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Post by hawker14 on Aug 6, 2011 15:56:56 GMT -6
I'm waiting for that team to die.
Thank you.
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Post by jetsreturned2011 on Aug 6, 2011 16:26:15 GMT -6
You gotta feel for the hardcore fans down there though, if they lost there team, we know what losing a team feels like.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2011 1:52:00 GMT -6
i feel for the Atlanta fans. It was not necessarily lack of fan support that they were relocated. Ownership just did not care about the team. As for Phoenix, I could not care less, since they took the original Jets away.
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Post by GreatCanadian on Aug 7, 2011 7:58:50 GMT -6
Atlanta's situation was 50% attendance, 50% owner. Sure they had a chance, but the owners just let the team die.
Phoenix is 100% attendance. There were good teams, a great rink, reasonable owners, a competitive team most years.... yet no one went.
I have no pity for Phoenix's situation at all. 100% their own faults.
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Post by Lions67 on Aug 7, 2011 9:46:27 GMT -6
Atlanta's situation was 50% attendance, 50% owner. Sure they had a chance, but the owners just let the team die. Phoenix is 100% attendance. There were good teams, a great rink, reasonable owners, a competitive team most years.... yet no one went. I have no pity for Phoenix's situation at all. 100% their own faults. this is pretty much the truth. never feel pity for the fans in PHX. there are not enough hardcore fans willing to pay NHL prices. dont forget that part people. they still pay much less than anybody else to get the privlidge to see NHL hockey. |
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Post by JimmyMann on Aug 7, 2011 11:09:00 GMT -6
Unless someone steps forward very soon this team will be moving somewhere. I expect December 31 to be a hard deadline this time as no relocation options will come with an organization in place like TNSE.
This team has iced a good team the last few years and fan support has been very poor. When you rely on the fans of visiting teams to fill your building and you are marketing suites to fans in Canada you know that the problems run deep.
I will have a smile from ear to ear when this team leaves Arizona and except for a very small goup of fans in Arizona no one will even notice that they have moved.
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Post by Guardian on Aug 7, 2011 11:58:40 GMT -6
I have no love for the Coyotes.
If market size is the only thing that matters then why not move the team to Mexico City with a population of 10 million?
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Post by lukemiguez on Aug 7, 2011 16:03:54 GMT -6
Winnipeg got an NHL franchise back and people are still endlessly talking about the Phoenix Coyotes. At this point I'm going to just assume that people are obsessed with the Coyotes' problems because it somehow "proves a point".
"No pity", "no love" and ultimately no respect.
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Post by Tim on Aug 8, 2011 6:07:53 GMT -6
I'm waiting for that team to die. Thank you. |
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Post by GreatCanadian on Aug 8, 2011 9:23:02 GMT -6
Winnipeg got an NHL franchise back and people are still endlessly talking about the Phoenix Coyotes. At this point I'm going to just assume that people are obsessed with the Coyotes' problems because it somehow "proves a point". "No pity", "no love" and ultimately no respect. It's not really that. Most Canadians want to see the Coyotes crash and burn because it symbolises Bettman's idiotic exodus of teams from passionnate hockey markets to dead "BIG US TV" markets. He did nothing to stop teams from Minnesota, Hartford, Quebec and Winnipeg from moving, and threw every roadblock possible when those cities attempted to save their team. He broke a lot of fans' hearts and puzzled a lot of people with all of it and a lot of people in the northern states and Canada resent him (and the resulting teams) for it. Things are magnified now because his shiny new sunbelt team in Arizona has imploded and is now a horrible ugly mangled mess..... and deep down us Canadians (and particularly Winnipeggers) are laughing out loud about it. The more the Coyotes suffer, the more pie Bettman gets on his face for his moronic idea 20 years ago. I am also enjoying every painful month that the Coyotes go through. They don't deserve NHL hockey. Sooooo many other markets should be higher up the pecking order on both sides of the border. They are an AHL market at best.... maybe even ECHL. |
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Post by lukemiguez on Aug 8, 2011 14:17:14 GMT -6
Winnipeg got an NHL franchise back and people are still endlessly talking about the Phoenix Coyotes. At this point I'm going to just assume that people are obsessed with the Coyotes' problems because it somehow "proves a point". "No pity", "no love" and ultimately no respect. It's not really that. Most Canadians want to see the Coyotes crash and burn because it symbolises Bettman's idiotic exodus of teams from passionnate hockey markets to dead "BIG US TV" markets. He did nothing to stop teams from Minnesota, Hartford, Quebec and Winnipeg from moving, and threw every roadblock possible when those cities attempted to save their team. He broke a lot of fans' hearts and puzzled a lot of people with all of it and a lot of people in the northern states and Canada resent him (and the resulting teams) for it. Things are magnified now because his shiny new sunbelt team in Arizona has imploded and is now a horrible ugly mangled mess..... and deep down us Canadians (and particularly Winnipeggers) are laughing out loud about it. The more the Coyotes suffer, the more pie Bettman gets on his face for his moronic idea 20 years ago. I am also enjoying every painful month that the Coyotes go through. They don't deserve NHL hockey. Sooooo many other markets should be higher up the pecking order on both sides of the border. They are an AHL market at best.... maybe even ECHL. Thanks for reiterating my points. |
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Post by GreatCanadian on Aug 8, 2011 14:54:32 GMT -6
upon further reading, I guess I did
.....I respect Coyote fans individually, and good for them that they have a team to cheer for..... but there's not enough of them around to make it a credible idea. I don't hate the fans (except the ones that hate on us). I hate the cause more than anything.
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Post by TheDeuce on Aug 8, 2011 15:28:46 GMT -6
The Coyotes fans who I genuinely dislike are the ones who sincerely believe that they are entitled to have a team for no other reason than the fact that Phoenix is a big American city and is therefore a desirable place for the NHL to be. It's not too far removed from the really gorgeous girl who thinks she can be a nasty witch all she wants because she can get by on her looks.
Big city or not, being an NHL city is a privilege.
m.
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Post by jjmoohead on Aug 8, 2011 16:01:33 GMT -6
I don't want a team in any market that isn't a hockey market. Phoenix has proved time and time again they are not a hockey city. They have made to many mistakes and there never really was huge fan base. Its true their marketing sucks, their past Owners sucked, and ultimitly it was the move to Glendale that destroyed the team. However, nothing is happening down there that makes this better down there.
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Post by puckshmuck on Aug 8, 2011 20:41:17 GMT -6
May I reiterate...................ARIZONA IS NOT A HOCKEY MARKET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you.
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