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Post by sting on Oct 1, 2011 20:48:40 GMT -6
I kind of agree with gobombers, I think its slightly unreasonable to expect TNSE to run an NHL team and micromanage each of the 15, 000 fans that are at the games. Like gobombers ive been in the students section and have seen it all, joints, fights, bongs, stuff being thrown, fights with the police etc. It may not be enjoyable but you do have to accept the fact that not everything will go your way when your with thousands of people watching the same game. All the things you mention should not occur at the game. They are illegal activities.
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Post by jetsreborn on Oct 1, 2011 20:50:36 GMT -6
It doesnt take to long to "train" people in your row... at any event I go to, I dont get up to let anyone get by during play. It only takes leaving someone stand there once after a polite "Sorry just wait until the play is over" for them to realise that getting up during play is a bad idea. It happens at the Bomber games all the time and by halftime the "newbies to proper etiquette" seem to understand. yea or they push past you which will happen a lot at a jet game if you get between alot of the fans and thier beer.
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Post by gobombersgo on Oct 1, 2011 20:50:48 GMT -6
I don't need to understand anything. I'm not the one complaining. I don't care what happens in my section, it will not bother be. I've been in student section at the bomber games for 10 years. I have seen it all. Thing about this OP original problem and put it as a question; What can be done in the stands so NO ONE stands up? What can be done so one needs to use the washroom well the games on? What can be done so no one needs a beer, drink, or popcorn for your kids well the game is on? I guess TN will have to install seat belts and put seat belt signs in every section just like in a plane and you are not allowed to take them off until the seat belt is off. TN staff will come up and down every row before the puck will drop for the start of each period to insure everyone is using it. If you need to use the washroom or get something, to bad, that is what the intermission's are for. Then the complaint will come that there is 15,004 people in the concourse all at once and then the line ups are even longer then they already are. People stand, people get beer, people use the washroom. Live with it or like he says, get rid of the ticket and stay home! There is 8000 other people that would love to use it. No, you're not complaining, you're alluding that an individual has the right to enjoy the game no matter what, even if it interferes with another persons right to enjoy the game. That's the problem, everyone wants to be able to enjoy the game day experience but when people start believing that they have an inherent right to act anyway they choose, irregardless of the fact that they may be impeding another spectators' right. Bottom line, everyone wants to have fun, but it shouldn't come at the expense of another. Hacky, your correct. everyone is correct. But that's the way it is and has been forever at sporting events. This is being talked about like this is a first. Doesn't happen anywhere other then Jets games. If you can't deal with it, yet again, stay home, someone else will not have a problem with it because there is absolutely one solution to the problem. You can add more washrooms to help the lines You can change the guard rail to plexi glass to help the site lines. There is nothing you can do about people getting up
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Post by hacky666 on Oct 1, 2011 20:50:58 GMT -6
No, you're not complaining, you're alluding that an individual has the right to enjoy the game no matter what, even if it interferes with another persons right to enjoy the game. That's the problem, everyone wants to be able to enjoy the game day experience but when people start believing that they have an inherent right to act anyway they choose, irregardless of the fact that they may be impeding another spectators' right. Bottom line, everyone wants to have fun, but it shouldn't come at the expense of another. well telling sombody they cant get up during the game may cause that fan to not enjoy the game so it works both ways And I would never say that Like I said, no one is more important than the next and a little courtesy goes a long way.
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Post by jetsreborn on Oct 1, 2011 20:52:12 GMT -6
well the OP seems to think its ok for him to get mad at people who leave thier seats during the game.
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Post by hacky666 on Oct 1, 2011 20:53:28 GMT -6
It doesnt take to long to "train" people in your row... at any event I go to, I dont get up to let anyone get by during play. It only takes leaving someone stand there once after a polite " Sorry just wait until the play is over" for them to realise that getting up during play is a bad idea. It happens at the Bomber games all the time and by halftime the "newbies to proper etiquette" seem to understand. A voice of reason, hallelujah! Etiquette.
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Post by gobombersgo on Oct 1, 2011 20:53:39 GMT -6
I am glad to be sitting with the "suits" in the lower bowl. It sounds like mayhem upstairs. Good thing I have snagged some extra seats to some games upstairs so as that I can join in the fun! I guess if you consider people getting up to use the washroom as mayhem; Yup it's crazy up there!
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Post by sting on Oct 1, 2011 20:54:20 GMT -6
Why is it so hard to get up during breaks in play? There at least 4 chances each period. They even announce not to leave when play starts. Just go during breaks and it would less of a problem.
For the people who say stay home to ones who want to watch the game, you can say the same thing to the ones who come and go all game. Stay at home and drink, it's much cheaper anyway. it goes both ways.
I can't understand why people are upset at the fans actually want to watch hockey.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Oct 1, 2011 20:56:43 GMT -6
Sounds like TNSE should have ushers hand out "Game Etiquette" sheets at a few games... 1) Don't lean forward (this is a problem at many modern arenas); 2) Wait till a break in play to move in or out of your seats; 3) ETC... Standing is a little more difficult as it is often spontaneous and driven by events on the ice...there is also the "standing ovation"... It's about respect...have fun but respect the right of other ticket holders to enjoy the game also...
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Post by gobombersgo on Oct 1, 2011 20:57:10 GMT -6
Why is it so hard to get up during breaks in play? There at least 4 chances each period. They even announce not leave when play starts. Just going during breaks and it would less of a problem. For the people who say stay home to ones who want to watch the game, you can say the same thing to the ones who come and go all game. Stay at home and drink, it's much cheaper anyway. it goes both ways. I can't understand why people are upset at the fans actually want to watch hockey. Sting, The OP was not complaining people were getting up during the play. He is complaining people are getting up during the periods and not at the intermissions. Big difference
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Post by hacky666 on Oct 1, 2011 20:57:25 GMT -6
No, you're not complaining, you're alluding that an individual has the right to enjoy the game no matter what, even if it interferes with another persons right to enjoy the game. That's the problem, everyone wants to be able to enjoy the game day experience but when people start believing that they have an inherent right to act anyway they choose, irregardless of the fact that they may be impeding another spectators' right. Bottom line, everyone wants to have fun, but it shouldn't come at the expense of another. Hacky, your correct. everyone is correct. But that's the way it is and has been forever at sporting events. This is being talked about like this is a first. Doesn't happen anywhere other then Jets games. If you can't deal with it, yet again, stay home, someone else will not have a problem with it because there is absolutely one solution to the problem. You can add more washrooms to help the lines You can change the guard rail to plexi glass to help the site lines. There is nothing you can do about people getting up Au contraire mon frere, not as long as I've been going to sporting/other events. Can you really say "forever"? I don't think so. I do agree with you that common courtesy and decency has dropped within the past little while though.
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Post by jetsreborn on Oct 1, 2011 20:58:30 GMT -6
Why is it so hard to get up during breaks in play? There at least 4 chances each period. They even announce not to leave when play starts. Just go during breaks and it would less of a problem. For the people who say stay home to ones who want to watch the game, you can say the same thing to the ones who come and go all game. Stay at home and drink, it's much cheaper anyway. it goes both ways. I can't understand why people are upset at the fans actually want to watch hockey. there is no rule that says you have to wait till intermission or a tv time out to leave your seat, and if the OP is going to get angry at everyone who leaves thier seat during a game, he is never going to enjoy going to a game this year. I understand the OP's frustration about people standing up in front of him just becasue they want to stand up, but you cant stop people from leaving thier seats.
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Post by hacky666 on Oct 1, 2011 20:58:43 GMT -6
Why is it so hard to get up during breaks in play? There at least 4 chances each period. They even announce not to leave when play starts. Just go during breaks and it would less of a problem. For the people who say stay home to ones who want to watch the game, you can say the same thing to the ones who come and go all game. Stay at home and drink, it's much cheaper anyway. it goes both ways. I can't understand why people are upset at the fans actually want to watch hockey. +1
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Post by jetsreborn on Oct 1, 2011 21:00:57 GMT -6
Sounds like TNSE should have ushers hand out "Game Etiquette" sheets at a few games... 1) Don't lean forward (this is a problem at many modern arenas); 2) Wait till a break in play to move in or out of your seats; 3) ETC... Standing is a little more difficult as it is often spontaneous and driven by events on the ice...there is also the "standing ovation"... It's about respect...have fun but respect the right of other ticket holders to enjoy the game also... i understand the fact its rude to leave your seat during play but the OP seems to think people should be required to only leave thier seats during the intermission which is total BS.
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Post by hacky666 on Oct 1, 2011 21:00:58 GMT -6
Sounds like TNSE should have ushers hand out "Game Etiquette" sheets at a few games... 1) Don't lean forward (this is a problem at many modern arenas); 2) Wait till a break in play to move in or out of your seats; 3) ETC... Standing is a little more difficult as it is often spontaneous and driven by events on the ice...there is also the "standing ovation"... It's about respect...have fun but respect the right of other ticket holders to enjoy the game also... Agreed, totally. Nail meet hammer!
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