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Post by Tim on Jan 25, 2012 16:12:53 GMT -6
Fergie had some good days and some bad, Hawerchuck and Teemu oh ya Fergie picks, and he wore the Jets name on his ass and in his Heart, so bashing Fergie in my eyes as a Jets fan, not cool and I will stand up and say, I was more then happy to watch Morris Lukowich play in a Jets uniform, he was a class act and some players could have leaned a few things from a guy like him! If Wade Campbell did not have such a bad heath issue (Asthma) he would have been a much better player. I loved the 80's Jets If you followed back then, at one point we had probably the second best team in the league for a couple of years, to bad the Oilers were in our division, and I love even more are new team. All I expressed was the team needs some help and the draft is the best way, I would never throw a game and this team is doing a good job of it on there own. I've waited 15 years to have this back all I'm saying I am patient enough to wait for us to build a team of our own, and to trade guys like Kane, Buff, Zach, would be counter productive they are the teams future along with some new guys not named yet.. loved your post and have to admire your loyalty to the late great John F ! Morris was a great jet ( 65 goals in last WHA year ) i loved the 80's jets. my point is seconded place was fun but seeing a small western Canada city win many cups (one without #99) still hurts and so never tank always try to win the game Hey I want us to win so bad it hurts, when the Jets left I stopped watching NHL hockey I gave up my religion. Now I'm born again and I haven't missed a game except when I was in Vancouver for Grey Cup, and we almost started a riot at the bar because they wouldn't put on the game. Point is nothing more hen I like to see is this team be successful, but I know better, and we need to rebuild and I'm good with that, that what I like about the draft nothing but great expectations without baggage in most cases. Yes I am loyal to Fergie, and the old and new NHL team thats what real fans do, but I can't say that about Mike Smith!
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Post by hobble on Jan 25, 2012 16:13:25 GMT -6
I think if the Jets are thinking about the future then for sure they are active at the deadline. We have UFA's that can be moved. Our pending UFA's: Jim Slater Tanner Glass Kyle Wellwood Tim Stapleton Johnny Oduya Mark Flood Randy Jones Chris Mason And two players who are UFA's in 2013 and make too much: Antropov Hainsey Of the UFA's, the Jets will have to decide who they want to re-sign, who they are sure they can re-sign and who has value in trades. Thoughts? Hope they re-sign Mason, Flood, Slater, Glass and maybe Wellwood.
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Post by Tim on Jan 25, 2012 16:15:51 GMT -6
I think if the Jets are thinking about the future then for sure they are active at the deadline. We have UFA's that can be moved. Our pending UFA's: Jim Slater Tanner Glass Kyle Wellwood Tim Stapleton Johnny Oduya Mark Flood Randy Jones Chris Mason And two players who are UFA's in 2013 and make too much: Antropov Hainsey Of the UFA's, the Jets will have to decide who they want to re-sign, who they are sure they can re-sign and who has value in trades. Thoughts? Hope they re-sign Mason, Flood, Slater, Glass and maybe Wellwood. Can't see Mason not signing, hell he spent enough money on those new pads. ;D
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Post by enarwpg on Jan 25, 2012 16:24:01 GMT -6
With the win percentage being what it is up to this point (22 wins out of 50 games or 44%) and the horrible win percentage in January (3wins out of 12 games or 25%) I highly doubt the Jets are making the playoffs this season. With the dismal number of goals of late there is absolutely no way they're moving up in the standings.
The Jets have 50 points with 32 games left. To get into the playoffs they need what 90 points or 40 more in the 32 games remaining? 40 divided by 2 points per game equals 20 wins out of the remaining 32 games or they have to win 62.5 % of the remaining games.....
Sadly I can't see it happening !
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Post by hobble on Jan 25, 2012 16:26:04 GMT -6
Need to upgrade on Thorburn though. He may bring physicality, but he brings nothing in the offensive department.
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Post by LTZ on Jan 25, 2012 16:29:24 GMT -6
I'd like them to try to win. I want them to put out a hard effort every game. If they do that and still lose, so be it.
I'd rather trust the scouting staff to find the best pick available to them, than tank for an earlier pick that may not even work out. Remember Alex Daigle, Patrick Stefan...there are more.
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Post by Tim on Jan 25, 2012 16:30:43 GMT -6
Need to upgrade on Thorburn though. He may bring physicality, but he brings nothing in the offensive department. That the problem with a handful of the guys, the funny thing is are 3rd and 4th line can hang with any of the top 3rd and 4th lines in the league.
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Post by royalwoodjet on Jan 25, 2012 16:45:48 GMT -6
The Jets need skill and size. Boston, Chi, Vcr and Phil are built that way. That means soft players like Wellwood, Stapleton, Miettenen need to go. Little and Enstrom are soft too, but you can have a few guys like that.
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Post by Tim on Jan 25, 2012 17:00:13 GMT -6
The Jets need skill and size. Boston, Chi, Vcr and Phil are built that way. That means soft players like Wellwood, Stapleton, Miettenen need to go. Little and Enstrom are soft too, but you can have a few guys like that. Glad you said it!
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Jan 25, 2012 17:19:36 GMT -6
I like Stapleton as a utility guy. He's good in all situations and can put the puck in the net from time to time.
I'd be looking at Oduya as trade bait at the deadline and either of Antropov or Hainsey if a team is willing to eat their salary for an extra year to get playoff help this year. Also Randy Jones depending on where the Jets think they are D-wise. I know they like him but they dont want to lose Flood either and Flood isnt going to resign if he thinks he'll be in the press box half the season.
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Post by Jetsfan47 on Jan 25, 2012 17:40:58 GMT -6
a good example is one of my most hated teams the Edmonton Oilers, back to back #1 picks their future looks scary good it might be a rough patch now for them but its only going to get better. I'm not saying tank the season and I want the Jets to win every game but I could live with a couple of bad seasons to secure some more young guns on our team
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Post by Guardian on Jan 25, 2012 18:33:09 GMT -6
Simple Question: Do we want to be Calgary or do we want to be Chicago?!?Finishing 9th or 10th won't benefit anyone. Better to tank this season when you have guaranteed sell-outs, and then draft your future superstars. Excellent analogy. The Flames are good enough to maybe make the playoffs and lose in the first round. Drafting superstars requires futility so we get lottery picks. Unless your Toronto and you get Kessel for a second over all first round pick!
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Post by staceyleigh6387 on Jan 25, 2012 18:44:14 GMT -6
I like Stapleton as a utility guy. He's good in all situations and can put the puck in the net from time to time. I'd be looking at Oduya as trade bait at the deadline and either of Antropov or Hainsey if a team is willing to eat their salary for an extra year to get playoff help this year. Also Randy Jones depending on where the Jets think they are D-wise. I know they like him but they dont want to lose Flood either and Flood isnt going to resign if he thinks he'll be in the press box half the season. Um i don't see the Jets trading Johnny Oduya around the deadline, i really do think 100% the Jets would get rid of Randy Jones, Randy Jones hasn't improve at all this season, Johnny Oduya has improve all yr, except beginning of the yr.
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Post by therocket on Jan 25, 2012 19:27:15 GMT -6
the way things are going lately they may not have to worry about tanking. and it was Scott Campbell, not Wade Campbell that was protected from the expansion draft back in 'ol '79.
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Jan 25, 2012 19:44:05 GMT -6
If they didnt like Randy Jones, he wouldnt be playing ahead of Mark Flood.
If they think Oduya might bolt in the off-season, then they should trade him at the deadline and get a pick for him.
One has to take into account how many solid picks the Thrashers already earned. There is no reason to expect us to tank the season. We have lots of young guns on our team. Let them mature and grow as a team while adding some key cogs through free agency or timely trades.
Its why I suggested a guy like Parise if we can sign him long term. He wants to be "the man" on a team, come here Zach. You'll be the man. If he wants $6 million +, no problem because we have Antro at $4 million who will come off the books after next season if not sooner and Hainsey's 4.5 million.
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