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Post by 2b9 on Jun 24, 2023 17:25:04 GMT -6
L.A. D-Man, Sean Durzi traded to Arizona. L.A. Gets Arizona’s 2024 second round draft pick. Actually it's MTL's 2024 2nd round pick, via Arizona. Wonder if that means LA is out of the running for Dubois or just that Winnipeg wasn't interested in Durzi being a part of the return? Interesting. Doesn’t matter, a pick is a pick. Don’t think that this has anything to do with it, thinking that there are numerous teams involved on this PLD trade, it’s all about numbers and players, I’m sure that you know what I am saying. This is a complicated trade/PLD. More to come, I’m sure of it.
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Post by hillman on Jun 24, 2023 18:00:27 GMT -6
Ya, lots of rumors around. It sounds like things are happening
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Post by Tracker on Jun 24, 2023 18:23:20 GMT -6
Getting bored with all the maybe rumours. Get it done.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Jun 25, 2023 8:49:03 GMT -6
L.A. D-Man, Sean Durzi traded to Arizona. L.A. Gets Arizona’s 2024 second round draft pick. Actually it's MTL's 2024 2nd round pick, via Arizona. Wonder if that means LA is out of the running for Dubois or just that Winnipeg wasn't interested in Durzi being a part of the return? Interesting. Article today, either on SN or the Athletic saying the Durzi trade was to free up cap space and the Kings have two younger guys who can fill the Durzi role. I would suspect the Jets don’t need to add more D without bailing on some first. Best time to bail on some D may be at the trade deadline. Pionk would be a candidate at that time.
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Post by Tracker on Jun 25, 2023 9:05:00 GMT -6
Actually it's MTL's 2024 2nd round pick, via Arizona. Wonder if that means LA is out of the running for Dubois or just that Winnipeg wasn't interested in Durzi being a part of the return? Interesting. Article today, either on SN or the Athletic saying the Durzi trade was to free up cap space and the Kings have two younger guys who can fill the Durzi role. I would suspect the Jets don’t need to add more D without bailing on some first. Best time to bail on some D may be at the trade deadline. Pionk would be a candidate at that time. Agreed. Pionk has had a very bad year and will have to be traded at a discount.
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Post by shakinallover on Jun 25, 2023 10:31:01 GMT -6
The "4" are on the market but there seems to be limited interest. It might be in the Jets interest to make them package deals such as: Dubois and Stanley, Scheiffle and Schmidt, Helle and Heinola, or Wheeler and Demelo. Mix em up any way you want. They'll have to sweeten the pot which may mean some prospects. Philly has some cap space. A suggested deal is to swap first round picks, send them Scheiffle, Stanley, Heinola for T Sanheim and Couturier. No harm in asking.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Jun 25, 2023 10:54:27 GMT -6
The "4" are on the market but there seems to be limited interest. It might be in the Jets interest to make them package deals such as: Dubois and Stanley, Scheiffle and Schmidt, Helle and Heinola, or Wheeler and Demelo. Mix em up any way you want. They'll have to sweeten the pot which may mean some prospects. Philly has some cap space. A suggested deal is to swap first round picks, send them Scheiffle, Stanley, Heinola for T Sanheim and Couturier. No harm in asking. Limited interest? There is no way of knowing what the interest level is or isn’t. The piece today I referred to had LA going even harder for PLD. Fact is Chevy HAS to trade PLD and Helle and probably 55. For Helle and 55 you can’t risk an injury so they are untradeable at the deadline.
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Post by bigoljetairliner on Jun 25, 2023 12:21:40 GMT -6
www.thefourthperiod.com/jun-2023/kings-jets-working-on-dubois-tradeNew article about Dubois to LA trade, indicating Iafallo/Villardi and other pieces are likely involved. Not sure how accurate it is. Jets would be getting two 2nd liners (projected 53 to 50 pts last yr) that they would have control of for at least 2 seasons. Not exactly great, but better than Montreal's Anderson/Dvorak put up. Problem for Winnipeg is what they gave up to get PLD, but a possible better comparison would be the Debrincat trade to Ottawa, that fetched a 1st (7th overall), 2nd, and a 3rd pick. Not sure how Villardi & Iafallo would translate to draft picks, but Villardi was a 11th overall pick in 2017 and Iafallo certainly would fetch a 3rd in a trade, so the Jets would be missing a 2nd round pick in that scenario. However, saying a center is more valuable than a winger, let's put the missing piece closer to a mid to late round 1st. So I guess it all depends on what the other pieces are. If they also included Byfield, it would be pretty nice. Would a 1st round pick in 2024 improve things? A couple 2nds?
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Jun 25, 2023 12:29:15 GMT -6
You cant look at this trade in terms of what the Jets traded to get PLD. Fact is, the sour locker room cost them Laine and then essentially cost them PLD or a more solid chance at him. This is 100% on the team, not on any of the players.
The locker room issues have cost this team a lot and rebuilding it so players want to stay here is a huge task. It starts with moving all problem players out and those that do not want to be here.
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Post by hillman on Jun 25, 2023 13:17:56 GMT -6
Weibe is reporting Harkins would be part of the Kings deal. Vilardi and Lafallo ++ coming back this way
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Jun 25, 2023 14:28:06 GMT -6
Weibe is reporting Harkins would be part of the Kings deal. Vilardi and Lafallo ++ coming back this way Harkins? Deal breaker LOL
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Post by Tracker on Jun 25, 2023 14:48:52 GMT -6
You cant look at this trade in terms of what the Jets traded to get PLD. Fact is, the sour locker room cost them Laine and then essentially cost them PLD or a more solid chance at him. This is 100% on the team, not on any of the players. The locker room issues have cost this team a lot and rebuilding it so players want to stay here is a huge task. It starts with moving all problem players out and those that do not want to be here. It occurred to me today that just maybe Byfuglien decided to bail because of the locker room dysfunction and drama. He probably had enough savings that he really didn't need to put up with crap.
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Post by 2b9 on Jun 25, 2023 15:58:34 GMT -6
Weibe is reporting Harkins would be part of the Kings deal. Vilardi and Lafallo ++ coming back this way Harkins? Deal breaker LOL 😉👍👊.
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Post by gobombersgo on Jun 25, 2023 17:29:29 GMT -6
You cant look at this trade in terms of what the Jets traded to get PLD. Fact is, the sour locker room cost them Laine and then essentially cost them PLD or a more solid chance at him. This is 100% on the team, not on any of the players. Just today!!! The locker room issues have cost this team a lot and rebuilding it so players want to stay here is a huge task. It starts with moving all problem players out and those that do not want to be here. It occurred to me today that just maybe Byfuglien decided to bail because of the locker room dysfunction and drama. He probably had enough savings that he really didn't need to put up with crap.
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Post by manilow78 on Jun 25, 2023 17:41:35 GMT -6
Just my little rant for the day. I would take ANYTHING back from LA just to stop Montreal from getting him. I was reading all the trash talk about how we should take a crap deal like Dvorak, Anderson and pick 31 and be thankful. That the mighty Habs will get him for free next year so they will do us this big favour by taking him now for such a garbage offer. Another writer commented on the superior nature of Habs management and how easily they should be able to take Dubois off our hands. All I can say is I hope that brilliant management team enjoys several more years of having Dvorak, Anderson, Drouin and Hoffman on the ledger. GET THIS TRADE TO THE FINISH LINE!!!
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