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Post by Big Buff on Oct 12, 2011 15:14:57 GMT -6
Really? I never noticed an organ, but I'm also not observant so that's quite possible. The sound though I absolutely agree with the OP about. I still have no idea what the Jets goal song is. I could faintly hear something in the background as the crowd was going nuts after Antropov scored, but I couldn't make out what it was. And even when things were quieter, I could finally hear most announcements but it didn't sound loud or all that clear. The "organ" music is clearly just recorded, not live. It's exactly the same as what they had with the Moose. I saw the organ guy (or at least he had a keyboard) with a guy on Guitar at Moose playoff games last April. Unless the organ/keyboard guy was faking it, which he could have been! haha.
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Post by rabenga on Oct 12, 2011 15:15:00 GMT -6
thegardens: Let's try not to forget that TNSE has transitioned from an AHL franchise to a NHL franchise in about 3-4 months. There are a lot of things that needed to be done and or are still to be done. Other NHL franchises have had years to build that stuff up. Considering the timeframe I think it's a bit early to be slamming TNSE. Let's give them some time to bring MTS Centre and the Jets up to a full calibre before we knock what they are doing. I agree with this post. You can't expect that a change of this magnitude will be completed in just a few short months. The Jets production quality will evolve over time. This is not a finished product but merely a starting point. I expect upgrades on the sound system and scoreboard in the coming years.
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Post by TheDeuce on Oct 12, 2011 15:31:49 GMT -6
I want to preface this by saying I'm happy with everything TN has done. I'm satisfied with the MTS Centre, the team name, the team insignia, the concessions, the whole nine yards, and they've done a good job.
But I keep hearing how they had all of three months to put this all together. I disagree. TN has known since May 2010 that they were next in line to get a team. They were so confident in that knowledge that they redid the press box, despite protestations from Scott Brown saying the press box expansion was planned all along.
There was nothing keeping TN from getting all these things dealt with over the last 12+ months. I don't know the reason why (but I have my suspicions), but they delayed everything until after the team sale was complete. There were a lot of things that got squeezed into the last three months that could have been spread over a year or longer.
That they did it in such a short time is amazing. However, the tight time frame was avoidable.
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 12, 2011 15:35:14 GMT -6
thegardens: Let's try not to forget that TNSE has transitioned from an AHL franchise to a NHL franchise in about 3-4 months. There are a lot of things that needed to be done and or are still to be done. Other NHL franchises have had years to build that stuff up. Considering the timeframe I think it's a bit early to be slamming TNSE. Let's give them some time to bring MTS Centre and the Jets up to a full calibre before we knock what they are doing. I agree with this post. You can't expect that a change of this magnitude will be completed in just a few short months. The Jets production quality will evolve over time. This is not a finished product but merely a starting point. I expect upgrades on the sound system and scoreboard in the coming years. I agree completely. That's why I say I agree with the OP, but that it's just a "meh" thing because it will probably happen when they have time. But the one main thing I think he was right about was just that the opening ceremony lacked a bit of punch. It just seemed to simple/basic for the big event it was. Obviously it was still awesome, I don't think anyone is thinking of not renewing their tickets over it, but to me it is fair to say the opening just wasn't as big a production as it could have been / I was expecting.
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 12, 2011 15:37:26 GMT -6
I want to preface this by saying I'm happy with everything TN has done. I'm satisfied with the MTS Centre, the team name, the team insignia, the concessions, the whole nine yards, and they've done a good job. But I keep hearing how they had all of three months to put this all together. I disagree. TN has known since May 2010 that they were next in line to get a team. They were so confident in that knowledge that they redid the press box, despite protestations from Scott Brown saying the press box expansion was planned all along. There was nothing keeping TN from getting all these things dealt with over the last 12+ months. I don't know the reason why (but I have my suspicions), but they delayed everything until after the team sale was complete. There were a lot of things that got squeezed into the last three months that could have been spread over a year or longer. That they did it in such a short time is amazing. However, the tight time frame was avoidable. m. Bettman putting his foot down with Phoenix sooner would have also given them more time! I said this at the time... the longer Bettman keeps giving the Coyotes (well past their original deadline) to put up or shut up (pay $25M or leave town) meant that TNSE had less time to prep for the Jets. Always blame Bettman!
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Post by jetsreborn on Oct 12, 2011 15:48:59 GMT -6
I agree with this post. You can't expect that a change of this magnitude will be completed in just a few short months. The Jets production quality will evolve over time. This is not a finished product but merely a starting point. I expect upgrades on the sound system and scoreboard in the coming years. I agree completely. That's why I say I agree with the OP, but that it's just a "meh" thing because it will probably happen when they have time. But the one main thing I think he was right about was just that the opening ceremony lacked a bit of punch. It just seemed to simple/basic for the big event it was. Obviously it was still awesome, I don't think anyone is thinking of not renewing their tickets over it, but to me it is fair to say the opening just wasn't as big a production as it could have been / I was expecting. TNSE didnt want to do a big elaborate show before the game, they tried to keep the focus on the game that was being played and less on the pre game stuff.
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Post by selanne405 on Oct 12, 2011 16:00:55 GMT -6
Well said ^
I love how classicly Winnipeg this thread is, like after waiting 15 years to get our NHL team back we complain that the pre game crap was boring. The 2 parties on P and M, the 2 parties at the forks, the social at the Convention Centre and the one held at Republic by Evander Kane were enough "celebration",
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 12, 2011 16:01:31 GMT -6
I agree completely. That's why I say I agree with the OP, but that it's just a "meh" thing because it will probably happen when they have time. But the one main thing I think he was right about was just that the opening ceremony lacked a bit of punch. It just seemed to simple/basic for the big event it was. Obviously it was still awesome, I don't think anyone is thinking of not renewing their tickets over it, but to me it is fair to say the opening just wasn't as big a production as it could have been / I was expecting. TNSE didnt want to do a big elaborate show before the game, they tried to keep the focus on the game that was being played and less on the pre game stuff. No offense, but to me that is a bit of a cop-out. Once the game starts, the focus will be on the game. How does having an awesome show before the game take anything away from the game? Again, I'm not really complaining per say, just saying that I agree with the OP. The day of the game, I was basically thinking to myself "hmm... I expected a bit bigger of a production" but I never said it aloud to anyone.
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Post by rabenga on Oct 12, 2011 16:17:19 GMT -6
I want to preface this by saying I'm happy with everything TN has done. I'm satisfied with the MTS Centre, the team name, the team insignia, the concessions, the whole nine yards, and they've done a good job. But I keep hearing how they had all of three months to put this all together. I disagree. TN has known since May 2010 that they were next in line to get a team. They were so confident in that knowledge that they redid the press box, despite protestations from Scott Brown saying the press box expansion was planned all along. There was nothing keeping TN from getting all these things dealt with over the last 12+ months. I don't know the reason why (but I have my suspicions), but they delayed everything until after the team sale was complete. There were a lot of things that got squeezed into the last three months that could have been spread over a year or longer. That they did it in such a short time is amazing. However, the tight time frame was avoidable. m. Is it not possible that the reason TNSE did not pursue any upgrades starting last year was to continue keeping their pursuit of the NHL on the down low as much as possible. I think that they wanted to contain the ROTJ fever as much as possible. They did everything the opposite of Balsille and that is why they didn't move forward with the upgrades. There are probably financial reasons as well for them to wait. I can see how banks will provide more unsecured loans due to there being an NHL team in the MTS Centre, they should also be able to get more direct or indirect public funding for improvements. Lastly, now they have open access to other NHL buildings; they can talk to the production crew and people that are in charge of the in house operations throughout the league and implement best practices of the league. Just my thoughts.
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Post by slinky on Oct 12, 2011 16:18:51 GMT -6
THREE WORDS----WORK IN PROGRESS.
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 12, 2011 16:19:42 GMT -6
I want to preface this by saying I'm happy with everything TN has done. I'm satisfied with the MTS Centre, the team name, the team insignia, the concessions, the whole nine yards, and they've done a good job. But I keep hearing how they had all of three months to put this all together. I disagree. TN has known since May 2010 that they were next in line to get a team. They were so confident in that knowledge that they redid the press box, despite protestations from Scott Brown saying the press box expansion was planned all along. There was nothing keeping TN from getting all these things dealt with over the last 12+ months. I don't know the reason why (but I have my suspicions), but they delayed everything until after the team sale was complete. There were a lot of things that got squeezed into the last three months that could have been spread over a year or longer. That they did it in such a short time is amazing. However, the tight time frame was avoidable. m. Is it not possible that the reason TNSE did not pursue any upgrades starting last year was to continue keeping their pursuit of the NHL on the down low as much as possible. I think that they wanted to contain the ROTJ fever as much as possible. They did everything the opposite of Balsille and that is why they didn't move forward with the upgrades. There are probably financial reasons as well for them to wait. I can see how banks will provide more unsecured loans due to there being an NHL team in the MTS Centre, they should also be able to get more direct or indirect public funding for improvements. Lastly, now they have open access to other NHL buildings; they can talk to the production crew and people that are in charge of the in house operations throughout the league and implement best practices of the league. Just my thoughts. Yeah and didn't the province enter into an agreement of some form to help fund arena improvements when the ROTJ was announced? They said this was negotiated over a period of years, so I would say that likely had something to do with it. (i.e. the province would help pay for some costs, but only once the NHL was here)
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Post by jetsreborn on Oct 12, 2011 16:22:52 GMT -6
TNSE didnt want to do a big elaborate show before the game, they tried to keep the focus on the game that was being played and less on the pre game stuff. No offense, but to me that is a bit of a cop-out. Once the game starts, the focus will be on the game. How does having an awesome show before the game take anything away from the game? Again, I'm not really complaining per say, just saying that I agree with the OP. The day of the game, I was basically thinking to myself "hmm... I expected a bit bigger of a production" but I never said it aloud to anyone. and all im saying is its not becasue TNSE attempted to go big and failed, it was thier choice to go low key.
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Post by chootem on Oct 12, 2011 16:29:43 GMT -6
I agree with some of the OP's observations as they are fairly obvious. On the other hand, it was our first game and most of these issues are probably already being remedied. Thank you Scott Burnside for chiming in, now continue on with your quest to save hockey in the desert.
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Post by jetsorbust on Oct 12, 2011 16:37:43 GMT -6
No offense, but to me that is a bit of a cop-out. Once the game starts, the focus will be on the game. How does having an awesome show before the game take anything away from the game? Again, I'm not really complaining per say, just saying that I agree with the OP. The day of the game, I was basically thinking to myself "hmm... I expected a bit bigger of a production" but I never said it aloud to anyone. and all im saying is its not becasue TNSE attempted to go big and failed, it was thier choice to go low key. If that's the case (and I suppose it's quite possible) then fair enough. To me, the only true disapointment was the score! The fans alone made the atmosphere awesome, I just had to admit I was a bit surprised there wasn't more of an "event" made out of the game since there can only ever be one franchise opener.
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Post by jjmoohead on Oct 12, 2011 17:16:57 GMT -6
I will admit that when I first started reading and say "these are simple facts". I just turned it off. Sorry but this is simply your opinion and not facts.
I decided to give you a chance as you put a lot of effort into it. I had some really good things to say here, but I am a little put off by your "typical winnipeger, can't take anything negative" comment.
Is it worth countering your opinion? Will you come at me the same way?
Anyway...stupid replies to pointless posts aside. Here are some of things you have wrong, IMO.
1)The scoreboard is perfect for our arena.
2)You don't honor all the old jets one night. You spread it out over time. TNSE did a great job already knowing this. Since you were at the game you already know they did honor some of the jets greats. Not shown on TV. Loved how they honored the old moose too.
3) Most of what you what you complain about is easily changed in the future. You are forgetting that TNSE has done what they have done in a very short time period. It is not so much "missed" as maybe more a lack of time. TNSE should be praised for all their efforts with so little time to be prepaired. 6 weeks for Jersey compared to 18 months? SICK!
4) Most of the top NHL clubs have been doing this for years. Our team is brand new. Its NHL and not AHL. Its a step up, and for their first try on short notice, we were right up there with the best. The speakers for example as you so nicely pointed out...All Moose games besides the very odd one was only lower bowl. No need to upgrade the speakers. However, I will not agree that we have the worst in the league. YOu obviously have not been to all of them, if you have you must have not paid attention. We are not great, but not the worst....however I send you back to number 3.
5) I love the extremely small comment on the arena. Its like you are the first person to mention this lol. Its perfect for Winnipeg. No point going into this, its discussed a billion times already. The lobby area was actually pretty packed and they had a live band up stairs. Lots of people were singing along. Guess that doesn't count as pregame activities though.
Anyway, all you have told us is Opinion. Not Simply facts. Thats all I want to stess out of your post. Present your opinion is fine, jsut don't act like you know all and present it as such. Just makes you look nitpicky and comes across badly.
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