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Post by Rocky Mountain Jets Fan on Apr 23, 2024 22:40:24 GMT -6
Really 3 bad or unlucky goals. It was never going to be easy they just have to battle on the road which they can. Monny and Tofolli have to wake up.
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Post by Ric O. on Apr 23, 2024 22:42:15 GMT -6
The 2 gift goals that were given up have to be deflating. But, there was lots of game left and I didn't see much push back to get excited about. I thought they kind of caved. I'm not optimistic. See you guys next game. Agree, says a lot about the fragility of the Jets that they didn't show push back after a little adversity...like the whole team was shaken to the core. And of course the crowd was no doubt having Helle playoff flashbacks, atmosphere sounded pretty dead after that 3-2 goal.
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Post by lenny on Apr 23, 2024 22:43:27 GMT -6
Jets outplayed for most of the two games. Outgoaled 10-9. Avs #1 offensive team look like it. Jets 1 defensive team looked more like a team depending heavily on Helle and the "system" as porous as a sponge. Sucking up multiple shots.
Now let's see if the Jets can find their game because Avs have certainly found theirs.
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Post by Ric O. on Apr 23, 2024 22:53:48 GMT -6
If Helly didnt resign last summer, Broissoit would have been good enough to be our starter, hes also good enough that we probably lose him in the offseason..... I say play him, let him win or lose, give Hellybuck game 4 to reestablish himself, that Bs about you just gotta make one more save then the other guy is a crock, I can't say I disagree with you...10 goals against in 2 games isn't good, which I strangely may have been on the fence about if I had not watched most of that TB/FLA game and the goaltending on display there. Those guys just seem to grow in the playoffs! Helle kept the Jets in the game in game 1 until Jets figured out how to play, and he did early today too...but yeah 10 goals!
Brossoit could very well win the next game if we put him in...but no chance it happens... Helle's their guy through thick and thin, better or worse. Just need to hope he got the weak/giveaway goals out of his system.
Still a long way to go. No matter who we have in net, Jets can for sure still win this if they don't quit.
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Post by babs44 on Apr 24, 2024 5:23:12 GMT -6
2 glaring things for me. Helly back to giving the puck away. The PP bites them in the ass again. They are very lucky to be even at this point.
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Post by Tracker on Apr 24, 2024 8:39:44 GMT -6
I wasn't able to watch the game until this morning and a few things jumped out at me. Firstly, Hellebuyck looked a lot like he did last year in the playoffs- okay but not Vezina caliber. There were two goals which decided the game and both were highly preventable. Hellebuyck's brain-dead gaffe behind his net and Manson's breakaway goal. Hellebuyck had a problem a few years ago about wandering around and abandoning his net and I thought he had fixed that, but I guess not. Manson's goal was all on Valardi. Valardi had primary responsibility for Manson and somehow did...nothing. The last rant I have reserved for Toffoli. Chevy paid a high price for him and his record indicates that he ought to have been a difference-maker, particularly in the playoff, but he has been out-performed by Namestnikov and Iafalo, to name only two. He has not stood out in any positive way and Perfetti ought to replace him, and Perfetti is no star. Jets are in trouble. Hellebuyck should have been a star but he has let his team down. The two five-hole goals he let in were due to rookie mistakes- he ought to have had his paddle down to cover but lifter it instead for God knows what reason.
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Post by ekjet72 on Apr 24, 2024 9:18:49 GMT -6
Well.. I guess all that ragging on avs goalie from the whole world has helped him tonight. I think you have something there. We may have ragged him into superstardom. Changed his life. Sarge, Darlyn and Lenny, remember Samsonov he was down and out. He was so down he couldn't lace his hockey skates without help. Didn't see his reflection in the mirror. He was up and down in the minors. No confidence they said. Well we, the Jets, fixed that. He shows up in Winnipeg a shattered goalie and leaves a Vesnia candidate. A great 1-0 OT win. Now he's beating up Boston. Anyways the rag can last a long time as well! We shall see if it has the ultimate paradoxical effect on what's his name as well? Maybe we could complement Georgi for the good work he did last night and knock him of his pedestal.
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Post by Tracker on Apr 24, 2024 9:56:06 GMT -6
I think you have something there. We may have ragged him into superstardom. Changed his life. Sarge, Darlyn and Lenny, remember Samsonov he was down and out. He was so down he couldn't lace his hockey skates without help. Didn't see his reflection in the mirror. He was up and down in the minors. No confidence they said. Well we, the Jets, fixed that. He shows up in Winnipeg a shattered goalie and leaves a Vesnia candidate. A great 1-0 OT win. Now he's beating up Boston. Anyways the rag can last a long time as well! We shall see if it has the ultimate paradoxical effect on what's his name as well? Maybe we could complement Georgi for the good work he did last night and knock him of his pedestal. Personally, I could not care less about Georgiev- during the regular season, he was the third-worst goalie in the league, and that will resurface. I am concerned about Hellebuyck. He looks nothing like he did in the first half of the season and I wonder if he is just burned out after too many starts. If so, there is no quick fix in time to save the playoffs unless the training staff has about 2 kilos of high-grade crank and a big bore IV needle. As Hellebuyck goes, so the team goes. If the Jets lose on Friday, their season is effectively over and the coaching is to blame. Yes, Hellebuyck wanted to start every game, but Wade Flaherty ought to have been astute enough to bench him regularly and now there is nothing to be done except maybe to start Brossoit and perhaps shatter Hellebuyck's confidence.
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 24, 2024 10:34:35 GMT -6
Sarge, Darlyn and Lenny, remember Samsonov he was down and out. He was so down he couldn't lace his hockey skates without help. Didn't see his reflection in the mirror. He was up and down in the minors. No confidence they said. Well we, the Jets, fixed that. He shows up in Winnipeg a shattered goalie and leaves a Vesnia candidate. A great 1-0 OT win. Now he's beating up Boston. Anyways the rag can last a long time as well! We shall see if it has the ultimate paradoxical effect on what's his name as well? Maybe we could complement Georgi for the good work he did last night and knock him of his pedestal. Personally, I could not care less about Georgiev- during the regular season, he was the third-worstย goalie in the league, and that will resurface. I am concerned about Hellebuyck. He looks nothing like he did in the first half of the season and I wonder if he is just burned out after too many starts. If so, there is no quick fix in time to save the playoffs unless the training staff has about 2 kilos of high-grade crank and a big bore IV needle. As Hellebuyck goes, so the team goes. If the Jets lose on Friday, their season is effectively over and the coaching is to blame. Yes, Hellebuyck wanted to start every game, but Wade Flaherty ought to have been astute enough to bench him regularly and now there is nothing to be done except maybe to start Brossoit and perhaps shatter Hellebuyck's confidence. Optimal amount of starts for Helle during the Regular Season should be no more than 56-57 games. Just my thoughts and opinion. 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by lenny on Apr 24, 2024 16:57:34 GMT -6
Sarge, Darlyn and Lenny, remember Samsonov he was down and out. He was so down he couldn't lace his hockey skates without help. Didn't see his reflection in the mirror. He was up and down in the minors. No confidence they said. Well we, the Jets, fixed that. He shows up in Winnipeg a shattered goalie and leaves a Vesnia candidate. A great 1-0 OT win. Now he's beating up Boston. Anyways the rag can last a long time as well! We shall see if it has the ultimate paradoxical effect on what's his name as well? Maybe we could complement Georgi for the good work he did last night and knock him of his pedestal. Personally, I could not care less about Georgiev- during the regular season, he was the third-worstย goalie in the league, and that will resurface. I am concerned about Hellebuyck. He looks nothing like he did in the first half of the season and I wonder if he is just burned out after too many starts. If so, there is no quick fix in time to save the playoffs unless the training staff has about 2 kilos of high-grade crank and a big bore IV needle. As Hellebuyck goes, so the team goes. If the Jets lose on Friday, their season is effectively over and the coaching is to blame. Yes, Hellebuyck wanted to start every game, but Wade Flaherty ought to have been astute enough to bench him regularly and now there is nothing to be done except maybe to start Brossoit and perhaps shatter Hellebuyck's confidence. You probably noticed at the end of the game I'm not sure who it was on the panel or colorman noted Helle's less than sterling playoff history.
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 24, 2024 17:42:33 GMT -6
Personally, I could not care less about Georgiev- during the regular season, he was the third-worstย goalie in the league, and that will resurface. I am concerned about Hellebuyck. He looks nothing like he did in the first half of the season and I wonder if he is just burned out after too many starts. If so, there is no quick fix in time to save the playoffs unless the training staff has about 2 kilos of high-grade crank and a big bore IV needle. As Hellebuyck goes, so the team goes. If the Jets lose on Friday, their season is effectively over and the coaching is to blame. Yes, Hellebuyck wanted to start every game, but Wade Flaherty ought to have been astute enough to bench him regularly and now there is nothing to be done except maybe to start Brossoit and perhaps shatter Hellebuyck's confidence. You probably noticed at the end of the game I'm not sure who it was on the panel or colorman noted Helle's less than sterling playoff history. As Iโve said before and most recently, Helle is over-played during the Regular Season. Just my thoughts and opinion๐. Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by ovi1 on Apr 24, 2024 18:10:51 GMT -6
Jets outplayed for most of the two games. Outgoaled 10-9. Avs #1 offensive team look like it. Jets 1 defensive team looked more like a team depending heavily on Helle and the "system" as porous as a sponge. Sucking up multiple shots. Now let's see if the Jets can find their game because Avs have certainly found theirs. yes the Jets had no business winning game 1 either. Avs have another level that we don't and Helly is being helly.....crappy in the playoffs.
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 24, 2024 19:03:36 GMT -6
Off to Denver, hopefully the Jets have a bounce back game on Friday and win the game.
Helle has to be better, the โWhole Teamโ has to be better.
It ainโt over yet, theyโve got a couple of days until the next game, enough time for a reset.
Cโmon Jets, get it together.
GO JETS GO๐๐๐๐
Cheers,
2b9๐๐๐
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Post by 2b9 on Apr 24, 2024 20:05:38 GMT -6
Just saying what Iโm experiencing, cutting in and out here. The other site that I participate on, no issues. Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐ I think I signed up to your site awhile ago but... (no laughing at me)... I cannot remember the site or where I put the info....lol jk. Argh... can you help me out 2b9? Hey D๐: When I responded to your request for help, I mentioned that BOJA is with myself and Padre over at: Arctic Ice Hockey Forgot to mention to you that BOJA stands for: Bigoljetairliner I just wanted to be clear on whom BOJA is here and also over at: Arctic Ice Hockey Cheers, 2b9๐๐๐
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Post by shaniel on Apr 24, 2024 21:46:24 GMT -6
Iโve not read this Tuesday entirely so apologies if this has come up. I feel like Hells is one of our lesser problems. Iโm wondering if Ehlers is ever gonna show up for a playoff series and do something other than his dingle dangle routine. Toffoli is invisible. Also, Stanley has been tentative and sloppy! If he is playing primarily cause of his physical impact, whenโs he gonna start using it? Heโs a liability against this crazy skill and speedy Avs team.
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