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Post by lenny on Feb 9, 2024 21:06:59 GMT -6
Stanley is prob. with Dillon the two best guys for clearing the front of the net. Both intimidating. The problem with Stanley is not his skating because he is quite maneuverable for a big man. But that is relative for this team. Secondly, in 58 games for the 21-22 season of all the dmen he was the best in hits/60 at 8.66; in BkS/60 he was the best of the dmen. In GvA/60 however he was the worst of the current crop of dmen (only Beaulieu and Kovavecic were worst but they played far less games).
In 20-21 he was second to only Pionk in hits/60.
For the meager games he played in the 2022-23 he led the team in hits/60.
So don't tell me this guy is not physical. He is probably the best fighter as well along with Lowry and Dillon.
I'm guessing now that the Jets are wanting dmen who could skate the puck out of their own zone and play aggressive offensively when the opportunity presents itself. Look at the small maneuverable dmen they have now. Even our big man Dillon can skate well and is prepared to read properly to know when to turn defence into offense. This is not Stanley. Bones wants pressure in the offensive zone which includes his dmen prepared to turn defense to offense. I don't think that's Stanley. Stanley can make nice passes from his zone because he's big and sees a lot of the ice but he's is the stuff of stay at home and make outlet passes and physicality. that's not in Bones plans nor it appears in Jets plans at this time except as an extra body.
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Post by ekjet72 on Feb 9, 2024 22:25:50 GMT -6
See what the Jets bring against the Penguins. . Minni, to a man, is playing Pitt tough tonight.Jets have to win tomorrow’s game. we have had many Jets home games where we take on a team that's on a back to back. Coming into the Peg late night. Should be gassed,right? But WE play soft, tired and lose. Again. Sure hope that isn't the script tomorrow.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Feb 9, 2024 23:10:38 GMT -6
We can all agree to disagree on Stanley. Samberg is a starter because he proved himself capable. Stanley has had every opportunity to crack the lineup. He played over 90 games with the Jets before Samberg even had a sniff. So let's not do the he hasn't had an opportunity thing. There's a reason he lives in the pressbox.
The coach makes those decisions and I accede to his wisdom, be it PoMo or Bones.
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Post by Ric O. on Feb 10, 2024 9:29:09 GMT -6
Stanley is prob. with Dillon the two best guys for clearing the front of the net. Both intimidating. The problem with Stanley is not his skating because he is quite maneuverable for a big man. But that is relative for this team. Secondly, in 58 games for the 21-22 season of all the dmen he was the best in hits/60 at 8.66; in BkS/60 he was the best of the dmen. In GvA/60 however he was the worst of the current crop of dmen (only Beaulieu and Kovavecic were worst but they played far less games). In 20-21 he was second to only Pionk in hits/60. For the meager games he played in the 2022-23 he led the team in hits/60. So don't tell me this guy is not physical. He is probably the best fighter as well along with Lowry and Dillon. I'm guessing now that the Jets are wanting dmen who could skate the puck out of their own zone and play aggressive offensively when the opportunity presents itself. Look at the small maneuverable dmen they have now. Even our big man Dillon can skate well and is prepared to read properly to know when to turn defence into offense. This is not Stanley. Bones wants pressure in the offensive zone which includes his dmen prepared to turn defense to offense. I don't think that's Stanley. Stanley can make nice passes from his zone because he's big and sees a lot of the ice but he's is the stuff of stay at home and make outlet passes and physicality. that's not in Bones plans nor it appears in Jets plans at this time except as an extra body. Great breakdown Lenny.
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Post by bigoljetairliner on Feb 10, 2024 10:20:13 GMT -6
Looks like Winnipeg has altered the lines somewhat.....finally Ehlers on the top unit again, but should have been Connor dropping down.
Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers Perfetti-Monahan-Vilardi Niederreiter-Lowry-Appleton Barron-Namestnikov-Iafallo
Morrissey-DeMelo Samberg-Pionk Stanley-Schmidt
Hellebuyck Brossoit
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Post by 2b9 on Feb 10, 2024 10:21:30 GMT -6
Stanley is prob. with Dillon the two best guys for clearing the front of the net. Both intimidating. The problem with Stanley is not his skating because he is quite maneuverable for a big man. But that is relative for this team. Secondly, in 58 games for the 21-22 season of all the dmen he was the best in hits/60 at 8.66; in BkS/60 he was the best of the dmen. In GvA/60 however he was the worst of the current crop of dmen (only Beaulieu and Kovavecic were worst but they played far less games). In 20-21 he was second to only Pionk in hits/60. For the meager games he played in the 2022-23 he led the team in hits/60. So don't tell me this guy is not physical. He is probably the best fighter as well along with Lowry and Dillon. I'm guessing now that the Jets are wanting dmen who could skate the puck out of their own zone and play aggressive offensively when the opportunity presents itself. Look at the small maneuverable dmen they have now. Even our big man Dillon can skate well and is prepared to read properly to know when to turn defence into offense. This is not Stanley. Bones wants pressure in the offensive zone which includes his dmen prepared to turn defense to offense. I don't think that's Stanley. Stanley can make nice passes from his zone because he's big and sees a lot of the ice but he's is the stuff of stay at home and make outlet passes and physicality. that's not in Bones plans nor it appears in Jets plans at this time except as an extra body. He needs a full year of playing full time in an NHL season, then you will see what you really have in him, if he is not going to get it here, he deserves a chance elsewhere.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Feb 10, 2024 11:22:31 GMT -6
Gawanke (remember him?) has been waived by the Sharks with a buyout/ release in the plans. Not sure WTF happened there but he would be free to sign with whomever he wants wouldn't he? Stanley needs the same time and opportunity as Samberg had before they let him go. Heinola needs the same. Can hardly bitch about a player who is stuck in the press box. Let him play then there would be some substance to his criticism. Stanley is a -1 this year in 8 games and +12 in his career. Not horrible under the circumstances and last night -2 but the whole team stunk. I agree that he deserves an honest shot and if Winnipeg won't do it then someone will. Chara had the same issues took a while was traded then the light went on. I think because of this they have kept him around as long as they can which will probably be it this year as he will surely want out. Sure we'd love to see some of the other players but they need size you can't replace Dillon with even more small dmen. It's bad enough as is! Not that Stanley fights or even hits but at least he doesn't get smoked. Jets def need some grit as well fully agree. Stanley has had several fair shots and we need to stop comparing him to Chara. Chara was a unicorn, Stanley is just a big plodding guy who does not use his size. Stanley is closer to Adam Pardy than to Chara. He never developed as hoped, no big deal, happens all the time. Just look at the Laine draft year where there were no 'no brainers' - Matthews, Laine, Pulajarvi (sp) and PLD - 1 hit, 1 bust and 2 underperforming lethargic guys. 1/4, that is how the draft works out sometimes.
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Post by Rocky Mountain Jets Fan on Feb 10, 2024 12:10:21 GMT -6
Stanley is a -1 this year in 8 games and +12 in his career. Not horrible under the circumstances and last night -2 but the whole team stunk. I agree that he deserves an honest shot and if Winnipeg won't do it then someone will. Chara had the same issues took a while was traded then the light went on. I think because of this they have kept him around as long as they can which will probably be it this year as he will surely want out. Sure we'd love to see some of the other players but they need size you can't replace Dillon with even more small dmen. It's bad enough as is! Not that Stanley fights or even hits but at least he doesn't get smoked. Jets def need some grit as well fully agree. Stanley has had several fair shots and we need to stop comparing him to Chara. Chara was a unicorn, Stanley is just a big plodding guy who does not use his size. Stanley is closer to Adam Pardy than to Chara. He never developed as hoped, no big deal, happens all the time. Just look at the Laine draft year where there were no 'no brainers' - Matthews, Laine, Pulajarvi (sp) and PLD - 1 hit, 1 bust and 2 underperforming lethargic guys. 1/4, that is how the draft works out sometimes. No one is saying he's going to be Chara but if he eventually develops into something half as good he can be a key piece of your top six. Especially since size does matter on a smallish Winnipeg D. I remember him having a decent season when injuries hit. He never really was given an honest chance after fair or not. Either way most of us can agree this team needs more size on the back end and yet you have a large man not playing. Something has to give as Schmidt isn't the answer...
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Post by 2b9 on Feb 10, 2024 14:56:18 GMT -6
Stanley has had several fair shots and we need to stop comparing him to Chara. Chara was a unicorn, Stanley is just a big plodding guy who does not use his size. Stanley is closer to Adam Pardy than to Chara. He never developed as hoped, no big deal, happens all the time. Just look at the Laine draft year where there were no 'no brainers' - Matthews, Laine, Pulajarvi (sp) and PLD - 1 hit, 1 bust and 2 underperforming lethargic guys. 1/4, that is how the draft works out sometimes. No one is saying he's going to be Chara but if he eventually develops into something half as good he can be a key piece of your top six. Especially since size does matter on a smallish Winnipeg D. I remember him having a decent season when injuries hit. He never really was given an honest chance after fair or not. Either way most of us can agree this team needs more size on the back end and yet you have a large man not playing. Something has to give as Schmidt isn't the answer... Wonder if something happens between now and the trade deadline. I’m sure Chevy is working the phones.
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Post by Rocky Mountain Jets Fan on Feb 10, 2024 15:06:13 GMT -6
No one is saying he's going to be Chara but if he eventually develops into something half as good he can be a key piece of your top six. Especially since size does matter on a smallish Winnipeg D. I remember him having a decent season when injuries hit. He never really was given an honest chance after fair or not. Either way most of us can agree this team needs more size on the back end and yet you have a large man not playing. Something has to give as Schmidt isn't the answer... Wonder if something happens between now and the trade deadline. I’m sure Chevy is working the phones. There has to be a team that would want to give him a good shot. Has to be some value or they would have waived him to the minors at some point. I guess he has a three game trial but like I said you know what Schmidt already brings why not give the guy one last shot now? It's not like Schmidt is the answer on the PP or Pk!
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Post by 2b9 on Feb 10, 2024 15:13:13 GMT -6
Wonder if something happens between now and the trade deadline. I’m sure Chevy is working the phones. There has to be a team that would want to give him a good shot. Has to be some value or they would have waived him to the minors at some point. I guess he has a three game trial but like I said you know what Schmidt already brings why not give the guy one last shot now? It's not like Schmidt is the answer on the PP or Pk! I agree with you👍.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Feb 10, 2024 17:00:27 GMT -6
Stanley is a -1 this year in 8 games and +12 in his career. Not horrible under the circumstances and last night -2 but the whole team stunk. I agree that he deserves an honest shot and if Winnipeg won't do it then someone will. Chara had the same issues took a while was traded then the light went on. I think because of this they have kept him around as long as they can which will probably be it this year as he will surely want out. Sure we'd love to see some of the other players but they need size you can't replace Dillon with even more small dmen. It's bad enough as is! Not that Stanley fights or even hits but at least he doesn't get smoked. Jets def need some grit as well fully agree. Stanley has had several fair shots and we need to stop comparing him to Chara. Chara was a unicorn, Stanley is just a big plodding guy who does not use his size. Stanley is closer to Adam Pardy than to Chara. He never developed as hoped, no big deal, happens all the time. Just look at the Laine draft year where there were no 'no brainers' - Matthews, Laine, Pulajarvi (sp) and PLD - 1 hit, 1 bust and 2 underperforming lethargic guys. 1/4, that is how the draft works out sometimes. Agreed. Stanley has been given ample opportunity. I'll mention a couple of guys that weren't. Kovacevic and Chisholm. Both drafted, developed and gone. Quality late round picks. If we're looking to upgrade the 3rd pairing right side, a right shot Kovacevic could have been pretty good. We'll never know. I expect Chisholm to be a regular before long. I've read that the Wild have some issues on the back end. It'll be interesting to watch him. In the meantime, we still have big Stan.
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