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Post by 2b9 on Jun 20, 2024 7:26:14 GMT -6
With respect, I had to kind of do a double take when I read this. Without being sure whether you were joking or not. Then I kind of figured out that you had to be. Good one. F I N A L L Y !!!! LMAO 😉 Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by sgtbarnes on Jun 20, 2024 16:23:28 GMT -6
As did the team defence in front of him. Not all on him. Absolutely not all on him. Probably the complaint anyone would have is that he does not seem to noticeably raise his level in the playoffs. I'm not sure if another level is truly a thing or if it just seems like some goalies just reach another level when the games become more important. I think not many would question he's a great regular season goalie but, this is just me thinking out loud, it could very well be that he just doesn't have a level above that. Take that a little further. Is it the ability to raise your level for the playoffs? Or, to maintain that level when the guys coming at you have raised theirs, considerably? Is it the same thing. Dunno. Goaltending is more cerebral than skating. It's not like being a skater where you can battle harder and be more physical. The game comes to a goalie. He doesn't take it to the opponent. In a long winded way what I'm saying is that sometimes the best athletes wilt under playoff pressure. Im talking mental toughness here. Possibly, Hellebuyck will never be a Stanley Cup goaltender. He's showed so far he's not at his best when it matters the most.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Jun 21, 2024 7:35:17 GMT -6
Absolutely not all on him. Probably the complaint anyone would have is that he does not seem to noticeably raise his level in the playoffs. I'm not sure if another level is truly a thing or if it just seems like some goalies just reach another level when the games become more important. I think not many would question he's a great regular season goalie but, this is just me thinking out loud, it could very well be that he just doesn't have a level above that. Take that a little further. Is it the ability to raise your level for the playoffs? Or, to maintain that level when the guys coming at you have raised theirs, considerably? Is it the same thing. Dunno. Goaltending is more cerebral than skating. It's not like being a skater where you can battle harder and be more physical. The game comes to a goalie. He doesn't take it to the opponent. In a long winded way what I'm saying is that sometimes the best athletes wilt under playoff pressure. Im talking mental toughness here. Possibly, Hellebuyck will never be a Stanley Cup goaltender. He's showed so far he's not at his best when it matters the most. This is unfortunately true at the moment. In fact , more than a few Jets have not performed well in the playoffs which is really the issue. It is one thing to talk about raising your game , it is another to do it. As an old Bruins fan, I recall that gerry Cheevers used to be 'good' during the regular season but much better in the playoffs. Grant Fuhr as well.
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Post by 2b9 on Jun 21, 2024 8:22:10 GMT -6
Take that a little further. Is it the ability to raise your level for the playoffs? Or, to maintain that level when the guys coming at you have raised theirs, considerably? Is it the same thing. Dunno. Goaltending is more cerebral than skating. It's not like being a skater where you can battle harder and be more physical. The game comes to a goalie. He doesn't take it to the opponent. In a long winded way what I'm saying is that sometimes the best athletes wilt under playoff pressure. Im talking mental toughness here. Possibly, Hellebuyck will never be a Stanley Cup goaltender. He's showed so far he's not at his best when it matters the most. This is unfortunately true at the moment. In fact , more than a few Jets have not performed well in the playoffs which is really the issue. It is one thing to talk about raising your game , it is another to do it. As an old Bruins fan, I recall that gerry Cheevers used to be 'good' during the regular season but much better in the playoffs. Grant Fuhr as well. 👍 Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by bigoljetairliner on Jun 21, 2024 10:14:49 GMT -6
Take that a little further. Is it the ability to raise your level for the playoffs? Or, to maintain that level when the guys coming at you have raised theirs, considerably? Is it the same thing. Dunno. Goaltending is more cerebral than skating. It's not like being a skater where you can battle harder and be more physical. The game comes to a goalie. He doesn't take it to the opponent. In a long winded way what I'm saying is that sometimes the best athletes wilt under playoff pressure. Im talking mental toughness here. Possibly, Hellebuyck will never be a Stanley Cup goaltender. He's showed so far he's not at his best when it matters the most. This is unfortunately true at the moment. In fact , more than a few Jets have not performed well in the playoffs which is really the issue. It is one thing to talk about raising your game , it is another to do it. As an old Bruins fan, I recall that gerry Cheevers used to be 'good' during the regular season but much better in the playoffs. Grant Fuhr as well. Those two examples were great reaction goaltenders, which is not Bucky's style of play. He's more like Ken Dryden and he typically played about the same elite level in the regular season & in the playoffs. So I don't think Hellebuyck needs to up his game come the post-season, he just needs to maintain the level from the regular season. The rest of the team needs to play much better to give the Jets a chance to win. Just my thoughts anyways.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Jun 21, 2024 11:01:40 GMT -6
This is unfortunately true at the moment. In fact , more than a few Jets have not performed well in the playoffs which is really the issue. It is one thing to talk about raising your game , it is another to do it. As an old Bruins fan, I recall that gerry Cheevers used to be 'good' during the regular season but much better in the playoffs. Grant Fuhr as well. Those two examples were great reaction goaltenders, which is not Bucky's style of play. He's more like Ken Dryden and he typically played about the same elite level in the regular season & in the playoffs. So I don't think Hellebuyck needs to up his game come the post-season, he just needs to maintain the level from the regular season. The rest of the team needs to play much better to give the Jets a chance to win. Just my thoughts anyways. Good point. Cheevers though had the greatest mask lol.
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Post by 2b9 on Jun 21, 2024 11:30:50 GMT -6
This is unfortunately true at the moment. In fact , more than a few Jets have not performed well in the playoffs which is really the issue. It is one thing to talk about raising your game , it is another to do it. As an old Bruins fan, I recall that gerry Cheevers used to be 'good' during the regular season but much better in the playoffs. Grant Fuhr as well. Those two examples were great reaction goaltenders, which is not Bucky's style of play. He's more like Ken Dryden and he typically played about the same elite level in the regular season & in the playoffs. So I don't think Hellebuyck needs to up his game come the post-season, he just needs to maintain the level from the regular season. The rest of the team needs to play much better to give the Jets a chance to win. Just my thoughts anyways. 👍 Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by 2b9 on Jun 21, 2024 11:31:58 GMT -6
Those two examples were great reaction goaltenders, which is not Bucky's style of play. He's more like Ken Dryden and he typically played about the same elite level in the regular season & in the playoffs. So I don't think Hellebuyck needs to up his game come the post-season, he just needs to maintain the level from the regular season. The rest of the team needs to play much better to give the Jets a chance to win. Just my thoughts anyways. Good point. Cheevers though had the greatest mask lol. Yes, loved his mask/Cheevers. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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