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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Oct 18, 2023 17:40:09 GMT -6
Because there are too many games in an NHL season......
82 games, dragged out over 7 to 8 months including preseason, and not including playoffs.
The NHL has diluted itself with way to many games.
I'd propose ending the season mid march at about 72 games in the regular season, 4 in the preseason.
Now, a game against Arizona in February will suddenly mean more by neccessity in the standings, and subsequently, also in October.
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Post by lenny on Oct 18, 2023 18:09:31 GMT -6
Because there are too many games in an NHL season...... 82 games, dragged out over 7 to 8 months including preseason, and not including playoffs. The NHL has diluted itself with way to many games. I'd propose ending the season mid march at about 72 games in the regular season, 4 in the preseason. Now, a game against Arizona in February will suddenly mean more by neccessity in the standings, and subsequently, also in October. I like your suggestion. The NHL has such a lengthy season for revenue purposes generally including tv revenue. I think if the model was readjusted to begin earlier beginning of September with 3 pre-season games. But this business of multiple pre-seasons games and Oct. start carries it well into June which is ridiculous. |
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Post by 2b9 on Oct 18, 2023 18:10:31 GMT -6
Because there are too many games in an NHL season...... 82 games, dragged out over 7 to 8 months including preseason, and not including playoffs. The NHL has diluted itself with way to many games. I'd propose ending the season mid march at about 72 games in the regular season, 4 in the preseason. Now, a game against Arizona in February will suddenly mean more by neccessity in the standings, and subsequently, also in October. Don’t forget about our current economical situation, the raising of rates/done by the Bank of Canada has crippled/crushed people renewing their mortgages, it also affects renters/renters live in buildings-dwellings owned by investors, their mortgage rates have gone up due to renewing, inflation of groceries/prices up, shrinkflation, you pay more and get less, gas prices inflation, along with that, absolutely everything else no matter what it is has gone up in price, people’s wages have not gone up in accordance to everything else that has gone up. People are now making choices that they didn’t necessarily do in the past, where do I cut expenses to make up the money that I need to keep up? Answer: Cut out other things so that I am able to keep up, that includes cutting out going to Jets games. |
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Post by DEATHBYPOPCORN1990 on Oct 18, 2023 20:30:41 GMT -6
Agree 100% 2b9......
I think what you have said is the unsaid rationale behind my statement, the money isn't out there to support 41 home games (regular season)
Cutting out some of these "filler" games from the other conference.....Florida, Carolina, Columbus, The Islanders, whoever.......
A more modest 36 games or maybe less, will drive up interest, and scarcity always increases demand.
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Post by ekjet72 on Oct 18, 2023 20:45:51 GMT -6
Because there are too many games in an NHL season...... 82 games, dragged out over 7 to 8 months including preseason, and not including playoffs. The NHL has diluted itself with way to many games. I'd propose ending the season mid march at about 72 games in the regular season, 4 in the preseason. Now, a game against Arizona in February will suddenly mean more by neccessity in the standings, and subsequently, also in October. Don’t forget about our current economical situation, the raising of rates/done by the Bank of Canada has crippled/crushed people renewing their mortgages, it also affects renters/renters live in buildings-dwellings owned by investors, their mortgage rates have gone up due to renewing, inflation of groceries/prices up, shrinkflation, you pay more and get less, gas prices inflation, along with that, absolutely everything else no matter what it is has gone up in price, people’s wages have not gone up in accordance to everything else that has gone up. People are now making choices that they didn’t necessarily do in the past, where do I cut expenses to make up the money that I need to keep up? Answer: Cut out other things so that I am able to keep up, that includes cutting out going to Jets games. So I wonder how the wife and I did it with 2 young kids back in the late 70s and 80s. My first mortgage was 14% and we ate KD and home made pizza was big too. I think the big difference was that household debt was miniscule. So we could tolerate some price hikes. We rented, had one car and walked to school bare feet in the snow. And we scored enough cash to share 2 ST with another couple. Parked for free at MHS building on Empress with a plug for the old car heater. Those were the days in the Prairie Town. Complete with rose coloured glasses. Which fogged up every time you left the old arena. Another part weighing on people was the end of the year STH drive. Which pissed alot of people off. I wonder how many people thought they were being taken for granted and threatened at the same time!? |
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Post by sgtbarnes on Oct 18, 2023 23:15:40 GMT -6
I read that NHL attendance was up across the league last year. The southern teams seem to be doing real well. Hockey is hot in Dixie, apparently. The Hurricanes averaged 19.5K.
From the attendance numbers I've looked at, most of the Canadian teams are pretty solid. Ottawa was around 16500 last year. Calgary and Edmonton in the 18000 range. No need to mention the Leafs and Habs. Vancouver always draws well. Even when they suck.
Nope. Don't think the owners are shortening up the season anytime soon. It'll be interesting to see the numbers as this season progresses.
The Jets averaged 14000 last year. Hopefully we start trending in the right direction.
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Post by lenny on Oct 19, 2023 9:23:13 GMT -6
We tend to panic on this stuff because the weight of concern arises given the prejudicial manner we are dealt with by the higher ups. Betmn is a culprit here. A franchise like the Yotes who have been a perpetual blight on this league presently performing in a 5000 seat garbage can is the prime example. And yet there was Betmn recently touting them and their prospects for continued functioning.
How about in 2014 where the Panthers in their season opener in their big arena drew only 11,419 fans. And the very next game the lowest recorded attendance in history of 7,311. These were league games. If the product is not performing then one can expect hits. Up to that point the Panthers made the playoffs just once since 2000 and finished last and second to last in the league the two prior seasons.
Carolina Hurricanes - their average attendance between 1997 and 2000 was 9,897. Between 2014-2019 their average attendance was 12,867. It's not surprising when they made their playoff run and win against the Oilers in 2006 where their attendance rose but even then it was only 15,500 or so. The last few years their attendance is way up because they have had a very good and competitive teams.
The Islanders in 2019 October game - 9,923.
The average attendance for the Bolts between 1998 and 2002 was 13,934.
You can go down the line on numerous NHL teams. Perform and you will get the payoff. The last game is a prime example of what has happened repeatedly with this franchise. Appears they just give up when the chips are down. Remember after the Western Conference year the next year how they laid an egg in the playoffs. Home games have been a disaster the last few years with poor performances upon poor performances.
Shut up Chipman. You signed Maurice to a contract and didn't inform the public. Someone from the press leaked the information and then you had to deal with it. Was it because you were embarrased you extended him? What about the rot you let to fester in the team which inevitably showed up on the ice? What about the alienation of the #2 pick in the world Laine which occurred BECAUSE you allowed rot and cliques to enter into the room? What about fat juicy contracts to guys the preponderance of the contract in the declining years and the last two players (Scheif and Helle at the end of the season expressing no loyalty to the franchise except to take an exit if things were not to their liking)? What about that stupid video you ran last year picturing a cold and miserable and destitute Winnipeg and trying to scare people into buying tickets because of the veiled threat of moving regardless of the product YOU are responsible for putting on the ice?
The fact of the matter is I believe if the Jets keep laying eggs at home like they did last game and repeatedly over the last several years the attendance will suck. But hey, that never effected teams like the Panthers, Islanders and Hurricanes? Only in Winnipeg are veiled threats made. Get an exciting product on the ice Chipman and stop with the propaganda.
And i disagree with the notion if the Jets had a significant rebuild then they could not afford that. What the Jets couldnt afford was their useless loyalty game; trying to foist the status quo on personel, coaching, players, management etc on the fans and pretending that a fresh new start was oh so scary. I say that because of a little piece by TSN propping up this bs notion regarding a true rebuild.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Oct 19, 2023 12:41:00 GMT -6
This is a tough market. Firstly, and maybe most importantly, population wise. Montreal was horrible last year. Yet their attendance was through the roof. 4 million people to draw from will get bums in the seats, even with a bottom feeder.
Edmonton, Calgary and Ottawa have significantly more people than Winnipeg, and they are considered small market teams. We're not a preferred player destination. The Jets are at a huge disadvantage. We all know that. The solution is a better hockey team. A winner. Chevy has failed to deliver. Maybe too much for any GM to overcome, but it's probably time to give someone else a go. We can blame some of the disinterest on the economy. A small city suffers more. But the disinterest has been bred over a 5 year stretch of a disinterested team. To me, this is Chevy's make or break year. Either get past the 1st round or hand over the reins.
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Post by sgtbarnes on Oct 19, 2023 13:07:42 GMT -6
Bring up Lucious, Chibrikov and Lambert. Move Lambert or Lucious to the wing. Call them the Kid Line. That'll get you at least one sellout.
If we're going to lose hockey games, let's do it with some speed.
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Post by honeybadger on Oct 19, 2023 14:11:27 GMT -6
Thats the result of a goalie who at times looks stunnigly slow and signs for big money! Broissant for me any game. My impression for many a year now? One great game ---tty the next three? NHLs great illusion?
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Post by sgtbarnes on Oct 19, 2023 15:06:00 GMT -6
Thats the result of a goalie who at times looks stunnigly slow and signs for big money! Broissant for me any game. My impression for many a year now? One great game ---tty the next three? NHLs great illusion? Hellebuyck is now being paid in the upper echelon of goaltenders. Most don't agree with the length of the contract. He now has to be the best goaltender on the ice more often than not. So far he hasn't been. He has a reputation as a slow starter. What strikes me is that one has to go back a few years to find a playoff series where he outplayed his opponent. He has to steal games. Somewhat consistently. For quite a few years to come. If he doesn't, this could be a legacy contract of regret. I like the guy. But honestly, I think they should have moved him. |
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Oct 19, 2023 15:59:08 GMT -6
Bring up Lucious, Chibrikov and Lambert. Move Lambert or Lucious to the wing. Call them the Kid Line. That'll get you at least one sellout. If we're going to lose hockey games, let's do it with some speed. This team will not bring up the young guys just for attendance - and we can go to a Moose game to see them frankly - they wont mess with the needed development. Maybe later in the year if we were out of the playoffs they can recall for a few games. Covid, recession and the fact that the team has played poorly for several years (outright awful from an entertainment perspective) all have lead to fans dropping off. Not to mention the teams conceited approach towards fans. |
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Post by 2b9 on Oct 19, 2023 17:23:09 GMT -6
Bring up Lucious, Chibrikov and Lambert. Move Lambert or Lucious to the wing. Call them the Kid Line. That'll get you at least one sellout. If we're going to lose hockey games, let's do it with some speed. This team will not bring up the young guys just for attendance - and we can go to a Moose game to see them frankly - they wont mess with the needed development. Maybe later in the year if we were out of the playoffs they can recall for a few games. Covid, recession and the fact that the team has played poorly for several years (outright awful from an entertainment perspective) all have lead to fans dropping off. Not to mention the teams conceited approach towards fans. Great post/comment😃😉👍! Thank you👍! |
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Post by sgtbarnes on Oct 19, 2023 17:55:36 GMT -6
Bring up Lucious, Chibrikov and Lambert. Move Lambert or Lucious to the wing. Call them the Kid Line. That'll get you at least one sellout. If we're going to lose hockey games, let's do it with some speed. This team will not bring up the young guys just for attendance - and we can go to a Moose game to see them frankly - they wont mess with the needed development. Maybe later in the year if we were out of the playoffs they can recall for a few games. Covid, recession and the fact that the team has played poorly for several years (outright awful from an entertainment perspective) all have lead to fans dropping off. Not to mention the teams conceited approach towards fans. I wasn't serious. |
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Post by ovi1 on Oct 19, 2023 18:12:50 GMT -6
The rink sucks. Pain in the ass to get there after work and then you get crammed in like a sardine can. Then the screaming man telling us to make some noise . blank off…. also the drum beating … blank off.
After all that, the jets usually suck.
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