all the answers I have. Natural Stat Trick seems to have a good reputation so I don't know.
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Post by hillman on Dec 5, 2023 18:10:26 GMT -6
This is the type of goaltending the first half of last year which saved the Jets goat. But then when it wasn't as stellar January forward things became marginal at best. As i stated in the Oilers game, though the Jets were more passive than this game, they almost pulled it off as Helle was great until he let that floater in. And the Canes have problematic goaltending so the Jets could afford to press a bit more. Apparently that floater came off Demelo's stick. .They said you had to watch it it in slo mo to see it just slightly deflect.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Dec 5, 2023 18:45:07 GMT -6
Wait a second. The Jets had a total of 22 shots on goal. So every shot was considered a scoring chance? If that's the case, how do the Canes end up with 27 scoring chances on 43 shots? Someone help me understand this. I assume if you ring one off the iron that counts as a scoring chance even though it doesn't count as a shot. Any high end close call ? It's all definitly got a good deal of opinion / Grey area to it. As I said the Jets had different numbers apparently. As far as all the Canes shots they definitely threw alot that weren't dangerous. Mind you , a ton were only saved by stellar goal tending. Thats all the answers I have. Natural Stat Trick seems to have a good reputation so I don't know. I dunno. How they come up with the numbers is beyond me. I guess everytime KC fires it high or wide is a scoring chance but not a shot. The thing is, the Canes fired a lot high or wide as well.
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