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Post by Prairiegirl on Jul 12, 2012 20:10:13 GMT -6
There is a big difference between not winning a Grey Cup, and not doing anything though. And your comment about fans still supporting the Bombers is an insult to all Bomber fans. A true fan doesnt just stop supporting thier team because they havent won a cup. Very well said. And a Karma for you Real fans and there, day in and day out, through the good and the bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 23:37:21 GMT -6
That's true, but it's not the only reason I hate the Blue Bombers. They are a horribly-run sports franchise. The Bombers have let Canad Inns Stadium basically fall apart. They've handled the new stadium horribly (HORRIBLY) since day 1. There are more drunks at Bomber games than sober people. The ownership has been a complete mess for over a decade. The whole franchise is just so .. so.. juvenile. Bush league. That's not a knock on the CFL, which I find is very high quality football. It's a knock on our ownership. I really wanted David Asper to take over this team. What's so great about "community ownership" anyways? It sucks! And the worst part is, die hard Bomber fans don't care. Can you imagine if Edmonton went 23 years without a Grey Cup?! The fans there would be furious. But Blue Bomber fans expect so little from this franchise, few seem to care- or even notice. Canad Inns Stadium could collapse (upper deck falling onto the lower deck) and these same fans wouldn't care - or even notice. Certainly not complain. It's like... just because this franchise has been here for 80+ years & just because your dad/grandpa had season tickets DOESN'T mean we should just blindly support this team. The franchise has been in desperate need of a makeover for decades. And that "new" logo that looks like it took about 30 seconds to design wasn't a good start. The Blue Bombers are in the midst of bumbling and stumbling their way through a 23rd straight disappointing CFL season. And I'm very, very glad I'm not a die-hard fan. Because I would have been very, very upset these past 23 Novembers ! And all die-hard Blue Bomber fans can do is offer excuses. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Phew! quite the rant. Oh, Slippy the Troll! You so crazy!
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Post by slippy on Jul 13, 2012 0:14:57 GMT -6
How am I a troll pdenny? Explain. Next, show me where it says "Bomber lovers ONLY!" as part of this forum's rules. ... I'm wating...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 1:32:07 GMT -6
How am I a troll pdenny? Explain. Next, show me where it says "Bomber lovers ONLY!" as part of this forum's rules. ... I'm wating... I wouldn't want to keep you "wating" any longer, so.... There aren't any rules stating that the forum is for Bomber lovers only. You're right! Congrats! HOWEVER... seeing that it is a pro- Winnipeg sports forum, you would have to think that someone stating continuous blunt negativity towards said sports city, its teams and its flipping fans, would have to be exhibiting troll-like symptoms. Now, I'm no physician, but I would definitely say that you do, in fact, display these symptoms and would have to be deemed as someone who is carrying this disease, although, you may not be officially labelled with trollitis. I do believe trolls are allowed on here and that they are considered somewhat harmless (and humorous). So, say what you will. But if you keep bashing Bomber fans on a Winnipeg sports forum, you should probably be prepared for somewhat of a backlash. Does this shock you?
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Post by jetsv2 on Jul 13, 2012 1:52:59 GMT -6
If you dont like the Bombers keep it to yourself, this is a thread about the play on the field this season, and we dont need your BS negativity about why you think we should all abandon our team. Again I point to the Leafs as an example, you say it doesnt count becasue they play in a 30 team league. Id like to point out that they havent won a championship in 45 years, and for much of that time the leauge was a lot smaller than 30 teams.
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Post by jetsorbust on Jul 13, 2012 7:10:00 GMT -6
IMO Penny has a point to some extent about the way the Bombers are run. Personally, I like that they are community owned but I don't think that changes the fact that they have had crappy management.
And it is sad that they are in an 8 team league and haven't won in 23 years.
BUT, the answer isn't to stop supporting our team. That's what would make us crappy fair weather fans. I do agree there should be some pressure on the Bomber board, CEO and GM to start putting together some success however.
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Post by maniaaron on Jul 13, 2012 8:42:20 GMT -6
^ the GM of the bombers is J Mack and this is his 3rd year, they had some success last year
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Post by jetsorbust on Jul 13, 2012 11:11:57 GMT -6
^ the GM of the bombers is J Mack and this is his 3rd year, they had some success last year I'm aware, I'm just saying in general and I would say the board/executive is where the most fault lies. Overall what I'm saying is I think we all have to admit, it is somewhat pathetic that the Bombers haven't won in so long, so there should have been some changes to how this team is run. I think that is almost safe to call fact. But what my opinion is, is that I like it being community owned and I think community ownership can work, it just hasn't for some time.
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Jul 13, 2012 16:38:35 GMT -6
That's true, but it's not the only reason I hate the Blue Bombers. They are a horribly-run sports franchise. The Bombers have let Canad Inns Stadium basically fall apart. They've handled the new stadium horribly (HORRIBLY) since day 1. There are more drunks at Bomber games than sober people. The ownership has been a complete mess for over a decade. The whole franchise is just so .. so.. juvenile. Bush league. That's not a knock on the CFL, which I find is very high quality football. It's a knock on our ownership. I really wanted David Asper to take over this team. What's so great about "community ownership" anyways? It sucks! And the worst part is, die hard Bomber fans don't care. Can you imagine if Edmonton went 23 years without a Grey Cup?! The fans there would be furious. But Blue Bomber fans expect so little from this franchise, few seem to care- or even notice. Canad Inns Stadium could collapse (upper deck falling onto the lower deck) and these same fans wouldn't care - or even notice. Certainly not complain. It's like... just because this franchise has been here for 80+ years & just because your dad/grandpa had season tickets DOESN'T mean we should just blindly support this team. The franchise has been in desperate need of a makeover for decades. And that "new" logo that looks like it took about 30 seconds to design wasn't a good start. The Blue Bombers are in the midst of bumbling and stumbling their way through a 23rd straight disappointing CFL season. And I'm very, very glad I'm not a die-hard fan. Because I would have been very, very upset these past 23 Novembers ! And all die-hard Blue Bomber fans can do is offer excuses. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Phew! quite the rant. Im not sure you understand the difference between "fact" and "opinion". Everything you stated is your opinion. And also happens to be wrong.
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Post by The Unknown Poster on Jul 13, 2012 16:41:49 GMT -6
Also, its far too simplistic to say they have been mismanaged.
The Bombers nearly fell into bankruptcy at a time when the CFL as a whole was in trouble and many teams were having financial issues. Winnipeg as a city was also not doing well.
They brought in Lyle and whether you love him or hate him, he turned the team around financially (and took us to a Grey Cup).
The team now makes a profit and fields a competitive roster. The only thing they could have done better is to have won in the Grey Cup game. Finishing second is not bad.
Bomber management and Canad Inn management are two different things. The amount of money that stadium would have needed to rejuvenate it are staggering. Its old. Its reached end of life. Period.
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Post by slippy on Jul 13, 2012 22:00:15 GMT -6
Unknown Poster said:
PROVE IT.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 22:59:48 GMT -6
Unknown Poster said: PROVE IT.Shhhhhhhh!
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Post by slippy on Jul 13, 2012 23:07:05 GMT -6
pdenny I'm sorry to say this, but if we were in the same room right now, I'd give you a dirty look. And then probably later regret it because I'm a super nice guy in person.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 2:12:07 GMT -6
pdenny I'm sorry to say this, but if we were in the same room right now, I'd give you a dirty look. And then probably later regret it because I'm a super nice guy in person. Well, I never!
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Post by Grumpz on Jul 15, 2012 9:51:52 GMT -6
So Pierce goes down......AGAIN!
SERIOUSLY!
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