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Post by crazycanuck on Oct 12, 2011 19:16:12 GMT -6
Glad this was posted since Zinger has been driving me crazy for weeks now. Talk about a Debbie Downer! The guy should be tap dancing to work everyday but instead its boohoohoo the Moose are gone. Tough life, maybe he will trade jobs with me
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Post by jimsabo21 on Oct 12, 2011 19:21:38 GMT -6
Think about it this way: Over the last decade, would True North have allowed an executive to lament the loss of the Jets, answer questions by saying "I'm more attached to the Coyotes than I am to the Moose" Do you think the Baltimore Ravens executives were belly aching at every interview on how they missed the CFL Stallions? Do you want to hire an executive for your company to openly admits he'd prefer to be at his old job? I just feel like he (as a representative of the Jets) needs to be the #1 cheerleader for the new team, much like a CEO needs to cheerlead his business. If he has negative feelings towards the Jets, he should repress them in public interviews. I feel like he actually hates all the fans that have come out of the woods to cheer for the Jets (that never supported the Moose). Ironically, without these "new fans", TNSE would have failed miserably in their season ticket drive and they'd still be stuck at 7500 fans per game (Moose attendance). Seriously though, if you ask any hockey fans about heroes of Winnipeg hockey, you'll hear names such as Hull, Hawerchuk, Steen, Selanne, Tkachuk and Zhamnov. The names Jimmy Roy and Mike Keane just don't come up. As much as the Moose organization have marketed these guys as "hockey heroes", it just hasn't resonated with many people.
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Post by bigchris on Oct 12, 2011 19:23:24 GMT -6
Heisinger is Mike Smith 2.0, simple as that. He had NO credentials to run an NHL team and now the organization and the media are shoving him down our throats. (The media during the radiocast of the game stated 4-5 times that he should be GM right now.) He politicked his way to the top of the Jets organization and I guarantee he will run this team into the ground Mike Smith style once he tires of Chev and puts the last knife in his back.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Oct 12, 2011 19:27:17 GMT -6
Look up the actual attendance stats. We all know the attendance stats. What zinger fails to mention is in the 80s, hardly any team sold out on a regular basis including Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, etc, etc, etc ... this is a new era of hockey ... did all the above cities "deserve" to lose their teams too??? This is true. He's comparing an era when the Oilers, Canucks and Flames did not sell out either...the NHL is far more popular in Canada than it was back then...the Winnipeg Arena typically was 85% plus full which is about 13,000...average league attendance was much lower and not artificially inflated as much as it is today...but what bothers me is not the lack of context, but just the negative vibe he's giving off re the Jets and NHL...
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Post by rabenga on Oct 12, 2011 19:44:46 GMT -6
We all know the attendance stats. What zinger fails to mention is in the 80s, hardly any team sold out on a regular basis including Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, etc, etc, etc ... this is a new era of hockey ... did all the above cities "deserve" to lose their teams too??? This is true. He's comparing an era when the Oilers, Canucks and Flames did not sell out either...the NHL is far more popular in Canada than it was back then...the Winnipeg Arena typically was 85% plus full which is about 13,000...average league attendance was much lower and not artificially inflated as much as it is today...but what bothers me is not the lack of context, but just the negative vibe he's giving off re the Jets and NHL... I remember DF saying this is why he hated tv interviews because of the cut and paste that would be done by the production crew. DF himself said there was a lot of context that would be lost by editing. I wonder if some things got edited which would have provided more depth into what he was saying.
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Post by bigchris on Oct 12, 2011 19:51:07 GMT -6
Chipman told Hustler and Lawless in no uncertain terms that Heisinger out and out hated the Jets' name and everything associated with it and wanted the team to be the MOOSE and nothing else. (Then when told Moose would NOT be an option Heisinger then went to the mat for Falcons.) If these statements are to be believed then there is NO creative editing on the part of the papers, (who are married to TNSE right now and wouldn't do a hit piece on them at this point.)
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Oct 12, 2011 20:04:31 GMT -6
Chipman told Hustler and Lawless in no uncertain terms that Heisinger out and out hated the Jets' name and everything associated with it and wanted the team to be the MOOSE and nothing else. (Then when told Moose would NOT be an option Heisinger then went to the mat for Falcons.) If these statements are to be believed then there is NO creative editing on the part of the papers, (who are married to TNSE right now and wouldn't do a hit piece on them at this point.) do you have a date or link for that H&L show? thx
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 20:08:49 GMT -6
I don't know why Zinger is so upset - Chipman compromised and let him keep his beloved Mik E Moose. I find it ironic that the Moose legacy is now represented by a stuffed animal that most Manitobans are more likely to shoot or hit with their vehicle.
Get over it Zinger!
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Post by bigchris on Oct 12, 2011 20:12:58 GMT -6
Chipman told Hustler and Lawless in no uncertain terms that Heisinger out and out hated the Jets' name and everything associated with it and wanted the team to be the MOOSE and nothing else. (Then when told Moose would NOT be an option Heisinger then went to the mat for Falcons.) If these statements are to be believed then there is NO creative editing on the part of the papers, (who are married to TNSE right now and wouldn't do a hit piece on them at this point.) do you have a date or link for that H&L show? thx September 14th's H/L show, your welcome.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Oct 12, 2011 20:13:58 GMT -6
do you have a date or link for that H&L show? thx September 14th's H/L show, your welcome. Can anyone dig up a link? I love to hear it...
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Post by Dcmac on Oct 12, 2011 20:17:32 GMT -6
Zinger has gone down in my books, he's just so negative in every interview he's had. The Moose are gone, it's time to move on. The banners are still there, the mascot is still there, what more do you need?
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Post by goto10 on Oct 12, 2011 20:20:51 GMT -6
TNSE had to have seen the final copy before it was released. Having said that, I have no idea why his comments would not be edited a little more.... Heck maybe they were and what we saw was the good part. Absolutely they saw it... and left it in there, I think, for a reason. The message is strong, albeit abrasive. There was a way to save the Jets and that was to go to the games. As Zinger said, he was there, and we weren't. I hope that message lingers in 'Peggers minds; We can't make the same mistake twice. Sure, we sold it out in 5 minutes but like the message or not, I hope Zingers words still ring in our ears 20 years from now.
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Post by bigchris on Oct 12, 2011 20:32:57 GMT -6
Zinger has gone down in my books, he's just so negative in every interview he's had. The Moose are gone, it's time to move on. The banners are still there, the mascot is still there, what more do you need? My question is why is Chipman putting up with this clearly counterproductive attitude unless he supports it? Is he setting up the former Moose people to be fired or is he displaying his contempt for the Jets and their fans through them? This antipathy towards anything Jets from the people who run them is shocking.
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Post by Guardian on Oct 12, 2011 20:47:14 GMT -6
Zinger needs to realize he is not in the hockey business, he is in the entertainment business.
The fans spoke loud and clear that they wanted the Jets.
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Post by dkehler on Oct 12, 2011 20:49:39 GMT -6
TNSE had to have seen the final copy before it was released. Having said that, I have no idea why his comments would not be edited a little more.... Heck maybe they were and what we saw was the good part. Absolutely they saw it... and left it in there, I think, for a reason. The message is strong, albeit abrasive. There was a way to save the Jets and that was to go to the games. As Zinger said, he was there, and we weren't. I hope that message lingers in 'Peggers minds; We can't make the same mistake twice. Sure, we sold it out in 5 minutes but like the message or not, I hope Zingers words still ring in our ears 20 years from now. No. You know who else was there? Me. It was not due to a lack of support that we lost the original Jets. That is putting the blame on the one place where it doesn't belong.
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