Post by whiteoutnation on Sept 30, 2011 11:25:29 GMT -6
Hi Jets Fans
We have a few spots left open for our 20th year for those that want a local NHL pool with general manager-like interaction. We are looking to finalize committments by Thursday October 6th so that the teams can be ready to draft as many players as needed.
Send me a email (chris "at" WhiteOutNation.com) or PM if you are interested or want to know more!
Thanks
Chris
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I have attached two recent emails that I sent out recently that explain how the pool works:
Good Day General Managers, past General Managers and 'Potential' General Managers!
Welcome and Welcome Back !!
Special Greetings to Mike, Alex, Darren, Duncan, Ken and Phil long time "fraternity members of the cult of the return of the NHL"!
We are making some exciting changes for the 20th season of GOHL!
By far the biggest change is that we have partnered with Fantrax.com to fully automate our league.
Yes I am finally getting out of the business of doing stats !!
Fantrax.com is able to take our unique league and customize their website to match the workings of GOHL.
The cost for such is under $100 per season.
GOHL has a $20 entry fee which is collected and given to a charity each season. The bragging rights are usually more than enough of a prize for general managers to flex their muscle! However, side bets between clubs is encouraged but not mandatory.
The results of GOHL are based only on regular season stats and we will likely run a playoff pool for those interested. It is usually entirely separate though.
We are planning our season draft on Saturday October 8th, the day before the Jets start their regular season.
If we meet around 5:30 or 6pm at a local watering hole TBA, we can wrap up the draft by around 9 to 10pm. If later is better then I'm open to that too!
What better way to celebrate the return of the NHL that weekend than to start the race for GOHL bragging rights!
We will present the Final Stats for 2010-11 GOHL season and present the Champion his trophy. And as his first offical duty, he will present the Horse Hindmost to the club that has seen . . . well, how shall we say . . . better days.
Mike has also indicated that some of the other fellows from Jetsowner.com forum days might be interested in joining. (Feel free to update the info on Jets Hockey Forum Mike!)
So it is suggested for all clubs to prepare for a draft of up to 12 teams for the upcoming season. Given 12F, 6D and 2G on each active roster plus an additional 4 spares per team, roughly 288 NHLers will be selected, with an additional 60 being drafted at the All Star Break Draft (or Superbowl Sunday?) as a supplemental draft to help clubs as they enter the stretch run to win it all.
As an example of how the league works please flip through the tabs of the attached excel spreadsheet which are the Final Stats from a previous season 2010-11 to get a broad sense as to how the pool works and teams amass points "by formula". For those potentially new General Managers, I able to send a more detailed explanation via a separate email if you are interested.
If you have a buddy that might be interested then by all means forward this to them, as there is no better way to build excitement than to know your reputation and pride is on the line!!
I will need your committment by late evening of Thursday Oct 6th, to be fair to those clubs preparing for the draft.
All The Best!
Chris
Commissioner, GOHL
20 years: 1991 - 2011
~~~
Hello General Managers!
Thanks Mike for posting the info about GOHL here!
let's answer a couple of questions:
A team's total number of points,
Net Total Points = (Active formula of 12F + Active forumla of 6D) subtract (Team GAA x 85)
for the active 18 skaters,
Individual formula = (Pts) + (Plus/Minus) - (PIM/10)
for the 2 goalies, the number of minutes played while active and the number of goals allowed while active calculate the team GAA.
Obviously you want the lowest GAA possible so that you are subtracting the fewest points away from your team. Note: The multiplier of 85 was used to "balance" the value of goalies versus the rest of the team's roster. Over the years, we have found that this seems to value goalies properly.
PIM hurts a hockey club. Why? because usually a Powerplay scores 1 in 5 chances. So for every 10 minutes in the sin bin, your player is costing his team one goal on ice. Thus we take PIM divided by 10 and subtract that off their scoring.
Plus/Minus is a real nightmare for some forwards that can't or won't learn to backcheck. This usually separates the one dimensional forward from the well-rounded player than can really boost their team's success. This also implies that certain teams generally are avoided due to the poor plus/minus exposure their roster faces. Non playoff teams beware!
We also draft 4 spares that start the season on your "farm" team down in say Vancouver! (ahh it's nice to have the Jets again!)
They don't accumulate any points on the farm for you, but are there in case your active players get injured or just plain underperform. This hockey pool tries to mimick exactly what a GM goes through: trade him? bench him? wait until his value comes around again?
So when you send a player down you must bring up a player of the same position. And the points counted up to then for the active player are locked at those numbers. Similarly, the farm hand just coming up starts with zero points accumulated to start with. (You'll notice on the Excel sheet for each team a line of negative numbers: Because newspapers and stats are always counting up from the start of the season, we use the negative line to show WHEN the player was brought up. The difference between both lines of stats is the accumulated formula he has done for his club while active.)
The same thing is true when you trade a player: you aren't trading his accumulated points with him, they stay behind with the club where he earned them.
All of this can be made alot clearer just by seeing a copy of the Excel-based stats. All of the calculations will make much easier than trying to read all of my text here. Mike or myself have the stats, so just give us a PM with your email address to receive a copy.
All the best!
Chris
Email: Chris "at" WhiteOutNation.com
We have a few spots left open for our 20th year for those that want a local NHL pool with general manager-like interaction. We are looking to finalize committments by Thursday October 6th so that the teams can be ready to draft as many players as needed.
Send me a email (chris "at" WhiteOutNation.com) or PM if you are interested or want to know more!
Thanks
Chris
~~~
I have attached two recent emails that I sent out recently that explain how the pool works:
Good Day General Managers, past General Managers and 'Potential' General Managers!
Welcome and Welcome Back !!
Special Greetings to Mike, Alex, Darren, Duncan, Ken and Phil long time "fraternity members of the cult of the return of the NHL"!
We are making some exciting changes for the 20th season of GOHL!
By far the biggest change is that we have partnered with Fantrax.com to fully automate our league.
Yes I am finally getting out of the business of doing stats !!
Fantrax.com is able to take our unique league and customize their website to match the workings of GOHL.
The cost for such is under $100 per season.
GOHL has a $20 entry fee which is collected and given to a charity each season. The bragging rights are usually more than enough of a prize for general managers to flex their muscle! However, side bets between clubs is encouraged but not mandatory.
The results of GOHL are based only on regular season stats and we will likely run a playoff pool for those interested. It is usually entirely separate though.
We are planning our season draft on Saturday October 8th, the day before the Jets start their regular season.
If we meet around 5:30 or 6pm at a local watering hole TBA, we can wrap up the draft by around 9 to 10pm. If later is better then I'm open to that too!
What better way to celebrate the return of the NHL that weekend than to start the race for GOHL bragging rights!
We will present the Final Stats for 2010-11 GOHL season and present the Champion his trophy. And as his first offical duty, he will present the Horse Hindmost to the club that has seen . . . well, how shall we say . . . better days.
Mike has also indicated that some of the other fellows from Jetsowner.com forum days might be interested in joining. (Feel free to update the info on Jets Hockey Forum Mike!)
So it is suggested for all clubs to prepare for a draft of up to 12 teams for the upcoming season. Given 12F, 6D and 2G on each active roster plus an additional 4 spares per team, roughly 288 NHLers will be selected, with an additional 60 being drafted at the All Star Break Draft (or Superbowl Sunday?) as a supplemental draft to help clubs as they enter the stretch run to win it all.
As an example of how the league works please flip through the tabs of the attached excel spreadsheet which are the Final Stats from a previous season 2010-11 to get a broad sense as to how the pool works and teams amass points "by formula". For those potentially new General Managers, I able to send a more detailed explanation via a separate email if you are interested.
If you have a buddy that might be interested then by all means forward this to them, as there is no better way to build excitement than to know your reputation and pride is on the line!!
I will need your committment by late evening of Thursday Oct 6th, to be fair to those clubs preparing for the draft.
All The Best!
Chris
Commissioner, GOHL
20 years: 1991 - 2011
~~~
Hello General Managers!
Thanks Mike for posting the info about GOHL here!
let's answer a couple of questions:
A team's total number of points,
Net Total Points = (Active formula of 12F + Active forumla of 6D) subtract (Team GAA x 85)
for the active 18 skaters,
Individual formula = (Pts) + (Plus/Minus) - (PIM/10)
for the 2 goalies, the number of minutes played while active and the number of goals allowed while active calculate the team GAA.
Obviously you want the lowest GAA possible so that you are subtracting the fewest points away from your team. Note: The multiplier of 85 was used to "balance" the value of goalies versus the rest of the team's roster. Over the years, we have found that this seems to value goalies properly.
PIM hurts a hockey club. Why? because usually a Powerplay scores 1 in 5 chances. So for every 10 minutes in the sin bin, your player is costing his team one goal on ice. Thus we take PIM divided by 10 and subtract that off their scoring.
Plus/Minus is a real nightmare for some forwards that can't or won't learn to backcheck. This usually separates the one dimensional forward from the well-rounded player than can really boost their team's success. This also implies that certain teams generally are avoided due to the poor plus/minus exposure their roster faces. Non playoff teams beware!
We also draft 4 spares that start the season on your "farm" team down in say Vancouver! (ahh it's nice to have the Jets again!)
They don't accumulate any points on the farm for you, but are there in case your active players get injured or just plain underperform. This hockey pool tries to mimick exactly what a GM goes through: trade him? bench him? wait until his value comes around again?
So when you send a player down you must bring up a player of the same position. And the points counted up to then for the active player are locked at those numbers. Similarly, the farm hand just coming up starts with zero points accumulated to start with. (You'll notice on the Excel sheet for each team a line of negative numbers: Because newspapers and stats are always counting up from the start of the season, we use the negative line to show WHEN the player was brought up. The difference between both lines of stats is the accumulated formula he has done for his club while active.)
The same thing is true when you trade a player: you aren't trading his accumulated points with him, they stay behind with the club where he earned them.
All of this can be made alot clearer just by seeing a copy of the Excel-based stats. All of the calculations will make much easier than trying to read all of my text here. Mike or myself have the stats, so just give us a PM with your email address to receive a copy.
All the best!
Chris
Email: Chris "at" WhiteOutNation.com