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Post by sting on Sept 21, 2011 19:25:56 GMT -6
Dave, I have the other package of games so I have not been at the rink yet, I'm behind you in 311 in row 3. Will I have the same problem with view? When I went for my seat selection it seemed that their was drop to the handicap level and it would not effect my view. Will I be obstructed? I'd be willing to bet that you'll be in the same boat. What wasn't mentioned (and what we failed to think about) was that even though there is a drop we never took into consideration that the seating gets pushed as far forward as possible. There apparently is a camera station on the handicap platform in front of us as well. When we had our appointment one of stood as if we were a camera operator, and it did not impede our LOS at all - I think the four of us assumed that if a 6' 2" man standing with his back to the wall didn't bother us, someone sitting against the same wall surely would not. But like I say - we never took into account that the people would not have their backs to the wall, but instead be as far forward as possible. I hope you are not in the same boat as me, but if you are I encourage you to take photos as I did and send TNSE a note. I did so today and hopefully they can come up with a solution that benefits everyone. Do you have a rail right in front of you? The rail in front of my picture is right in front of us. Maybe foot and half away. No one can walk in front of us. Real tight fit for people going to their seats.
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Post by myusernamesucks on Sept 21, 2011 20:00:30 GMT -6
I'd be willing to bet that you'll be in the same boat. What wasn't mentioned (and what we failed to think about) was that even though there is a drop we never took into consideration that the seating gets pushed as far forward as possible. There apparently is a camera station on the handicap platform in front of us as well. When we had our appointment one of stood as if we were a camera operator, and it did not impede our LOS at all - I think the four of us assumed that if a 6' 2" man standing with his back to the wall didn't bother us, someone sitting against the same wall surely would not. But like I say - we never took into account that the people would not have their backs to the wall, but instead be as far forward as possible. I hope you are not in the same boat as me, but if you are I encourage you to take photos as I did and send TNSE a note. I did so today and hopefully they can come up with a solution that benefits everyone. Do you have a rail right in front of you? The rail in front of my picture is right in front of us. Maybe foot and half away. No one can walk in front of us. Real tight fit for people going to their seats. We have the same extremely tight railing in front of us, then a handicap platform about 5 feet below us which is approximately 6 feet deep. The platform has a railing in front of it as well. EDIT: By the looks of your picture, it was taken while standing? Everything is freakin beautiful in our seats when we're standing. Sitting? Not so much. Again - I have confidence TNSE can rectify the situation. That - or they can classify my ticket as obstructed view and give me a discount
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Post by sting on Sept 21, 2011 20:12:12 GMT -6
Do you have a rail right in front of you? The rail in front of my picture is right in front of us. Maybe foot and half away. No one can walk in front of us. Real tight fit for people going to their seats. We have the same extremely tight railing in front of us, then a handicap platform about 5 feet below us which is approximately 6 feet deep. The platform has a railing in front of it as well. EDIT: By the looks of your picture, it was taken while standing? Everything is freakin beautiful in our seats when we're standing. Sitting? Not so much. Again - I have confidence TNSE can rectify the situation. That - or they can classify my ticket as obstructed view and give me a discount My picture was taken while sitting. That's why I'm trying to figure it out because it seems different than yours.
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Post by pegger5 on Sept 21, 2011 20:13:05 GMT -6
OMG guys. Besides replacing the mesh with plexi glass, absolutely every new arena has this issue. EVERY ARENA! I agree they need to put glass/plexi railings up but any other issue you guys are complaining about is the same in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, San Jose, Minnesota, Chicago, LA etc. I have been to them all and thay all have the same friken railings and obstructions. Yes it sucks but C'est la Vie. It is called BUILDING CODE..... Any of you guys sit between goal lines and blue line in the first 5 rows? Talk about not seeing the whole play or ice for that matter.
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Post by the_jaf on Sept 21, 2011 20:22:17 GMT -6
Who can we contact regarding the mesh to plexi glass issue
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Post by dkehler on Sept 21, 2011 20:24:55 GMT -6
Who can we contact regarding the mesh to plexi glass issue From the other thread: If this is a concern to you, please let Linzy Jones, Jim Ludlow, Robert Thorsten, John Olfert, Jeff Mager, Bill Hibbard, Mike Labay and / or your ticket rep know! Please do so in a polite, considerate email. Their email addresses are: ljones@truenorth.mb.ca jludlow@truenorth.mb.ca rthorsten@truenorth.mb.ca jolfert@truenorth.mb.ca jmager@truenorth.mb.ca bhibbard@truenorth.mb.ca mlabay@truenorth.mb.ca You can also send in snail mail (might have more impact as many emails get ignored) to TRUE NORTH SPORTS & ENTERTAINMENT LTD. 260 Hargrave Street Winnipeg, MB R3C 5S5
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Post by myusernamesucks on Sept 21, 2011 20:25:49 GMT -6
OMG guys. Besides replacing the mesh with plexi glass, absolutely every new arena has this issue. EVERY ARENA! I agree they need to put glass/plexi railings up but any other issue you guys are complaining about is the same in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, San Jose, Minnesota, Chicago, LA etc. I have been to them all and thay all have the same friken railings and obstructions. Yes it sucks but C'est la Vie. It is called BUILDING CODE..... Any of you guys sit between goal lines and blue line in the first 5 rows? Talk about not seeing the whole play or ice for that matter. Thanks for the input.
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Post by the_jaf on Sept 21, 2011 20:26:08 GMT -6
Thanks, will definitely contact them, maybe after the next game when I have some supporting pictures.
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Post by myusernamesucks on Sept 21, 2011 20:26:59 GMT -6
Who can we contact regarding the mesh to plexi glass issue I do have it on fairly good authority (although these plans can easily change) that the change to plexi is in the works. For when I am not sure. It only makes sense.
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Post by stompntom on Sept 22, 2011 13:42:01 GMT -6
OMG guys. Besides replacing the mesh with plexi glass, absolutely every new arena has this issue. EVERY ARENA! I agree they need to put glass/plexi railings up but any other issue you guys are complaining about is the same in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, San Jose, Minnesota, Chicago, LA etc. I have been to them all and thay all have the same friken railings and obstructions. Yes it sucks but C'est la Vie. It is called BUILDING CODE..... Any of you guys sit between goal lines and blue line in the first 5 rows? Talk about not seeing the whole play or ice for that matter. This could have been avoided with the original arena design, If access to the seats was offered from the top of the seating area only then there would be no additional railing except for the front row.
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Post by JETStender on Sept 22, 2011 14:19:13 GMT -6
OMG guys. Besides replacing the mesh with plexi glass, absolutely every new arena has this issue. EVERY ARENA! I agree they need to put glass/plexi railings up but any other issue you guys are complaining about is the same in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, San Jose, Minnesota, Chicago, LA etc. I have been to them all and thay all have the same friken railings and obstructions. Yes it sucks but C'est la Vie. It is called BUILDING CODE..... Toronto and Vancouver have glass, the upper bowl is further back and has a steeper slope so they do not have the same problems.
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Post by JETStender on Sept 22, 2011 14:20:57 GMT -6
OMG guys. Besides replacing the mesh with plexi glass, absolutely every new arena has this issue. EVERY ARENA! I agree they need to put glass/plexi railings up but any other issue you guys are complaining about is the same in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, San Jose, Minnesota, Chicago, LA etc. I have been to them all and thay all have the same friken railings and obstructions. Yes it sucks but C'est la Vie. It is called BUILDING CODE..... Any of you guys sit between goal lines and blue line in the first 5 rows? Talk about not seeing the whole play or ice for that matter. The isle way still has to have higher glass then directy in front of seats. I think it's 54" vs. 42". This could have been avoided with the original arena design, If access to the seats was offered from the top of the seating area only then there would be no additional railing except for the front row.
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Post by jetsman1982 on Sept 23, 2011 5:42:45 GMT -6
I think the MTS Centre needs to change the mesh guard rails in the 300 section to glass to improve the sightlines. I just visited the staples center in Los Angeles and they have glass or plexi glass as a security rail along the balcony in the upper bowl. You have a totally unobscured view. Anyone know who we can make the request to at True North for this? I'm sure some of you agree with the obstructed views. The more people we get, maybe something can be changed. ya i guss you want ticket prices to go up
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Post by jetsorbust on Sept 23, 2011 7:09:40 GMT -6
I think the MTS Centre needs to change the mesh guard rails in the 300 section to glass to improve the sightlines. I just visited the staples center in Los Angeles and they have glass or plexi glass as a security rail along the balcony in the upper bowl. You have a totally unobscured view. Anyone know who we can make the request to at True North for this? I'm sure some of you agree with the obstructed views. The more people we get, maybe something can be changed. ya i guss you want ticket prices to go up 1) Anyone affected by this would probably rather pay more and have an unobstructed view, then pay the same and not be able to see. That said, prices should not go up to make reasonable improvements to the arena. 2) On a happier note, TNSE is well aware of it already. From the day I was shown my seats, the rep said that the metal mesh was changed to plexi glass in the lower bowl way back in 2004, and he assumes it is just a matter of time in the upper bowl. 3) I would actually like to see them go 1 step further, and put in all glass barriers. i.e. without a metal bar going along the top (someone posted earlier that there are arenas with this). It would basically be similiar to top of the glass around the actual rink.
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Post by jetstar9er on Sept 23, 2011 20:41:53 GMT -6
honestly, during the whole "hey we may get a team back & the There isn't a bad seat in the house" hysteria, I towed the line and said "ya, it is awesome" but knew all along there are many many obstructed view seats.
This was my biggest fear when "picking" my seats. Our Moose seats, at centre ice were obstructed by fans heads to the point we couldn't see the corners. We had top row 100 level seats and used to flip the seat up and sit on the end of the seat, giving us a higher view. It seems as if the incline of the seats is too gradual. Not sure how this is possible seeing as the small land space the place was built on.
I am very grateful our 200 level row 2 seats are unobstructed but am well aware of the many many poor view seats, even in the high price areas.
I have to believe the railings are to fall in line with MB building codes (not MN codes, where at the Excel, they have a 1ft plexiglass safety guard, causing no issue to sight lines.
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