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Post by Ric O. on May 18, 2024 7:02:43 GMT -6
Berube is off the market. He's signed with the Leafs. I'm ok with Jets not getting Berube. I think he's a good coach for sure but I tried to picture him behind the Jets bench and could never quite get there. Not sure he's the right guy for this group.
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Post by Ric O. on May 18, 2024 7:07:01 GMT -6
Pretty sure Chevy is just going through the motions. We did our due diligence, and we feel that the best available candidate is...... drum roll.....Scott Arniel! Also, he works cheap and won't be controversial. And, importantly, Scheifele and Connor like him and know they will get their icetime. Surprise us, Chevy. Make a bold move. Show us you're tired of the status quo. For most teams I'd say if they want to give Arniel a shot, fine and I'd get behind him, hoping he gets the most out of the team. Only thing that worries me is how bad would things have to get before he'd get fired? It has a feeling of a loyalty hire (I hope that's not the case) where mediocre results will keep him entrenched for years. On the other hand, as has been pointed out, what chance does any coach have without changes to the make up of the team.
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Post by hillman on May 18, 2024 7:30:50 GMT -6
Pretty sure Chevy is just going through the motions. We did our due diligence, and we feel that the best available candidate is...... drum roll.....Scott Arniel! Also, he works cheap and won't be controversial. And, importantly, Scheifele and Connor like him and know they will get their icetime. Surprise us, Chevy. Make a bold move. Show us you're tired of the status quo. For most teams I'd say if they want to give Arniel a shot, fine and I'd get behind him, hoping he gets the most out of the team. Only thing that worries me is how bad would things have to get before he'd get fired? Mediocre results will keep him entrenched for years. On the other hand, as has been pointed out, what chance does any coach have without changes to the make up of the team. I agree %100. I don't mind them hiring Arniel at all. But they are hiring a coach not marrying him. Dont be afraid to change things if they don't work out. AND on team make-up , after watching parts of last night's games , it is so obvious that the Jets were miles off in intensity, They need players who can crank it up when needed.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on May 18, 2024 10:24:23 GMT -6
For most teams I'd say if they want to give Arniel a shot, fine and I'd get behind him, hoping he gets the most out of the team. Only thing that worries me is how bad would things have to get before he'd get fired? Mediocre results will keep him entrenched for years. On the other hand, as has been pointed out, what chance does any coach have without changes to the make up of the team. I agree %100. I don't mind them hiring Arniel at all. But they are hiring a coach not marrying him. Dont be afraid to change things if they don't work out. AND on team make-up , after watching parts of last night's games , it is so obvious that the Jets were miles off in intensity, They need players who can crank it up when needed. The question is - a more players crank it up? Some just can’t. And this not about the star players. Roslovic and Kulikov have both had very effective playoffs. Roslovic has always been the inconsistent type but he has been high energy for the Rangers. He may be one of those players that thrives in the playoffs. For us, I expected more from Appleton, Nino and Valardi in our series , they seem like playoff type guys. But they were quite.
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Post by 2b9 on May 18, 2024 10:31:07 GMT -6
I agree %100. I don't mind them hiring Arniel at all. But they are hiring a coach not marrying him. Dont be afraid to change things if they don't work out. AND on team make-up , after watching parts of last night's games , it is so obvious that the Jets were miles off in intensity, They need players who can crank it up when needed. The question is - a more players crank it up? Some just can’t. And this not about the star players. Roslovic and Kulikov have both had very effective playoffs. Roslovic has always been the inconsistent type but he has been high energy for the Rangers. He may be one of those players that thrives in the playoffs. For us, I expected more from Appleton, Nino and Valardi in our series , they seem like playoff type guys. But they were quite. On to next season after another first round failure for the Jets while we watch a non Jets Team win the Stanley Cup. 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by sgtbarnes on May 18, 2024 10:51:32 GMT -6
Pretty sure Chevy is just going through the motions. We did our due diligence, and we feel that the best available candidate is...... drum roll.....Scott Arniel! Also, he works cheap and won't be controversial. And, importantly, Scheifele and Connor like him and know they will get their icetime. Surprise us, Chevy. Make a bold move. Show us you're tired of the status quo. For most teams I'd say if they want to give Arniel a shot, fine and I'd get behind him, hoping he gets the most out of the team. Only thing that worries me is how bad would things have to get before he'd get fired? It has a feeling of a loyalty hire (I hope that's not the case) where mediocre results will keep him entrenched for years. On the other hand, as has been pointed out, what chance does any coach have without changes to the make up of the team. The fundamental question is, are you hiring Arniel because you think he's the guy that's going to move the team further toward a championship? Or, are you hiring him just because he's convenient? Already in the building. Maybe it's just the opposite of what you suggest. If Chevy is not able to give him the tools to move forward, easy hire, easy fire. It'd be like, we gave Arnie a shot, he wasn't ready. Explainable failure option.
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Post by hillman on May 18, 2024 12:29:29 GMT -6
I think Arniel was the emergency signing last time in case they couldn't sign who they wanted, so now he's in line to step in. He's got a long history with the club, is well thought of by former head coaches, has experience under multiple coaches with different styles..... There's really no reason to not think of him as a prime candidate. His one failure as a head coach that is often brought up was with a horrendous Jackets team 14 years ago. It means little. Like I said, the real question is, are TN willing to move on if he can't squeeze the best from this lineup ? And can Chevy continue to reshape this lineup into a contender after its regular season success last year?
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Post by 2b9 on May 18, 2024 13:04:03 GMT -6
I think Arniel was the emergency signing last time in case they couldn't sign who they wanted, so now he's in line to step in. He's got a long history with the club, is well thought of by former head coaches, has experience under multiple coaches with different styles..... There's really no reason to not think of him as a prime candidate. His one failure as a head coach that is often brought up was with a horrendous Jackets team 14 years ago. It means little. Like I said, the real question is, are TN willing to move on if he can't squeeze the best from this lineup ? And can Chevy continue to reshape this lineup into a contender after its regular season success last year? All good points. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by ekjet72 on May 18, 2024 19:16:16 GMT -6
I said it before Arniel failed with his PK work. I don't know what else he did while Bones was present but he didnt improve that aspect. If he is hired, TN WILL marry SA. And they won't divorce him. That is so far from their playbook, you know they won't pull the trigger, if they need to fire the guy.
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Post by 2b9 on May 18, 2024 20:21:04 GMT -6
I said it before Arniel failed with his PK work. I don't know what else he did while Bones was present but he didnt improve that aspect. If he is hired, TN WILL marry SA. And they won't divorce him. That is so far from their playbook, you know they won't pull the trigger, if they need to fire the guy. Don’t forget, if he is hired, he won’t be responsible for special teams in any way, he will have to hire PK/PP specialty teams Coaches. We as fans are obviously angry and anxious, however we have to wait it out and see what happens. If we have a disappointing and disastrous season including the playoffs if we make it there, then we as fans can hang everyone out to roast including Chevy. Let’s just wait this out and see where it goes. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by hillman on May 19, 2024 5:50:43 GMT -6
I said it before Arniel failed with his PK work. I don't know what else he did while Bones was present but he didnt improve that aspect. If he is hired, TN WILL marry SA. And they won't divorce him. That is so far from their playbook, you know they won't pull the trigger, if they need to fire the guy. Yet the year before the PK was 5th or 7th ( something like that ) in the NHL under Arniel. Beats me what happened.
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Post by 2b9 on May 19, 2024 8:49:11 GMT -6
I said it before Arniel failed with his PK work. I don't know what else he did while Bones was present but he didnt improve that aspect. If he is hired, TN WILL marry SA. And they won't divorce him. That is so far from their playbook, you know they won't pull the trigger, if they need to fire the guy. Yet the year before the PK was 5th or 7th ( something like that ) in the NHL under Arniel. Beats me what happened. Yep, hard to figure out🤪🤔. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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Post by Tracker on May 19, 2024 12:00:47 GMT -6
I said it before Arniel failed with his PK work. I don't know what else he did while Bones was present but he didnt improve that aspect. If he is hired, TN WILL marry SA. And they won't divorce him. That is so far from their playbook, you know they won't pull the trigger, if they need to fire the guy. Yet the year before the PK was 5th or 7th ( something like that ) in the NHL under Arniel. Beats me what happened. The team culture re-asserted itself. After all, if the team does well, the expectations will be higher the next year, and would mean higher effort, and we just cannot have that.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on May 19, 2024 12:50:36 GMT -6
I said it before Arniel failed with his PK work. I don't know what else he did while Bones was present but he didnt improve that aspect. If he is hired, TN WILL marry SA. And they won't divorce him. That is so far from their playbook, you know they won't pull the trigger, if they need to fire the guy. Yet the year before the PK was 5th or 7th ( something like that ) in the NHL under Arniel. Beats me what happened. It seemed like the year before they were a tad more aggressive on the PK and this year they just sat more in the square box. The best PK's are aggressive on the puck and force oppossing players to think and act quickly.
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Post by 2b9 on May 19, 2024 13:56:47 GMT -6
Yet the year before the PK was 5th or 7th ( something like that ) in the NHL under Arniel. Beats me what happened. The team culture re-asserted itself. After all, if the team does well, the expectations will be higher the next year, and would mean higher effort, and we just cannot have that. Hopefully next season’s playoffs for the Jets are far more successful, if we make it to the playoffs. Not saying that we won’t make the playoffs, however ya just never know. Cheers, 2b9😉😃👍
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