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Post by djk on Jul 5, 2017 13:57:03 GMT -6
Wow! Good luck guys! Flames huge improvement! Dallas huge improvement! Even Vancouver tried to bring in some new elements. We brought in Kulikov and Mason and are hoping Myers may play a few games next year and you want to give Chevy A+ or A-. If Maurice can keep these guys glued together then I will be thrilled and apologize to you all but I am a little perplexed at how these two free agents merit a dynamic change and get us a playoff spot. B minus is generous. Thanks for the bulls**t stats grumpy! Let's see how your Russian top pairing defender does in Winnipeg compared to Alzner in Montreal. Haha Alzner. Depends what system you believe. You like the old school eyeball way of analyzing and he's just what you want. You like analytics and he's a possession black hole who maybe looks better than he is because the Capitals were so good. The truth is somewhere in the middle likely. We're grading the way we are because Chevy addressed EXACTLY the two most glaring holes that we have: goaltending and LHD. Alzner probably wasn't an option anyway even if you are one who liked him (I'm not) and in Mason he got what was arguably the best available free agent goalie (unless you rate Elliott higher). Kulikov will allow Buff the license to do his thing in a way that Chiarot, Enstrom and Stuart could not. If Myers is healthy and our 3rd pair is Enstrom and Myers please explain how that is not a massive upgrade on Postma/Chiarot/Stuart. Signing Kulikov enables all that, and if you look at lenny's more than fair analysis of Kulikov's past seasons you'll see that he was quite good when on a decent team. As for what the other teams did, that's not really relevant to the Jets. Calgary's biggest 2 moves were for an aging goalie who seems past his prime to me and a RHD that wouldn't fit in Winnipeg anyway given that we already have 3. Dallas's moves were forwards. We don't need that. Chevy controlled what we do need. Therefore good grade. Besides you might argue that Calgary and Dallas have improved but you can't convince me that Chicago and Minnesota did. I'd say those teams regressed on paper. St Louis, Nashville and Colorado all look status quo to me. So I think our chance is ok in the central. And if you include the Pacific do any of Arizona, Vegas, LA, San Jose or Vancouver really scare you? Anaheim will be good, Calgary will be good, Edmonton will be good. Nothing unbeatable in the west if you ask me, and we should have our sights on the playoffs based on what we've done this off season.
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Post by gobombersgo on Jul 5, 2017 16:02:09 GMT -6
Wow! Good luck guys! Flames huge improvement! Dallas huge improvement! Even Vancouver tried to bring in some new elements. We brought in Kulikov and Mason and are hoping Myers may play a few games next year and you want to give Chevy A+ or A-. If Maurice can keep these guys glued together then I will be thrilled and apologize to you all but I am a little perplexed at how these two free agents merit a dynamic change and get us a playoff spot. B minus is generous. Thanks for the bulls**t stats grumpy! Let's see how your Russian top pairing defender does in Winnipeg compared to Alzner in Montreal. Haha Alzner. Depends what system you believe. You like the old school eyeball way of analyzing and he's just what you want. You like analytics and he's a possession black hole who maybe looks better than he is because the Capitals were so good. The truth is somewhere in the middle likely. We're grading the way we are because Chevy addressed EXACTLY the two most glaring holes that we have: goaltending and LHD. Alzner probably wasn't an option anyway even if you are one who liked him (I'm not) and in Mason he got what was arguably the best available free agent goalie (unless you rate Elliott higher). Kulikov will allow Buff the license to do his thing in a way that Chiarot, Enstrom and Stuart could not. If Myers is healthy and our 3rd pair is Enstrom and Myers please explain how that is not a massive upgrade on Postma/Chiarot/Stuart. Signing Kulikov enables all that, and if you look at lenny's more than fair analysis of Kulikov's past seasons you'll see that he was quite good when on a decent team. As for what the other teams did, that's not really relevant to the Jets. Calgary's biggest 2 moves were for an aging goalie who seems past his prime to me and a RHD that wouldn't fit in Winnipeg anyway given that we already have 3. Dallas's moves were forwards. We don't need that. Chevy controlled what we do need. Therefore good grade. Besides you might argue that Calgary and Dallas have improved but you can't convince me that Chicago and Minnesota did. I'd say those teams regressed on paper. St Louis, Nashville and Colorado all look status quo to me. So I think our chance is ok in the central. And if you include the Pacific do any of Arizona, Vegas, LA, San Jose or Vancouver really scare you? Anaheim will be good, Calgary will be good, Edmonton will be good. Nothing unbeatable in the west if you ask me, and we should have our sights on the playoffs based on what we've done this off season. As well I'm not sold on most of the "upgrades" Dallas made. Not sold on an old Bishop that didn't have a great season last year. I'm willing to bet Methot is half the Dman he was in Ottawa without Karlsson. IMO, there D is still terrible and that will show in Bishop's numbers.
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Post by hillman on Jul 5, 2017 16:49:32 GMT -6
Chevy has done his part.This team is more than capable of being a playoff team. It is obvious we have now moved from draft and develop to win mode.Now we find out if Paul Maurice can move this team ahead.I like the guy so I hope he can do it.
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Post by Grumpz on Jul 5, 2017 17:51:03 GMT -6
Chevy has done his part.This team is more than capable of being a playoff team. It is obvious we have now moved from draft and develop to win mode.Now we find out if Paul Maurice can move this team ahead.I like the guy so I hope he can do it. If nothing goofy happens, this team needs to be performing well early on. If not, it'll be time to move on from Maurice. All the right tools are in place.
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Post by chrispy on Jul 5, 2017 18:18:18 GMT -6
Now today, good AHL signings for the moose, plus the addition of Harkins and Spacek, the Moose look better for this season as well. We can argue change of direction or just the next step of the famous 5 year plan, but this off season has by far been the best of any in Jets 2.0 brief history.
Chicago has gotten much worse, Dallas has no D and Bishops groin won't last 40 games behind those guys, Nashville squeaks into the playoffs and rides hot goalie to final, St. Louis treading water, Minnesota will not score like that again, Colorado sucks, and the Jets are a year older and holes are filled. Still need a veteran depth forward and one more Dman to battle Chiarot for 7th spot.
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Post by bottsy on Jul 5, 2017 21:47:02 GMT -6
Chevy has done his part.This team is more than capable of being a playoff team. It is obvious we have now moved from draft and develop to win mode.Now we find out if Paul Maurice can move this team ahead.I like the guy so I hope he can do it. If nothing goofy happens, this team needs to be performing well early on. If not, it'll be time to move on from Maurice. All the right tools are in place. We have notoriously been slow starters first 10 games are huge!!!
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Post by comakazi on Jul 11, 2017 15:44:22 GMT -6
I wonder if the Jets will try and find a 4th liner who can replace Peluso and Thorburn in that role from FA and hopefully grab a couple points next season. Maybe the Jets will go without but I'd hate to see Laine become a target unless Buff feels like playing a little tougher this year..
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