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Post by Bruinsfan on Sept 19, 2013 9:15:23 GMT -6
peter dont put any stock into the PKP's politics barring him from getting a team. That all came from nhlwiki who turned out to be a fraud and ran away from twitter. The nhl wants expansion and they would rather expand in canada than relocate a US franchise. Mikecubs states it often that they want a full presence for TV rights. I dont disagree with him. expansion to seattle gives them a strong existence in the west. and expansion to quebec helps them maximize canada
They dont want portland because its just not the metro power that seattle is.
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Post by Tim on Sept 19, 2013 10:01:07 GMT -6
Unfortunately, I'm not confident at all. Seattle will get one. I feel maybe Portland the other one, so we're getting screwed again. Not sure what's wrong with us right now. PKP? Habs blocking? Bettman's ego? Weird that after all this time, in a 2 month span 3 weak teams are being "saved"... Is your building ready yet? |
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Post by donwood on Sept 19, 2013 10:36:27 GMT -6
 Unfortunately, I'm not confident at all. Seattle will get one. I feel maybe Portland the other one, so we're getting screwed again. Not sure what's wrong with us right now. PKP? Habs blocking? Bettman's ego? Weird that after all this time, in a 2 month span 3 weak teams are being "saved"... Is your building ready yet? Recent photo |
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Post by DowntownBooster on Sept 19, 2013 10:43:21 GMT -6
It would be nice to have a team in Seattle and another in Houston. This would balance out both conferences with 16 teams in each.
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Post by mikecubs on Sept 20, 2013 0:15:54 GMT -6
^^^Houston Rockets(NBA) owner Leslie Alexander no longer wants an NHL team like he did in the 1990's. He lost a ton of money on his divorce. I don't think he can afford an NHL team anymore.
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Post by mikecubs on Sept 20, 2013 0:17:39 GMT -6
Very bad news for Sacramento. It looks like the arena is going to a public vote unless the 18,000 signatures Chris Hansen paid for get thrown out. Disputed Hansen-funded Kings arena petitions okayed, proceed directly to vote where anybody can spend whatever they wantPosted on September 18, 2013 by Neil deMause It looks like the custody battle for Sacramento Kings arena referendum petitions that had Chris Hansen’s dirty fingerprints on them is over, and despite Hansen’s vow to stop them from being submitted, they’re going to be submitted: STOP announced Tuesday it had received the signatures from an Orange County political consultant named Brandon Powers, who had arranged for the petitions to be gathered with $100,000 from Hansen. The campaign is in the process of verifying the validity of the signatures, said STOP spokesman John Hyde. He said the goal will be to collect 30,000 signatures, enough to provide a buffer for those that may be found invalid by county elections officials… STOP said it would deny Hansen’s request to return the petitions. “These petitions represent the will of 18,000 people who took the time to provide their signatures and express their desire to put this tax subsidy to a vote,” Julian Camacho, president of STOP, said in a statement. “We believe it would be wrong – ethically and legally – to deny them that right.” There is a bit of weirdness here, in that Hansen violated campaign finance reporting laws, and the only punishment he’ll get for it is to pay a fine of … well, more than half his campaign donations, so that’s a pretty sizable chunk of change. More to the point, though, as Camacho notes, it’d be tough to argue that the 18,000 people who had the misfortune to sign Hansen-provided petitions instead of some other petitions should be disenfranchised just because of who bought the paper they put pen to — you’d have to start questioning whether there are people who passed up non-Hansen petitions because they’d already signed Hansen ones, etc., and that’s a road you really don’t want to go down. Anyway, it looks like Sacramentans will get to vote on the proposed $334 million in arena subsidies sometime next year, in that time-honored American tradition where it’s totally considered legit for both sides to try to spend each other into the ground. (Even people with no connection to the vote! The Supreme Court says so!) The pro-arena forces are bound to have a massive spending advantage here, but let’s also remember the 100-to-1 rule, which says that sports facility proponents need to outspend opponents by at least 100-to-1 to have a decent shot at winning a public vote. Gentlemen, start your wallets. www.fieldofschemes.com/2013/09/18/5915/disputed-hansen-funded-kings-arena-petitions-okayed-proceed-directly-to-vote-where-anybody-can-spend-whatever-they-want/#comments |
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Post by mikecubs on Sept 20, 2013 0:20:16 GMT -6
Milwaukee also received an ultimatum from the next NBA commissioner. Incoming NBA commissioner Silver says Bradley Center unfit for leagueFor years, officials from the Milwaukee Bucks, team owner Herb Kohl and other city leaders have claimed that the city's downtown basketball arena is outdated and not fit for an NBA team. On Wednesday, a top NBA official, soon to be the league's top executive, made the case clear. “One obvious issue we all have to deal with is we need a new arena in Milwaukee,” said Adam Silver, deputy National Basketball Association commissioner, speaking of the BMO Harris Bradley Center. Silver was speaking to a private audience at the “Bucks Partner Summit” in the Discovery World Museum Pilot House on Milwaukee’s lakefront. I attended the meeting at the invitation of the Bucks. Silver will take over as NBA commissioner Feb. 1, 2014, following the retirement of David Stern. Silver said he supports the efforts of Kohl and the Bucks to keep the team viable and in Milwaukee. Silver, in response to a question from moderator, Matt Parlow of Marquette University, said Kohl’s ownership of the Bucks is one of the team’s great strengths and that Kohl is committed to keeping the team in Milwaukee. The Bucks and the Bradley Center have done well to reinvest in the downtown Milwaukee arena now known as the BMO Harris Bradley Center, Silver said. The naming-rights deal with BMO Harris Bank was one example of new corporate sponsorships garnered by the Metropolitan Milwaukee Association of Commerce’s “Champions of the Community” campaign announced in May 2012. Also, the BMO Harris Bradley Center spent $3 million on upgrades unveiled last season that included suite upgrades, a new hospitality bar and new theater-style seating sections. Silver said he “just got a tour” of Milwaukee’s NBA arena and concluded it is too small and still falls short on amenities.
“At the end of the day compared to other modern arenas in the league, this arena is a few hundred thousand square feet too small,” Silver said. “It doesn’t have the sort of back-of-house space you need, doesn’t have the kinds of amenities we need.
“It doesn’t have the right sort of upper bowl/lower bowl (seating) configuration for the teams frankly that Milwaukee wants to compete against,” he said. Silver was not available for an interview after making his remarks to sponsors. Silver said all the NBA’s 30 teams — including those in smaller markets like Milwaukee — are poised to prosper following the league’s agreement with the NBA Players Association signed in late 2011. Prior to signing the 10-year contract, the league’s teams “were losing a lot of money,” Silver said. “We believe we’re moving toward a system where every team has an opportunity to compete on the court, an opportunity to run a successful business,” Silver said. Silver said league officials are aware new NBA-quality arenas are being planned in Seattle, Las Vegas and Kansas City, which don't have NBA teams now. League officials are happy to share the NBA’s specifications for such structures but are not entertaining new franchises. “We’re not even considering expanding right now,” Silver said. As evidenced by those other cities’ interest in attracting an NBA team, the league retains its prestige, Silver said. Being an NBA town “signifies a certain stature for a city in this day and age,” he said. “It signifies a major league image.” www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/2013/09/milwaukee-needs-a-new-arena-nbas.html?page=all |
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Post by DowntownBooster on Sept 20, 2013 10:22:00 GMT -6
^^^Houston Rockets(NBA) owner Leslie Alexander no longer wants an NHL team like he did in the 1990's. He lost a ton of money on his divorce. I don't think he can afford an NHL team anymore. It still may be a market the NHL will consider for future expansion. Les Alexander is already 70 and may opt to sell his interests in the NBA Rockets at some point which would open the door for the NHL. |
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Post by donwood on Sept 20, 2013 12:08:23 GMT -6
Houston, Portland, Las Vegas. give me a break, none of them would be close to the success of Quebec or Southern Ontario.
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Post by Bruinsfan on Sept 20, 2013 22:09:06 GMT -6
I think the NBA wants out of old Milwaukee. just not a great spot for basketball...would love to see an NBA exit there and an nhl entrance though cause i think it would have been an awesome NHL market...wont happen though.
Expansion to quebec would be perfectly fine for the NHL. Gets them another canadian team to prop up their southern teams, gives them an excuse to put a team out west in seattle.
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Post by mikecubs on Sept 21, 2013 2:26:00 GMT -6
^^^Houston Rockets(NBA) owner Leslie Alexander no longer wants an NHL team like he did in the 1990's. He lost a ton of money on his divorce. I don't think he can afford an NHL team anymore. It still may be a market the NHL will consider for future expansion. Les Alexander is already 70 and may opt to sell his interests in the NBA Rockets at some point which would open the door for the NHL. Oh I agree with this. Houston is 6.3 million people 10th biggest market in the US or Canada(if we could Miami's demographics realistically and don't count places over 100 miles away). Houston is also one of the top 10 fastest growing cities. If current trends hold in another 8 years Houston will be around 7.5 million people next census in 2020! Houston is tied with Chicago for the 2nd most fortune 1000 companies in the united states. Houston is freaking rich. If the NHL ever gets the chance they will go to Houston and HOPE to someday build enough fans. The demographics and corporate $$$ are too tempting. Plus we know the NHL will never give up chasing the dream of the big TV deal. If Houston could ever actually work someday this would help big time in that goal. Just be aware currently there aren't many NHL fans in Houston at all(see fan chart) |
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Post by mikecubs on Sept 21, 2013 2:30:06 GMT -6
Houston, Portland, Las Vegas. give me a break, none of them would be close to the success of Quebec or Southern Ontario. No kidding. At least Quebec will get a team. South Ontario won't happen pathetically. The Leafs help fund the sun belt experiment big time as a reward Bettman won't put a 2nd team in Ontario. |
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Post by Tim on Sept 21, 2013 7:10:14 GMT -6
Was waiting for Peter to answer, I knew it wasn't ready, and thats the point, the NHL will be ready when Quebec is ready, and as the picture shows they are not ready yet. Just like the Winnipeg they were been used as leverage for the Glendale deal, if it fell apart they would land in Quebec if not be patient your time is coming, feels kinda familiar right! |
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Post by Tim on Sept 21, 2013 7:13:03 GMT -6
Houston, Portland, Las Vegas. give me a break, none of them would be close to the success of Quebec or Southern Ontario. No kidding. At least Quebec will get a team. South Ontario won't happen pathetically. The Leafs help fund the sun belt experiment big time as a reward Bettman won't put a 2nd team in Ontario. Um that would be a third team in Ontario, and a 3rd team would not hurt the leaf one bit! |
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Post by peter26 on Sept 21, 2013 7:25:19 GMT -6
Yeah Tim I was late to answer... I play last Tuesday at the old Colisée, took a sight of the new one. Got chills. Nords or not, it will be a great building. One year from now, the roof will be on. Can't wait. I see it also from my office at work. Blessed!!! LOL
We've got some heat from Montreal reporters yesterday because the preseason game wasn't soldout. We have shown since 2008 our love for hockey and that we want our team back. Come on, Hurricanes-Habs "C" squads, 150$ a ticket, preseason... People I've talked to all said the same thing: enough is enough, Bettman's turn to show us some interest.
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