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Post by gobombersgo on Jun 29, 2016 11:37:59 GMT -6
I don't know how you say no to (4) 1st round picks.
At the same time I'd hate to see us let a player walk.
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 12:02:25 GMT -6
The guy is not worth a 7 million cap hit a year. That's a joke. The Bruins are in a pickle though. They weren't going to match the last first round pick dman Hamilton (9th overall), so they trade him away for a first and 2 second rounders. Hamilton's cap hit to Flames is 5.75. They have to see Trouba as someone too valuable to pass up and quickly a top 4 and eventually top 1-2 dman.
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Post by tedflash13 on Jun 29, 2016 12:02:36 GMT -6
I don't know how you say no to (4) 1st round picks. At the same time I'd hate to see us let a player walk. For that offer/compensation, I'm already cutting his name off the back of my jersey.
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Post by Grumpz on Jun 29, 2016 12:09:33 GMT -6
I'm not getting my hopes up, no way a team mortgages its future on an average looking defenceman with upside.
4 firsts cripples a team that already has nothing in the cupboards.
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Post by jval07 on Jun 29, 2016 12:11:39 GMT -6
SOURCE: BRUINS PREPARING OFFER SHEET FOR JETS D-MAN JACOB TROUBA By Joe Haggerty June 28, 2016 9:27 PM
According to a hockey source, Don Sweeney and the Boston Bruins “are preparing an offer sheet” this week for Winnipeg Jets defenseman Jacob Trouba as an aggressive option to land a No. 1 defenseman after trades didn’t pan out at last weekend’s NHL Draft.
The Bruins have watched Trouba closely for some time, and clearly have an interest in the 22-year-old D-man with size, offensive abilities and a workhorse nature that’s seen him average more than 22 minutes of ice time per game since entering the league as a 19-year-old.
Trouba is coming off a six-goal, 21-point season while playing in 81 games for the Jets, and was a career-best plus-10 for Winnipeg. With Trouba, a restricted free agent, and the Jets locked into big money deals to fellow right shot D-men in Dustin Byfuglien and Tyler Myers, the writing has been on the wall for some time that the Jets would need to give one of them up.
Now it appears the Bruins may be willing to put their money, and their assets, where their interest is, and come up with an offer sheet that totals a minimum of $47 million for Trouba’s services.
Part of that high total is crafting an offer that the Winnipeg Jets aren’t going to match, and part of that is the Bruins’ own doing while casually tossing away their own draft picks. Because they sent their 2017 third round pick to the Flyers for Zac Rinaldo and their 2017 second round pick to New Jersey for Lee Stempniak, the Bruins must put together an offer sheet with an average annual value (AAV) of at least $9.3 million that will require Boston to give up four consecutive first round picks as compensation.
The good news for the Bruins: for offer sheet purposes, AAV is determined by dividing the total compensation offered by the lesser of the length of the contract, or by five. For contracts longer than five years in term, this will result in a higher AAV than simply dividing the contract total by the number of years.
Example: a 7 year offer sheet worth $49 million total, would be considered an AAV of $9.8 million ($49 million divided by 5) for offer sheet compensation purposes. That means the Bruins could make an offer sheet to Trouba in the $7-8 million per season neighborhood on a seven year deal, a reasonable contract if Trouba turns into the No. 1 defenseman that the B’s are envisioning.
The real price for the Black and Gold would be surrendering four first round picks, but the Bruins have made five first round picks in the last two years while stockpiling their prospect cupboard. The B’s have also been hit-or-miss with their first round picks, so sacrificing a few of them for a surefire, young defenseman would theoretically be worth the price.
Clearly the offer sheet route is the product of Bruins’ frustration at being unable to broker a deal for Kevin Shattenkirk or Cam Fowler last weekend in Buffalo, and at the realization that they need a stud No. 1 defenseman in order to again be competitive in the Eastern Conference. Perhaps even the threat of an offer sheet could spur the Jets into dealing Trouba, just as the threat of an offer sheet pushed forward the trades of Dougie Hamilton and Brandon Saad last season.
Dirty Water Media Bruins reporter James Murphy was also reporting the buzz that the B's are exploring their offer sheet option.
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Post by TheDeuce on Jun 29, 2016 12:11:43 GMT -6
Just heard on the radio again. It would be a 9.3 million offer sheet and four first round drafts. As it turns out it works out to the team of a $7 million/year cap hit. Which sounds suspiciously like: There's a lot of confusion over RFA offer sheet compensation going on here. {snip} This implies that the AAV of their offer sheet would have to be at least $9,388,080 per year up to five years. If they offered a seven year term they could go as low as $6.705 million per year, which is why the o ffer sheet rumour being tossed around is of the 7 year $7 million variety. {snip} m.
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 12:17:23 GMT -6
Just heard on the radio again. It would be a 9.3 million offer sheet and four first round drafts. As it turns out it works out to the team of a $7 million/year cap hit. Which sounds suspiciously like: There's a lot of confusion over RFA offer sheet compensation going on here. {snip} This implies that the AAV of their offer sheet would have to be at least $9,388,080 per year up to five years. If they offered a seven year term they could go as low as $6.705 million per year, which is why the o ffer sheet rumour being tossed around is of the 7 year $7 million variety. {snip} m. Looks like it's up to 9.8 for 7 which guarantees him at least 7 million per year. Otherwise you're right at just over 9.3 cap hit of 6.7. Either way Jets should take the picks and run.
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Post by Tim on Jun 29, 2016 12:18:38 GMT -6
Maybe they can convince Poolman & Tucker to sign?
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 12:20:30 GMT -6
Maybe they can convince Poolman @ Tucker to sign Sounds like a band: The Poolman and Tucker band!
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Post by Grumpz on Jun 29, 2016 12:27:05 GMT -6
Considering Laine hasn't played an NHL game, 4 firsts has the potential impact to dwarf the potential Laine brings.
This franchise is already looking great, this will put us over the top.
Just can't see it happening.
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Post by TheDeuce on Jun 29, 2016 12:32:37 GMT -6
Considering Laine hasn't played an NHL game, 4 firsts has the potential impact to dwarf the potential Laine brings. This franchise is already looking great, this will put us over the top. Just can't see it happening. Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice There was a good quote somewhere on HF: Just what the Western Conference needs. Another four first round draft picks in the hands of the Winnipeg Jets.Our drafting seems to be earning us some respect. m.
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Post by lenny on Jun 29, 2016 12:34:16 GMT -6
Considering Laine hasn't played an NHL game, 4 firsts has the potential impact to dwarf the potential Laine brings. This franchise is already looking great, this will put us over the top. Just can't see it happening. Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice The answer to this (among others) is from the article above which makes sense:"The real price for the Black and Gold would be surrendering four first round picks, but the Bruins have made five first round picks in the last two years while stockpiling their prospect cupboard. The B’s have also been hit-or-miss with their first round picks, so sacrificing a few of them for a surefire, young defenseman would theoretically be worth the price."
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Post by Grumpz on Jun 29, 2016 12:39:50 GMT -6
Considering Laine hasn't played an NHL game, 4 firsts has the potential impact to dwarf the potential Laine brings. This franchise is already looking great, this will put us over the top. Just can't see it happening. Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice The answer to this (among others) is from the article above which makes sense:"The real price for the Black and Gold would be surrendering four first round picks, but the Bruins have made five first round picks in the last two years while stockpiling their prospect cupboard. The B’s have also been hit-or-miss with their first round picks, so sacrificing a few of them for a surefire, young defenseman would theoretically be worth the price." When PHI made their crazy offer to Webber, he was a fantastic defenceman, I can only hope Boston is that delusional. Trouba hasn't shown much, but getting that much in return isn't giving up on him, it's cashing in like a boss!! Posted w/ Grumpz D-vice
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Post by Tim on Jun 29, 2016 12:47:12 GMT -6
Will take the 4 picks then pray for the collapse of the Boston Bruins!
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Post by smokes on Jun 29, 2016 13:05:27 GMT -6
Remember as well that if Trouba goes, that is one less player to protect in the expansion draft, meaning the compensation would be four first round picks, and the ability to protect one more player that we could have lost as Trouba surely would have been protected.
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