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Post by lenny on Sept 26, 2017 9:39:17 GMT -6
Blame it on the racist cops right! Whites are 62% of the population and blacks 13% in the USA. Half of the police killings are white and a quarter are black but when you factor in that blacks commit proportionately far more of the crime, one study on felonies - 330 per 100,000 for whites and 1,178 per 100,000 for blacks it is not surprising. Victimology is a popular thing but when you keep using it as a crutch and especially when it's animated by a bunch of millionaire spoiled athletes then it stinks. Nothing to do with numbers or ratios. When I hear about a black waving a gun around high as hell, and he gets killed, no argument. When I see footage, and we all have, of an 18 yr old kid getting 6 in the chest, with both hands exposed, and the cop away with it. Totally different. Then of course you've got Rodney. Just came across this tweet. Wow. Heavens. Blacks calling whites 'cracker', Lebron calling Trump a 'bum' as if racism is not a two-way street. And whites being killed in cold blood by police that never happens: When a police shooting victim is a white womanwww.vox.com/identities/2017/7/24/16019440/justine-damond-police-shooting-raceAnd: "Constable Bobby Smith wanted to serve a warrant to Brandon Stanley, who tried to evade him. Smith tracked Stanley down to a convenience store and shot him dead. Around the same time in Arizona, Daniel Shaver was playfully waving a pellet gun out of a motel window. A police officer detained him, and despite Shaver complying with all of his demands (there is a video) shot him dead. Also around this time in North Dakota, James Scott, allegedly intoxicated, dropped a gun and fled police officers but refused to put his hands up when detained; they shot him dead. The men in these cases were white, not black, and yet all three were killed by police officers under circumstances that would almost surely have elicited indignant protest nationwide if they were black." time.com/4404987/police-violence/
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Post by USApegger on Sept 26, 2017 9:49:18 GMT -6
It seems that if you are against the way the NFL is protesting, then you are a racist.
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Post by lenny on Sept 26, 2017 9:54:49 GMT -6
Blame it on the racist cops right! Whites are 62% of the population and blacks 13% in the USA. Half of the police killings are white and a quarter are black but when you factor in that blacks commit proportionately far more of the crime, one study on felonies - 330 per 100,000 for whites and 1,178 per 100,000 for blacks it is not surprising. Victimology is a popular thing but when you keep using it as a crutch and especially when it's animated by a bunch of millionaire spoiled athletes then it stinks. Nothing to do with numbers or ratios. When I hear about a black waving a gun around high as hell, and he gets killed, no argument. When I see footage, and we all have, of an 18 yr old kid getting 6 in the chest, with both hands exposed, and the cop away with it. Totally different. Then of course you've got Rodney. Just came across this tweet. Wow. Here is Snoop Dogg - the President is a cracker you know it!
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Post by Tommy on Sept 26, 2017 9:55:51 GMT -6
If Iived in a country that either condoned or turned a blind eye to racism, you damn well bet I'd do whatever protest if it could somehow get a message across. African Americans are being killed by white cops for minding there own business. No weapons present, just harsh language. Nothing more disrespectful than that. This has nothing to do with the flag, and everything to do with Racism. Trump hasn"t once directed a tweet at the gutless coward who plowed through that group of protestors, but he goes off a few guys taking a knee? blank him, blank the flag and blank racism. Racism, White Suppremacy , are just words liberals use to shut down debate, The liberals and Democratic Party, are the root cause of urban decay in "their" inner cities. Liberals are and have been out to destroy any vestige in patriotism and proven moral behaviours. Trump has tremendous support among minorities. Who want jobs, safe neighbourhood and an optimistic future. As for Charlottesville, the police where told to "stand down" creating the volitile circumstances, for the bussed in, paid for protesters. All Trump said was "there's blame on both sides" and he was right on!
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Post by wolfmannick on Sept 26, 2017 10:07:33 GMT -6
This isnt a conservative/ liberal issue, some people just believe their opionion is right and put people down for disagreeing with them. Look at time thomas a few years ago and how he got ripped apart by the media for making political comments on twitter and protesting going to the white house. Similar but to a smaller scale. This national anthem protest and those who critisice it has gone way out of control. People label each other as either a traitor as a racist it has, escuse the expression become a black and white issue when its far more complex. I dont like the protests because it has the feel of a publicity stunt, i dont see thess athletes who claim to care so much about black rights, speaking in schools or doig events in the commmunity and these protests are going on when the issue of cuncussions and cte are the main discussion in pro sports. Now the potus is making remarks about the protests that just add fuel to the fire because now it has the impression hes trying to tske the first amendment away. Governments dont want people to unify because there the ones responsible for opression, not so much the civil servants who work for them.
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Post by rickybobby on Sept 26, 2017 10:25:43 GMT -6
This tread has completely gone off the rails as far as relating to the Jets, mods please move this to the appropriate location.
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Post by lenny on Sept 26, 2017 10:39:23 GMT -6
Well let's put it back on the rails then. Wheeler completely misunderstood or doesn't understand what the issue was/is. If it was about the First Amendment and free speech we could all rally around that notion. It isn't. If it were Goodell would have allowed the Cowboys to put a little sticker on their helmets commemorating the slaughter of 5 police officers in Dallas Texas by a BLM'er racist. Instead he allows the athletes to disrespect the flag of a country which allows these same athletes the opportunity to make millions of dollars under the Red, White and Blue and which same flag his customer base honours and serves under. It's about a gutless Commissioner and gutless billionaires who leech off their state so they can proudly call themselves owners of a franchise. As an example: How the NFL Fleeces Taxpayers www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/10/how-the-nfl-fleeces-taxpayers/309448/Also: "Neither the Saints nor the NBA Pelicans (also owned by Benson) pay rent to the state to use the Mercedes-Benz Superdome and Smoothie King Center, buildings built and operated by the state. But Benson does get to keep all revenue associated with games there, including ticket sales, concessions and parking, and they don’t pay sales tax on those revenues. Benson also keeps naming rights money for the buildings. The state of Louisiana also paid $85 million for a recent round of upgrades to the Superdome." etc. etc.
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Post by jval07 on Sept 26, 2017 11:07:29 GMT -6
For all those that care sooooo much about these athletes standing for the anthem... you get off your couch when watching a game on TV as soon as anthem comes on? Doubt it. Ever been in the Jets concourse when the anthem comes on? People still walking to and fro... still paying or ordering their beers. Disrespect for anthems/flags happens every day by regular citizens.
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Post by jval07 on Sept 26, 2017 11:11:24 GMT -6
If Iived in a country that either condoned or turned a blind eye to racism, you damn well bet I'd do whatever protest if it could somehow get a message across. African Americans are being killed by white cops for minding there own business. No weapons present, just harsh language. Nothing more disrespectful than that. This has nothing to do with the flag, and everything to do with Racism. Trump hasn"t once directed a tweet at the gutless coward who plowed through that group of protestors, but he goes off a few guys taking a knee? blank him, blank the flag and blank racism. Racism, White Suppremacy , are just words liberals use to shut down debate, The liberals and Democratic Party, are the root cause of urban decay in "their" inner cities. Liberals are and have been out to destroy any vestige in patriotism and proven moral behaviours. Trump has tremendous support among minorities. Who want jobs, safe neighbourhood and an optimistic future. As for Charlottesville, the police where told to "stand down" creating the volitile circumstances, for the bussed in, paid for protesters. All Trump said was "there's blame on both sides" and he was right on! Omg... I need to leave this thread now.
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Post by lenny on Sept 26, 2017 11:14:11 GMT -6
For all those that care sooooo much about these athletes standing for the anthem... you get off your couch when watching a game on TV as soon as anthem comes on? Doubt it. Ever been in the Jets concourse when the anthem comes on? People still walking to and fro... still paying or ordering their beers. Disrespect for anthems/flags happens every day by regular citizens. There's a big difference sitting on your @ss or on your knee as an act of phony protest IN THE GAME itself and you at home or getting a beer at the concourse though I have seen people stop in the concourse as well. It's like whoever goes to church, do you burp, fart and curse at church like you do at home? If you can't see the difference then I guess you can move on.
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Post by Tommy on Sept 26, 2017 11:21:00 GMT -6
This tread has completely gone off the rails as far as relating to the Jets, mods please move this to the appropriate location. Up until yesterday, I respected Blake Wheeler for being smart and staying out of politics. He chose to pick sides as did a lot of Canadian players and Tv analysts. To anyone who understands the background here, there is the other side of the story to tell. if you watched TSN Hockey last night they were all over it in their typical liberal media bias. The days of conservatives not speaking up are over.
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Post by Lions67 on Sept 26, 2017 12:21:00 GMT -6
This is crazy! Taking a knee is not disrespect. Standing and then TURNING YOUR BACK would be though!
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Post by bcjet on Sept 26, 2017 12:44:14 GMT -6
How about moving this to water cooler, this has moved from what Blake said to Politics.
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Post by loogs on Sept 26, 2017 14:26:13 GMT -6
...do you really think Donny Moscow gives two Crap es about who does what while a song is playing? ... during the same time you all have been belly aching about this he lost his Obama Care repeal, his daughter, son in law, and six members of white house staff have been exposed for using private emails ( remember "lock her up" )and just today it turns out Mike Flynn and Paul Manafort will probably be indicted!!!... MASTER OF DISTRACTION!!
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Post by jval07 on Sept 26, 2017 14:28:29 GMT -6
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