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Post by jetsorbust on Sept 29, 2011 10:29:18 GMT -6
Shall we not boo if a ref calls a crappy penalty on the Jets too? No negative vibes! Sorry everyone, I can see I'm in the minority on this board but there is not a fat chance in hell that I would ever cheer Bettman. The Canucks fans wouldn't be looked down upon if they had of stopped booing when the Bruins actually got the Cup and had of just politely clapped (oh and of course if they had of NOT burned their own city down!). But the fact that they booed Bettman would not have even been looked down upon if it isn't for everything that they did after (showing no respect to the Bruins and burning down the city) Bettman is a weasal who was all too eager to get rid of the Jets back in 1995. I agree, there wasn't much going for Winnipeg at the time and it certainly wasn't ALL Bettman's fault, but it doesn't change the fact that he made things even more difficult for us to keep the team, forced us to jump through hoops and realistically, wanted to see the team leave for "greener pastures". In 2011 he needed us. Atlanta had to go somewhere, Phoenix won't be far behind and we were the only place truly ready to take a team, with a building and solid ownership group. Let's not forget that he also charged us a relocation fee (the first of it's kind in league history). Bettman is a tool, plain and simple and does not deserve respect. I don't want him as commissioner and will quite proudly express that opinion. Once he's gone from the microphone at Center Ice, we can get back to cheering on our team. Booing Bettman will not only not take away from the game for me, but will actually add to my enjoyment level. Can't wait for Oct 9th! Go Jets GO! I am not so sure about that. He had no choice, remember we had no owner and no building and no hope of a building. What is he supposed to do? Opening night should be a night of celebrating, why boo him? Boo Carey Price, boo bad calls by the ref. oh and if he is here, lets also have a huge ovation for David Thomson As I have said repeatedly, I do not think it is anywhere close to 100% Bettman's fault that we lost the team. But to say he had no choice is certainly not true, as we've seen in Phoenix if he really wants to keep a team, he can. (Yes, they are completely different situations, but the point remains). The real point here, is can anyone honestly say they aren't convinced that Gary's plan was to move into big Southern markets to chase a TV contract, and that he didn't care if small-market, northern teams were sacrificed in order to do it? I would be pretty surprised if anyone truly didn't think that. So no, it's not all Bettman's fault we lost the Jets, but he was the Commissioner and he was all too happy to see us leave the league while he chased greener pastures. Why should I forgive him? Because Chipman & Thomson steadily built a business model over 15 years that left Bettman with almost no realistic choice but to relocate here with 1 of his failing franchises? Oh yeah, and because he charged us a league-first $60 Million relocation fee??? I don't think so! Chipman and Thomson brought the Jets back. Bettman had no realistic choice but to let it happen. They deserve my applause, but the weasel never will.
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Post by hacky666 on Sept 29, 2011 10:40:44 GMT -6
jetsorbust. In a non homosexual kinda way of course
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Post by rockafella on Sept 29, 2011 12:40:56 GMT -6
Hey jetsorbust, tell us how you really feel. Actually don't, keep your negative energy to yourself.
People who plan on booing for any reason other than a bad call by a ref, etc. on this historic night should think twice about it in my opinion. Show some respect when your in your owners house!
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Post by labatt50 on Sept 29, 2011 12:50:53 GMT -6
no cheer, no boo, just a golf clap from me. ^this is the correct answer.
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Post by jetsorbust on Sept 29, 2011 12:57:45 GMT -6
Hey jetsorbust, tell us how you really feel. Actually don't, keep your negative energy to yourself. People who plan on booing for any reason other than a bad call by a ref, etc. on this historic night should think twice about it in my opinion. Show some respect when your in your owners house! I didn't start the thread. But it sounds like I've finished it! I guarantee you I'll have as much positive energy as anyone in the building next Sunday. But me and I would be willing to wager at least 7000 other people will be using that energy to boo the snot out of Gary 'douchebag' Bettman! If it bothers you I suggest putting a positive spin on it - the more we all boo him, the faster the owners will get the message, the sooner he'll be fired and then there won't be anymore booing! I would be more than willing to explain to Mr. Chipman why I feel the way I do about that weasel.
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Post by pachman40 on Sept 29, 2011 13:23:34 GMT -6
Screw Bettman, this night is not about him and I'll be cheering my guts out instead of booing my guts out. I couldn't care less one way or another that he's in the building and I hope others will also be more concentrated on the Jets than the that guy.
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Post by JayR on Sept 29, 2011 14:23:44 GMT -6
Hey jetsorbust, tell us how you really feel. Actually don't, keep your negative energy to yourself. People who plan on booing for any reason other than a bad call by a ref, etc. on this historic night should think twice about it in my opinion. Show some respect when your in your owners house! I didn't start the thread. But it sounds like I've finished it! I guarantee you I'll have as much positive energy as anyone in the building next Sunday. But me and I would be willing to wager at least 7000 other people will be using that energy to boo the snot out of Gary 'douchebag' Bettman! If it bothers you I suggest putting a positive spin on it - the more we all boo him, the faster the owners will get the message, the sooner he'll be fired and then there won't be anymore booing! I would be more than willing to explain to Mr. Chipman why I feel the way I do about that weasel. Yet you choose to focus on the negative here - Bettman is here, whoopdie do. We have a fricken NHL team, opening night, Canadiens, and you want to worry about when to boo Bettman. More things in life to worry about, like getting in the beer line! ;D
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Post by jetsorbust on Sept 29, 2011 14:28:25 GMT -6
I didn't start the thread. But it sounds like I've finished it! I guarantee you I'll have as much positive energy as anyone in the building next Sunday. But me and I would be willing to wager at least 7000 other people will be using that energy to boo the snot out of Gary 'douchebag' Bettman! If it bothers you I suggest putting a positive spin on it - the more we all boo him, the faster the owners will get the message, the sooner he'll be fired and then there won't be anymore booing! I would be more than willing to explain to Mr. Chipman why I feel the way I do about that weasel. Yet you choose to focus on the negative here - Bettman is here, whoopdie do. We have a fricken NHL team, opening night, Canadiens, and you want to worry about when to boo Bettman. More things in life to worry about, like getting in the beer line! ;D Like I said man, it's not the 1st thing on my mind but the thread title is "Will you Boo Bettman" so that's what I'm talking about! Obviously when I think about Oct 9th Bettman is the last thing that comes to mind, but when he shows his weasely face, I'll have no choice but to let the Boo's start flowing!
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Post by djk on Sept 29, 2011 14:31:46 GMT -6
Why is this still being debated. I suggest that rather than try to change the mind of someone who clearly won't have his mind changed no matter who is telling him not to, just drown out the boo birds with your cheers.
You can bet that if Bettman has any role in the opening that Chipman is probably standing right beside him out there on the ice. So if the boos are louder that's really going to be an awesome feeling for Chipman. :S
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Post by rockafella on Sept 29, 2011 14:38:19 GMT -6
Hey jetsorbust, tell us how you really feel. Actually don't, keep your negative energy to yourself. People who plan on booing for any reason other than a bad call by a ref, etc. on this historic night should think twice about it in my opinion. Show some respect when your in your owners house! I didn't start the thread. But it sounds like I've finished it! I guarantee you I'll have as much positive energy as anyone in the building next Sunday. But me and I would be willing to wager at least 7000 other people will be using that energy to boo the snot out of Gary 'douchebag' Bettman! If it bothers you I suggest putting a positive spin on it - the more we all boo him, the faster the owners will get the message, the sooner he'll be fired and then there won't be anymore booing! I would be more than willing to explain to Mr. Chipman why I feel the way I do about that weasel. You sound like you think that if someone other than Bettman was running the show the Jets would never have left in the first place OR they would have come back a long time ago. We couldn't support a team then, but we can now. doesn't matter if Bettman was in the picture or not. His southern experiment may have failed miserably but that does not change the fact that Winnipeg could not support an NHL team in 95. And when you are booing him at the top of your lungs, remember that if it wasn't for the lockout that this evil doer fought for and stood his ground on the Jets would still be a thing of the past.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Sept 29, 2011 14:48:18 GMT -6
I don't know. The idea of cheering for Bettman seems a little excessive to me. Almost like a case of the Stockholm syndrome. Do you cheer for someone that has corrected a mistake, perhaps even reluctantly? At best you forgive him -- which means maybe you don't boo him.
If Chipman asks the fans not to boo out of respect for his relationship with Bettman, that's different imo...
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Post by rockafella on Sept 29, 2011 14:56:45 GMT -6
Bettman have never come out and said: "darn it, that was my bad. Time to right that wrong".
Bettman was not the reason the Jets left because he made a "mistake".
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Post by jetsorbust on Sept 29, 2011 15:14:07 GMT -6
I didn't start the thread. But it sounds like I've finished it! I guarantee you I'll have as much positive energy as anyone in the building next Sunday. But me and I would be willing to wager at least 7000 other people will be using that energy to boo the snot out of Gary 'douchebag' Bettman! If it bothers you I suggest putting a positive spin on it - the more we all boo him, the faster the owners will get the message, the sooner he'll be fired and then there won't be anymore booing! I would be more than willing to explain to Mr. Chipman why I feel the way I do about that weasel. You sound like you think that if someone other than Bettman was running the show the Jets would never have left in the first place OR they would have come back a long time ago. We couldn't support a team then, but we can now. doesn't matter if Bettman was in the picture or not. His southern experiment may have failed miserably but that does not change the fact that Winnipeg could not support an NHL team in 95. And when you are booing him at the top of your lungs, remember that if it wasn't for the lockout that this evil doer fought for and stood his ground on the Jets would still be a thing of the past. I'm not sure how you think that I sound like that, because I've said time and time again that I'm fully aware that Bettman wasn't the reason why we lost the Jets. No matter who was the commissioner, we PROBABLY would have lost our team. I'm not stupid, I fully understand how the situation was bad in the past, and that many things (arena ownership, salary cup, strong Cdn $, etc) are good now. However, it doesn't change the fact that Bettman was all too happy to throw Winnipeg (and Hartford, and Quebec) under the bus in order to chase his dream of greener pastures in big Southern Markets. So it might not have been his fault that we lost the Jets, but he did nothing to help us, he actively made it harder for us to keep the Jets back in the mid 90's and in my opinion, he's a terrible business man (most teams lose $) who has done a lot more bad for the sport of hockey than good. Plus, on a personal level I find him to be annoying and unexplicably arrogant whenever I hear him talk. And yes he brought in the salary cap but don't fool yourself - he didn't do that for us. The salary cap helps the whole league, not just Winnipeg. Even the Leafs are better off - they bring in a ton of revenue whether they suck or not, now they have an excuse not to spend it all on salaries because of the cap. The salary cap is in my opinion, the one good thing Bettman did (and it's still got some rules that are stupid, like using the average salary as the cap hit, and the high growth rate) but there is 0% chance that he did this for us. He did for every owner in the league back in 2004, not to help Winnipeg get back in. To me, that's enough of a reason to boo him. If it's not to you, then so be it.
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Post by ministerofdefense on Sept 29, 2011 15:52:23 GMT -6
Hey jetsorbust, tell us how you really feel. Actually don't, keep your negative energy to yourself. People who plan on booing for any reason other than a bad call by a ref, etc. on this historic night should think twice about it in my opinion. Show some respect when your in your owners house! I didn't start the thread. But it sounds like I've finished it! I guarantee you I'll have as much positive energy as anyone in the building next Sunday. But me and I would be willing to wager at least 7000 other people will be using that energy to boo the snot out of Gary 'douchebag' Bettman! If it bothers you I suggest putting a positive spin on it - the more we all boo him, the faster the owners will get the message, the sooner he'll be fired and then there won't be anymore booing! I would be more than willing to explain to Mr. Chipman why I feel the way I do about that weasel. Your so special.
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Post by phreload on Sept 29, 2011 16:18:19 GMT -6
I haven't heard if Bettman will stand out in front if the crowd or get on a mic, but if he does he should be booed as no one has ever been booed. If there is one thing Jets fans can agree on, it's the tragedy of the jets leaving. It doesn't matter that our finances were bad and getting worse. Fact: Bettman blocked our deal to keep the team along with 13.5 million of public DONATIONS to keep the team. For that, he is forever the villain. Anyone who says different in my presence gets a backhand slap.
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