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Post by TheDeuce on Jul 22, 2016 14:02:02 GMT -6
It's a shame some people in this city have to taint this great thing that the Jets are creating with the HOF by bringing up past off ice events involving Hull. There is no question there would not have been a Winnipeg Jets back then or even today had Hull not come here in '72.Hull is one of the greatest hockey players of all time. The fact that he wore a Jets jersey for 8 years is something every fan should be proud of. That's not to say whatever Hull did off the ice was right. It wasn't. But that's not the point of the Jets HOF. I don't think that's quite correct. There would still have been a WHA Winnipeg Jets but the WHA as a whole would have been regarded as a mickey mouse league. Having Hull in the league made the WHA a major player and paved the way for other top talent to jump ship from the NHL. It's safe to say that without Hull there would have been no WHA - NHL merger and thus no NHL Jets 1.0 or 2.0. m.
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Post by lovethejets on Jul 22, 2016 20:38:28 GMT -6
I do not know who is on this big show. Quite frankly I do not care...if that is the one with old bomber kicker, then I laugh in their general direction...he knows ZERO about hockey. He has so many opinions that are simply trying to be different to encourage debate and not coming from an experienced perspective. Its like a stock analysts four years ago saying "sell Apple". The stock went straight up and having a "buy" rating would have meant you were like everyone else. But no-one was dumb enough to have a sell rating - unless you were trying to get noticed. That is just a way to differentiate yourself. It usually means that you are wrong though.
Look I have heard stories about Hull but I grew up with Brett Hull on my baseball teams and there were rumours that he was not the best home guy on the planet but I have no idea what is true and what is not. We were never aware of anything out of the ordinary. All we know for sure is that his signing put Winnipeg on the hockey map and he was a great player and I celebrate him for that. If he was proven to be a wife beater or some other criminal activity I would agree that he is not allowed to be in our HOF. However, that is simply not the case and people can speculate all they want but I just see that as some people trying to make a name for themselves at other people's expense.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 16:27:46 GMT -6
I like how True North is inducting the entire WHA "Hot Line" into the Jets HOF at the same time. Classy.
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Post by lenny on Jul 28, 2016 17:49:25 GMT -6
I like how True North is inducting the entire WHA "Hot Line" into the Jets HOF at the same time. Classy. Don't want to piss you off but Westwood the self-righteous one and Lawless both came down against this today because Hull was such an beast.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 2:10:29 GMT -6
I like how True North is inducting the entire WHA "Hot Line" into the Jets HOF at the same time. Classy. Don't want to piss you off but Westwood the self-righteous one and Lawless both came down against this today because Hull was such an beast. No worries. Was Hull actually convicted of domestic violence? I knew he was charged at one point in time.
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Post by USApegger on Jul 29, 2016 4:28:13 GMT -6
Don't want to piss you off but Westwood the self-righteous one and Lawless both came down against this today because Hull was such an beast. No worries. Was Hull actually convicted of domestic violence? I knew he was charged at one point in time. I believe someone asked Westwood that and he said there were police reports and that Hull's daughter confirmed it, but I don't believe he was ever convicted.
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Post by lenny on Jul 29, 2016 8:02:20 GMT -6
Don't want to piss you off but Westwood the self-righteous one and Lawless both came down against this today because Hull was such an beast. No worries. Was Hull actually convicted of domestic violence? I knew he was charged at one point in time. Yeah never convicted. Interestingly enough Lawless, when he was shooting his mouth off thought he was. When he was corrected he persisted in maintaining his position by referencing unproven assertions and allegations. This is a society now that virtually believes everything someone asserts. A bio, interviews, twitter etc. But even assuming the man was not a paragon of domestic bliss, detaching it from his impact in this city in terms of hockey has nothing to do with anything but finding and acknowledging an aspect of his life worthy of praise. Guys like Westwood and Lawless want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and I'm thinking it's for all the wrong reasons (political correctness).
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Post by DowntownBooster on Jul 29, 2016 10:23:50 GMT -6
It seems as though both Westwood and Lawless believe that Hull continues with the domestic violence to this day. Hull's issues sound like they took place long ago and he is probably ashamed of those actions. Everyone is entitled to the opportunity to move on from past transgressions and try to do some good with their remaining time. Hull is involved in charitable work to benefit children and it appears that Westwood/Lawless have questioned his involvement due to his previous behavior. Do they not believe in 2nd chances for individuals who have done wrong? If anything, Hull belongs in the Jets hall of fame based on the important role he played during his time with the Winnipeg Jets and helping to establish major league hockey in our city.
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Post by Lions67 on Jul 29, 2016 10:25:18 GMT -6
I do not know who is on this big show. Quite frankly I do not care...if that is the one with old bomber kicker, then I laugh in their general direction...he knows ZERO about hockey. He has so many opinions that are simply trying to be different to encourage debate and not coming from an experienced perspective. Its like a stock analysts four years ago saying "sell Apple". The stock went straight up and having a "buy" rating would have meant you were like everyone else. But no-one was dumb enough to have a sell rating - unless you were trying to get noticed. That is just a way to differentiate yourself. It usually means that you are wrong though. Look I have heard stories about Hull but I grew up with Brett Hull on my baseball teams and there were rumours that he was not the best home guy on the planet but I have no idea what is true and what is not. We were never aware of anything out of the ordinary. All we know for sure is that his signing put Winnipeg on the hockey map and he was a great player and I celebrate him for that. If he was proven to be a wife beater or some other criminal activity I would agree that he is not allowed to be in our HOF. However, that is simply not the case and people can speculate all they want but I just see that as some people trying to make a name for themselves at other people's expense. This. Westwood takes this stance solely for ratings. The Big Show is just that. A show! Lawless is a fool though. He never lived here, he is going on hearsay. However, I too heard all those stories about Hull when I was growing up. Sylvia Kuzak would know the truth though. Not that she would say anything .
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Post by phillymike on Jul 29, 2016 11:40:00 GMT -6
And now the story has made Metro news.
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Post by phillymike on Jul 29, 2016 14:51:09 GMT -6
I do not know who is on this big show. Quite frankly I do not care...if that is the one with old bomber kicker, then I laugh in their general direction...he knows ZERO about hockey. He has so many opinions that are simply trying to be different to encourage debate and not coming from an experienced perspective. Its like a stock analysts four years ago saying "sell Apple". The stock went straight up and having a "buy" rating would have meant you were like everyone else. But no-one was dumb enough to have a sell rating - unless you were trying to get noticed. That is just a way to differentiate yourself. It usually means that you are wrong though. Look I have heard stories about Hull but I grew up with Brett Hull on my baseball teams and there were rumours that he was not the best home guy on the planet but I have no idea what is true and what is not. We were never aware of anything out of the ordinary. All we know for sure is that his signing put Winnipeg on the hockey map and he was a great player and I celebrate him for that. If he was proven to be a wife beater or some other criminal activity I would agree that he is not allowed to be in our HOF. However, that is simply not the case and people can speculate all they want but I just see that as some people trying to make a name for themselves at other people's expense. This. Westwood takes this stance solely for ratings. The Big Show is just that. A show! Lawless is a fool though. He never lived here, he is going on hearsay. However, I too heard all those stories about Hull when I was growing up. Sylvia Kuzak would know the truth though. Not that she would say anything . Did anyone else know that McDonalds now serves breakfast all day?!?!?! Time for a pre dinner Sausage Egg McMuffin!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 15:05:21 GMT -6
McDonald's serves breakfast all day? This is the greatest news ever!
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Post by phillymike on Jul 29, 2016 15:18:01 GMT -6
McDonald's serves breakfast all day? This is the greatest news ever! i know!!
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Post by Ric O. on Jul 29, 2016 16:59:56 GMT -6
I thought the McD all day breakfast was still in the USA only...? 4-11am is all they show on their mcdonalds.ca website.
Too bad Hull won't be lacing up the blades for the Heritage Classic (I don't expect). Hoping there will at least be a couple WHA reps in there.
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Post by Lions67 on Jul 29, 2016 17:14:16 GMT -6
This. Westwood takes this stance solely for ratings. The Big Show is just that. A show! Lawless is a fool though. He never lived here, he is going on hearsay. However, I too heard all those stories about Hull when I was growing up. Sylvia Kuzak would know the truth though. Not that she would say anything . Did anyone else know that McDonalds now serves breakfast all day?!?!?! Time for a pre dinner Sausage Egg McMuffin!! Oh don't get me wrong. I also couldn't care less. But all day you say?? Sweet!!!
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