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Post by JETStender on Dec 8, 2014 17:35:52 GMT -6
The NHL has approved a season ticket drive to William Foley and the Maloof family, potential owners of the Las Vegas expansion team.
This will be similar to the drive the Jets did. If the goals are met the deposits will be non refundable.
This should light a fire under the Seattle powers that be to get their arena done ASAP, as they would be the next in line for an expansion team.
Quebec City, no surprise, is not being considered and will have to wait for a relocation opportunity.
In light of the expansion talks the deal to sell 51% of the Arizona Coyotes to Andrew Barroway is all but dead. It appeared as though Barroway was interested in flipping the team to owners that would relocate the team or move it to Vegas himself.
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Post by wolfmannick on Dec 8, 2014 18:01:11 GMT -6
^ If that's true I'm sure it means Quebec wont have to wait very long. They wouldnt have built that rink in Quebec without a guarentee of an NHL team.
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Post by Ric O. on Dec 8, 2014 18:05:36 GMT -6
The NHL has approved a season ticket drive to William Foley and the Maloof family, potential owners of the Las Vegas expansion team. This will be similar to the drive the Jets did. If the goals are met the deposits will be non refundable. This should light a fire under the Seattle powers that be to get their arena done ASAP, as they would be the next in line for an expansion team. Quebec City, no surprise, is not being considered and will have to wait for a relocation opportunity. In light of the expansion talks the deal to sell 51% of the Arizona Coyotes to Andrew Barroway is all but dead. It appeared as though Barroway was interested in flipping the team to owners that would relocate the team or move it to Vegas himself. In the words of Gary Bettman in May 2011... if you don't sell 13,000 season tickets then this is probably not going to go very well... or something to that effect.
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Post by Tim on Dec 8, 2014 18:17:11 GMT -6
Great a team that will only have corporate sales and no fan base. I guess at least it will be a paid ticket giveaway!
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Post by Lions67 on Dec 8, 2014 18:37:08 GMT -6
^ If that's true I'm sure it means Quebec wont have to wait very long. They wouldnt have built that rink in Quebec without a guarentee of an NHL team. agreed. i said the exact same thing when MTS Centre went up. No way that was for the Moose. No way that palace is for the Remparts!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 18:46:21 GMT -6
^ If that's true I'm sure it means Quebec wont have to wait very long. They wouldnt have built that rink in Quebec without a guarentee of an NHL team. I'm not so sure about that. Hamilton built Copps Coliseum in 1986-87, in order to attract a team. In fairness, they should have been granted an NHL franchise for the 1992-93 season, as Ron Joyce, owner of Tim Hortons, was going to finance the team. His mistake was asking the NHL if he could pay in installments, rather than $50 million upfront. That is what killed the Hamilton build. On the other hand, you had Bruce Firestone, leading the Ottawa bid, lie and say he had all the money, which he never did. Ottawa was also years away from constructing an NHL arena. Hamilton got fleeced in 1990, when they awarded teams to Ottawa and Tampa. I can see the same thing happening to Quebec, if they do not play their cards right.
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Post by wolfmannick on Dec 8, 2014 20:24:43 GMT -6
? I dont know, I think the NHL wants a team in Quebec so I doubt its far from happening.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 21:08:56 GMT -6
The NHL has approved a season ticket drive to William Foley and the Maloof family, potential owners of the Las Vegas expansion team. This will be similar to the drive the Jets did. If the goals are met the deposits will be non refundable. Any bets how long it takes Las Vegas to sell the required # of season tickets? I'm thinking 11 months... In Quebec, it would be 3 days max.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Dec 8, 2014 21:53:49 GMT -6
ridiculous...Vegas will be a disaster.
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Post by Tim on Dec 8, 2014 21:55:47 GMT -6
ridiculous...Vegas will be a disaster. A team with money sold tickets but no fan base.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Dec 8, 2014 22:00:13 GMT -6
ridiculous...Vegas will be a disaster. A team with money sold tickets but no fan base. they might sell a lot of tickets at first, but I'm not sure it'll last...why would Casinos want to send their customers OUT of their buildings?..team will lack local fans...
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Post by calgaryflames on Dec 8, 2014 22:22:17 GMT -6
You guys also need to acknowledge the fact that Bettman said a season ticket drive wouldn't be necessary in markets like Quebec. I think if you read between the lines here it means "be patient Quebec, they are coming" Relocation is def looking like the route of Nordique 2.0 arrival. Who knows, maybe the Panthers do end up moving, quietly and quickly to QC. Or perhaps the never ending saga with the Coyotes has them shipped to QC overnight, with Columbus coming back west, and Vegas + Seattle getting expansion. Many scenarios in play here folks. Grab some popcorn and enjoy!
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Post by calgaryflames on Dec 8, 2014 22:25:08 GMT -6
The league didn't just approve a season ticket drive for no reason. This all but confirms it, they WILL expand to Las Vegas. Pretty much guarantees a Seattle expansion as well I would think. I honestly think that Bettman knows the league robbed Canada (Winnipeg and QC) of franchises. I don't think he wants to go down in history and be remembered as the guy who was "anti-Canadian, screwing Canada over and over". Think about it, he has already given back the Jets. It would appear he is about to give back the Nordiques. He has saved Ottawa, Calgary, and Edmonton from moving. Doesn't seem so anti-Canadian when you put it all in perspective (assuming the Nordiques do return). Heck he may even give the GTA another franchise. He stated it a few years back that he wants to "correct a few wrongs". Winnipeg got the Thrashers for a rather small amount of money in relocation fees (in comparison to what expansion would be charging). I truly believe that the league wants to give back the Nordiques in a similar manner, meaning a relocation to QC will happen before any expansion is announced. This will ensure that QC doesn't overpay for a crap franchise (same thing Winnipeg did), and leaving the league to charge as much as they please to whomever else is interested in franchises via expansion (Vegas, Seattle, Tworonto, KC etc.) Think about it, the league wants money right? What better way to make money than awarding expansion franchises. All at the same time of removing a weak link (eg. PHX or FLA). Maybe they are considering a 34 team league. Maybe we see relocation of one market to QC, expansion to 3 western US cities (Vegas, Seattle, KC) and expansion to one BIG eastern Canadian city (Toronto). KC and Seattle are markets that will probably work in my eyes. Toronto is a no brainer. Only question mark is Vegas, and probably part of the reason why this ticket drive has been announced.
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Post by Tim on Dec 8, 2014 22:32:12 GMT -6
You guys also need to acknowledge the fact that Bettman said a season ticket drive wouldn't be necessary in markets like Quebec. I think if you read between the lines here it means "be patient Quebec, they are coming" Relocation is def looking like the route of Nordique 2.0 arrival. Who knows, maybe the Panthers do end up moving, quietly and quickly to QC. Or perhaps the never ending saga with the Coyotes has them shipped to QC overnight, with Columbus coming back west, and Vegas + Seattle getting expansion. Many scenarios in play here folks. Grab some popcorn and enjoy! I have absolutely no doubt Quebec is a done deal, never gave it a second sought. Vegas is all about being the first guys there, tickets sales should not be a problem and comping tickets is a way of life in Vegas. They will have a team like Phinox but the only difference is tickets will be paid for.
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Post by mikecubs on Dec 9, 2014 0:57:24 GMT -6
A team with money sold tickets but no fan base. they might sell a lot of tickets at first, but I'm not sure it'll last...why would Casinos want to send their customers OUT of their buildings?..team will lack local fans... other problem is if visitors to Vegas don't care for the comp tickets and see them as a value and something to be actually used. If they don't find them as a value and use them then the casinos won't buy the tickets anymore.
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