loogs
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Post by loogs on Oct 6, 2011 7:38:45 GMT -6
if you listen to the very beginning of the interview it just SCREAMS of why I can't stand this weasel!!!!!!( in a nutshell H&L asked of all the teams in the NHL is it safe to say WPG should be the most jacked for the up coming season?? GB responds with I'm sure the 29 other teams are just as excited???)..he never ever shows a drop of emotion!.. SURE some will say it's part of the job... BS, if I played in the NHL I wouldn't want him speaking of or trying to sell the game, no wonder he needed a glowing puck he couldn't sell water to a man in the desert with that lawyer double talk ( sorry Yukon joe).. maybe I SHOULD LIGHTEN UP, he did sell it to Scruggs and the crew, Jobbing Arena couldn't be in a better location!!!!!!!!!!!??
IF I was at Sundays game I wouldn't boo him nor in a million years would I clap!... silence from me it would be.
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Post by jimmyohhhh on Oct 6, 2011 7:39:34 GMT -6
Every rink in the League boos him. It's really getting quite boring.
On a day when we finally get to cheer our team as they start to play for reg season points, we ought to be upbeat, and give the guy some credit for his part in us having a team again.
Besides the real hero (Chipman) hopes the fans will not boo Bettman.
Now I won't (alas) be at the game, but I'd sure respect Chipman's opinion.
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 6, 2011 7:39:37 GMT -6
There are 30 NHL teams. That's it. Thirty. Winnipeg has one, again. So why are you thinking of booing Gary Bettman again ? 1) He was more than happy to push Winnipeg under the bus to move to big US markets back in the 90's. He did throw up roadblocks back then to make it more difficult to keep the team. 2) He is a smug, condescending weasel of a man who almost everyone who has ever seen/heard dislikes, yet he continues to be the face of the game. It makes no sense. 3) He sucks.
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Post by JayR on Oct 6, 2011 7:40:16 GMT -6
The team plays Sunday and the guy you don't like helped us get the team again. Hell I'm still troubled by th original loss of team in '96. But on a day of celebration of new team, why not keep the thing positive? Agreed Bettman shouldn't show up! Unfortunately he pretty much has to. But fortunately, I literally consider booing Bettman to be a positive. I get the idea I'm in the minority on this board, but I have a feeling a hefty majority of people in the city overall agree. Regardless of my personal feelings (I hate the weasel) I would be absolutely shocked if a majority of the arena didn't boo the crap out of him on Sunday. EDIT - And Jimmyohhh, I honestly agree with your point as much as almost anyone on here. I can see what you're saying when you say boo him any other time but keep Sunday positive. Personally though, I am not even joking when I say booing Bettman is nothing but a positive to me. The sooner the weasel realizes no one in the league likes him, and the sooner the board realizes it, maybe they can finally get rid of him. Keep drinking the strange obsessed hatred for Bettman kool-aid! Like most have said here, you'll be one of a few booing, making yourself look foolish.
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Post by JayR on Oct 6, 2011 7:42:21 GMT -6
There are 30 NHL teams. That's it. Thirty. Winnipeg has one, again. So why are you thinking of booing Gary Bettman again ? 1) He was more than happy to push Winnipeg under the bus to move to big US markets back in the 90's. He did throw up roadblocks back then to make it more difficult to keep the team. 2) He is a smug, condescending weasel of a man who almost everyone who has ever seen/heard dislikes, yet he continues to be the face of the game. It makes no sense. 3) He sucks. 1. Different times, no owner, no money, no building 2. True to a point, but he makes owners money or the BOG would have fired him by now. 3. Sure, but why make it a point on booing on the greatest day in Winnipeg sports history?
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 6, 2011 7:51:25 GMT -6
1) He was more than happy to push Winnipeg under the bus to move to big US markets back in the 90's. He did throw up roadblocks back then to make it more difficult to keep the team. 2) He is a smug, condescending weasel of a man who almost everyone who has ever seen/heard dislikes, yet he continues to be the face of the game. It makes no sense. 3) He sucks. 1. Different times, no owner, no money, no building 2. True to a point, but he makes owners money or the BOG would have fired him by now. 3. Sure, but why make it a point on booing on the greatest day in Winnipeg sports history? 1) That absolutely doesn't matter. I never said he is the reason we lost the team, my whole point is that he made it more difficult for us to keep the team. We likely wouldn't have kept the Jets back in 1996 regardless, but it doesn't change that he did make it more difficult for us. Because he was more than happy to sweep us under the rug. That is the whole issue. 2) With how many failing franchises there are in the league, I don't really get it. You would think he must be making owners money or he'd have been fired by now... but it honestly seems hard to believe with how many bankrupt teams there are. 3) Again, because booing Bettman is a positive. I would throw up (thus getting kicked out of the game) if I tried to cheer him.
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Post by hacky666 on Oct 6, 2011 7:55:15 GMT -6
Booing, the new "Name debate"?
ETA: Keep 'er going jetsorbust, you speak the truth.
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Post by jval07 on Oct 6, 2011 8:23:36 GMT -6
We're still blaming Bettman for the losing the 1.0 Jets eh? Not that we couldn't find a local buyer and forced the NHL to move us or that the city voted yes to a new arena a year too late. Who was going to own our team? Everybody backed off including Izzy. And now that we have a team back we're still mad because he was "forced" to give us a team?
Like I've said before, Bettman comes off to me as a weasel. He looks odd, his eyes do weird things we he talks and he can never just tell it like it is. I'm not a fan of his but we lost our team, he didn't take it from us and we have to get over that.
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Post by TheDeuce on Oct 6, 2011 8:31:35 GMT -6
Here's the thing:
Booing gets us nothing! There's no percentage in it!
No matter what the history is, we get exactly NOTHING if we boo the guy.
If we cheer him? Well, we get to look like the classiest fans on earth, the anti-Canucks fans if you will, we have Gary thinking warm an fuzzy about Winnipeg when deciding where to hold Heritage Classics, Drafts, and All Star Games, and we get a nice dose of Karma for taking the high road.
Plus, Mark Chipman wants us to cheer Gary! Not because he wants to kiss ass to the Commissioner but because he wants the fans to treat his guest and friend with respect. If you can't keep your boos to yourself when Chipman politely requests that you do then you've crossed over into obsession and compulsion land.
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Post by jjmoohead on Oct 6, 2011 8:34:25 GMT -6
Listening to all the bettman hate is funny. I don't like him as much as the next guy but some of you are acting like babies.
Waaa waaa bettmans a wessel waaa waaa everyone hates him waa waa.
who cares. Sunday is not about bettman, its about Winnipeg, its about Manitoba, its about Canada and the sport we all love. It is not about one guy who is the most hated guy in professional sport.
We do have reason to like him (even if I don't). Without him pushing for the changes in the league structure (salary cap) we wouldn't even be considered for the NHL again. He has been talking to us since 2007 for serious consideration and first met with Chipman at the Salt Lake City Olympics. Its not like this was a last minute thing. people for get that.
Lets all go back to crying now.
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Post by enarwpg on Oct 6, 2011 8:43:09 GMT -6
Don't think he was on.. Listened to most of the show... Would have boo'd him while driving..Then it's a good thing you missed it..... There's a high probability you may have become enraged, driven like a maniac, got pulled over by the cops and been given a ticket (no, not to a Jets game )....
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 6, 2011 8:47:31 GMT -6
We're still blaming Bettman for the losing the 1.0 Jets eh? Not that we couldn't find a local buyer and forced the NHL to move us or that the city voted yes to a new arena a year too late. Who was going to own our team? Everybody backed off including Izzy. And now that we have a team back we're still mad because he was "forced" to give us a team? Like I've said before, Bettman comes off to me as a weasel. He looks odd, his eyes do weird things we he talks and he can never just tell it like it is. I'm not a fan of his but we lost our team, he didn't take it from us and we have to get over that. Who blamed Bettman for us losing the team? I haven't heard one person say it was his fault. The fact remains however that he made it more difficult for us to keep the team. It probably wouldn't have mattered anyways, but that's not the point. It's not that we would have kept the team if it weren't for him, it's that he not only did nothing to help us but in fact went out of his way to make it more difficult for us to keep the team. I liken it to coming across a stray, wounded kitten. It probably won't make it, but Bettman still didn't have to boot it in the head.
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 6, 2011 8:53:14 GMT -6
Listening to all the bettman hate is funny. I don't like him as much as the next guy but some of you are acting like babies. Waaa waaa bettmans a wessel waaa waaa everyone hates him waa waa. who cares. Sunday is not about bettman, its about Winnipeg, its about Manitoba, its about Canada and the sport we all love. It is not about one guy who is the most hated guy in professional sport. We do have reason to like him (even if I don't). Without him pushing for the changes in the league structure (salary cap) we wouldn't even be considered for the NHL again. He has been talking to us since 2007 for serious consideration and first met with Chipman at the Salt Lake City Olympics. Its not like this was a last minute thing. people for get that. Lets all go back to crying now. I'm probably the biggest cry baby that you're referring to here, but the funny thing is I actually agree with you in large part. I'm just speaking my mind since there is a thread discussing it. But the thing is, it's really being made into a way bigger thing than it is. Let's face it, Bettman is going to be booed. It seems like there will be a smattering of cheers from some, but overall he will be booed on Sunday if/when he shows his face. And it won't affect anything at all - it's really not a big deal. So to a large degree, why are we even overthinking this? We got a team back and that's awesome. Sunday is going to be the greatest day in Winnipeg history; oh, and yeah Bettman is going to get booed because 80% of people still hate his guts. Might as well get it over with, but it is going to happen.
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Post by USApegger on Oct 6, 2011 8:55:55 GMT -6
We're still blaming Bettman for the losing the 1.0 Jets eh? Not that we couldn't find a local buyer and forced the NHL to move us or that the city voted yes to a new arena a year too late. Who was going to own our team? Everybody backed off including Izzy. And now that we have a team back we're still mad because he was "forced" to give us a team? Like I've said before, Bettman comes off to me as a weasel. He looks odd, his eyes do weird things we he talks and he can never just tell it like it is. I'm not a fan of his but we lost our team, he didn't take it from us and we have to get over that. Who blamed Bettman for us losing the team? I haven't heard one person say it was his fault. The fact remains however that he made it more difficult for us to keep the team. It probably wouldn't have mattered anyways, but that's not the point. It's not that we would have kept the team if it weren't for him, it's that he not only did nothing to help us but in fact went out of his way to make it more difficult for us to keep the team. I liken it to coming across a stray, wounded kitten. It probably won't make it, but Bettman still didn't have to boot it in the head. Unless you were involved in the negotiations back then, you have no idea what happened and neither do I For all we know these roadblocks put up could have been Bettman being the fall guy for all those involved in trying to save the team. Remember these guys still had to do business in Winnipeg, perhaps they realized it couldn't work, the risk was too high. You think they would want that getting out, the backlash could have ruined them
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Post by enarwpg on Oct 6, 2011 9:07:55 GMT -6
Listening to all the bettman hate is funny. I don't like him as much as the next guy but some of you are acting like babies. Waaa waaa bettmans a wessel waaa waaa everyone hates him waa waa. who cares. Sunday is not about bettman, its about Winnipeg, its about Manitoba, its about Canada and the sport we all love. It is not about one guy who is the most hated guy in professional sport. We do have reason to like him (even if I don't). Without him pushing for the changes in the league structure (salary cap) we wouldn't even be considered for the NHL again. He has been talking to us since 2007 for serious consideration and first met with Chipman at the Salt Lake City Olympics. Its not like this was a last minute thing. people for get that. Lets all go back to crying now. I'm probably the biggest cry baby that you're referring to here, but the funny thing is I actually agree with you in large part. I'm just speaking my mind since there is a thread discussing it. But the thing is, it's really being made into a way bigger thing than it is. Let's face it, Bettman is going to be booed. It seems like there will be a smattering of cheers from some, but overall he will be booed on Sunday if/when he shows his face. And it won't affect anything at all - it's really not a big deal. So to a large degree, why are we even overthinking this? We got a team back and that's awesome. Sunday is going to be the greatest day in Winnipeg history; oh, and yeah Bettman is going to get booed because 80% of people still hate his guts. Might as well get it over with, but it is going to happen. You know that for fact or is it just 'wishful thinking' on your part ?
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