bogo
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Post by bogo on Feb 4, 2014 22:13:09 GMT -6
Who is the madman who thought up this one? If people didn't think the Panthers were a complete joke before, this solidifies things. Time for the Yotes to trump this farce.
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Post by donwood on Feb 5, 2014 0:36:11 GMT -6
Who is the madman who thought up this one? If people didn't think the Panthers were a complete joke before, this solidifies things. Time for the Yotes to trump this farce. The Coyotes are trying hard. They have directed employees to park in the free Westgate parking spots to force "fans" to park in the Coyote paid lots.
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Post by peter26 on Feb 5, 2014 6:43:26 GMT -6
Who is the madman who thought up this one? If people didn't think the Panthers were a complete joke before, this solidifies things. Time for the Yotes to trump this farce. The Coyotes are trying hard. They have directed employees to park in the free Westgate parking spots to force "fans" to park in the Coyote paid lots. Really? This league is a JOKE.
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Post by Hannu Smail on Feb 5, 2014 8:43:55 GMT -6
The Coyotes are trying hard. They have directed employees to park in the free Westgate parking spots to force "fans" to park in the Coyote paid lots. Really? This league is a JOKE. Then why do you want in so bad? The situation with these teams is a joke, but it's the best hockey league in the world.
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Post by phillymike on Feb 5, 2014 9:08:25 GMT -6
Who is the madman who thought up this one? If people didn't think the Panthers were a complete joke before, this solidifies things. Time for the Yotes to trump this farce. The Coyotes are trying hard. They have directed employees to park in the free Westgate parking spots to force "fans" to park in the Coyote paid lots. Just wait, Glendale city council will be putting all the rouge shopping carts that they have, in the free Westgate parking spots!!! Wonder if the advertising in the parking lot idea that they thought was worth BIG $$$ ever came to fruition?
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Post by TheDeuce on Feb 5, 2014 12:31:29 GMT -6
Even better than the Coyotes promotion of getting two free tickets to a Yotes game after buying a 24 of Bud for 15 dollars, we have this in Florida: Suppose you did not win the lottery, and I refer not to the genetic lottery, which the two Florida Panthers fans above failed to win, clearly, but the actual Florida Lottery. Normally, that's sort of where your journey with those lottery tickets ends. You buy a scratch ticket. You scratch it. If you do not win, you throw the ticket away. It has no further value. But not so fast! Just because your ticket is a losing ticket doesn't mean it can't still be a winning ticket! Why, in the world of Florida hockey, that bad boy is currency. The Florida Panthers will accept $10 worth of used scratch-off tickets for in exchange for actual hockey tickets. From the Panthers' fan zone: Fans who submit $10 or more of non-winning Florida Lottery Scratch-Off Ticket(s) at the BB&T Center Box Office will receive an upper level end zone ticket (valued at $20) for a Tuesday or Thursday regular season home game. Fans can redeem their game tickets at the BB&T Center Box Office from Monday-Friday 9am – 5pm or Day of Game. Game tickets will be valid only for Tuesday or Thursday games. Promotion ends on Mar. 29 game vs. Canadiens. Again, that's non-winning. The Florida Panthers don't want your money. They want your trash. In other words, as the first official rule of the promotion states, "no purchase necessary." You can basically get Florida Panthers tickets for pieces of scrap paper now. No word on whether they will also take buttons, feathers, shoelaces, hugs, or cut-up of bits of sponge. The Jets have a similar program, with a few minor differences: 1. The lottery tickets cannot be losing tickets. They have to be winning tickets. 2. The tickets have to first be converted into large amounts of money. 3. The large amount of money can be redeemed for one ticket to a low-demand game via Stubhub, Ticket Exchange (if you're lucky) or Ticketmaster (if you're very lucky). m.
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Post by donwood on Feb 5, 2014 13:40:00 GMT -6
The Coyotes are trying hard. They have directed employees to park in the free Westgate parking spots to force "fans" to park in the Coyote paid lots. Just wait, Glendale city council will be putting all the rouge shopping carts that they have, in the free Westgate parking spots!!! Wonder if the advertising in the parking lot idea that they thought was worth BIG $$$ ever came to fruition? . Attachments:
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Post by Lions67 on Feb 6, 2014 23:19:00 GMT -6
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Post by Bruinsfan on Feb 6, 2014 23:49:34 GMT -6
for the panthers to relocate it qould require separating the leases, which is tough because sunrise thinks its major league when its barely an echl town.
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Post by Lions67 on Feb 6, 2014 23:53:21 GMT -6
for the panthers to relocate it qould require separating the leases, which is tough because sunrise thinks its major league when its barely an echl town. what good is a lease when the owner comes to the taxpayer expecting a 70 million payoff?? really. 70 million more with the lease. fu ck off! ( not you, the owner)
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 7, 2014 2:30:14 GMT -6
This is the 1st time I've ever heard it claimed the entire operation was losing money. It's probably a just a ploy to get public money but the Panthers are so god awful it could be true. Either way I'm 100% certain the county will fold.
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Post by jetsorbust on Feb 7, 2014 13:16:40 GMT -6
This is the 1st time I've ever heard it claimed the entire operation was losing money. It's probably a just a ploy to get public money but the Panthers are so god awful it could be true. Either way I'm 100% certain the county will fold. I have lost all faith in municipal governments of small, southern US Suburbanite-towns when it comes to the sport of hockey. They don't even care at all about the sport, yet for some reason all logic goes out the window to keep said team. So while I agree that the county will probably give in, this is essentially what I have always said - it boggles the mind that the Panthers are a stable team. Even if it's a lie that the whole operation is losing money (and it probably is a lie), just from watching attendance pictures you know the Panthers are losing a ton of money. Why the county and owner would not come together and agree to sell the team, re-work the lease and both come out way ahead is completely beyond me.
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 8, 2014 2:27:01 GMT -6
I agree with all you say. I have 0 faith in any southern suburbanite city to say "no that's too rich for my blood" to any NHL team. The answer the last sentence of your post is
a. These small hick suburbs want to be "Major League" if the team leaves they won't be "Major League"
b. These places feel the arena will "go to waste" since it was built for a pro team thus I must spend whatever it takes to "save the arena".
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Post by Bruinsfan on Feb 10, 2014 15:43:36 GMT -6
I agree with all you say. I have 0 faith in any southern suburbanite city to say "no that's too rich for my blood" to any NHL team. The answer the last sentence of your post is a. These small hick suburbs want to be "Major League" if the team leaves they won't be "Major League" b. These places feel the arena will "go to waste" since it was built for a pro team thus I must spend whatever it takes to "save the arena". What would need to happen is the guys who run the arena saying if we got rid of the team we would make the money...that wont happen with the NHL revenue checks
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Post by mikecubs on Feb 15, 2014 2:58:49 GMT -6
Panthers plead case for more bed-tax money to tourism council Florida Panthers officials appeared Friday before the Broward County Tourist Development Council to plead their case for the county to channel millions more in tourist tax dollars to the financially ailing team. They got a lukewarm reception, and council members opted to mull over the request before recommending whether the county should grant it. "I don't think we're ready for this," council member Tim Schiavone said. "We're not in a position to spend that kind of money." With a video extolling the BB&T Center in Sunrise as a tourist magnet, Panthers CEO Michael Yormark explained during an hourlong presentation that the team and events at the arena draw hundreds of thousands of tourists to the area. But the Panthers are losing about $30 million a year, he said. The county already contributes $8 million a year from a 2-percent bed tax on hotel guests to pay off the arena's construction debt. The team is asking for a greater portion of the money generated by the bed tax for the debt, as well as help with maintenance and insurance costs for the arena. We're not too proud to say we need some assistance," Yormark said.
The team is asking for an additional $6.2 million annually over 14 years, for a total of $86.8 million
The $6.2 million figure, up from a previous proposal of $5.6 million a year, was new to Barbara Sharief, county mayor and chairperson of the tourist council. "Right now the numbers keep changing," she said.The county's lodging and tourism industries want to use a portion of the bed-tax money for beach renourishment and tourism marketing. "Without the beaches, we're like everyone else," Hollywood Mayor Peter Bober said. "The beach is a huge priority," said council member Andreas Ioannou, with the Fort Lauderdale Hilton. National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman appeared to buttress the Panthers' case. "The more [tourist] traffic that can be brought to Broward County, the better," he said. Panthers officials also argued that the county's 2-percent bed tax, passed in 1996, should by ordinance have been dedicated strictly to the arena. County Attorney Joni Armstrong Coffey disagreed, saying the tax was only designed to "assist" the arena. But council members were willing to compromise.
"I might be able to find some way to find some relief," Bober said.
"We probably need to slow this down … attempt to find a middle ground," said council member Bobby DuBose, a Fort Lauderdale city commissioner.
"It may not be the entire ask, but we know at this point that something has to be done," Sharief said. The County Commission will meet Tuesday to discuss the issue further, and it may be months before officials settle on how much, if anything, they're willing to give the struggling team. " I think that we're going to come up with something between $4 [million] and $6 million," Sharief said after the meeting. www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/fl-panthers-tax-money-20140214,0,929097.story
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