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Post by LTZ on Oct 16, 2011 12:24:16 GMT -6
Nope. This isn't why we are 3-0. And I don't get all the criticism of Antropov...he seems to be an easy target, but he hasn't been the worst player at all. He actually has had a a few scoring opportunities and is more noticeable out there than some invisible forwards. He does appears slow, but he's always appeared that way, not just since joining the Jets. He's a big guy at 6'6. Edit: what has Evander Kane done out there? A lot of people were saying he's ready to breakout and become the next Iginla. Why? Because he shares some heritage? He's been invisible and is hardly getting any criticism either...puzzling how be gets pumped up but a free pass when he does nothing. Exactly. Kane has done nothing and I don't think it has anything to do with who his linemates are.
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Post by lukemiguez on Oct 16, 2011 13:13:56 GMT -6
Edit: what has Evander Kane done out there? A lot of people were saying he's ready to breakout and become the next Iginla. Why? Because he shares some heritage? He's been invisible and is hardly getting any criticism either...puzzling how be gets pumped up but a free pass when he does nothing. So basically you're saying that people who refer to Evander Kane as the "next Jarome Iginla" are doing so because they're both black? Because that isn't the reason why.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Oct 16, 2011 13:21:30 GMT -6
Edit: what has Evander Kane done out there? A lot of people were saying he's ready to breakout and become the next Iginla. Why? Because he shares some heritage? He's been invisible and is hardly getting any criticism either...puzzling how be gets pumped up but a free pass when he does nothing. So basically you're saying that people who refer to Evander Kane as the "next Jarome Iginla" are doing so because they're both black? Because that isn't the reason why. The thought crossed my mind, but let me ask you a question. Over 900 hockey players play in the NHL each season. Do you think the only reason people compare Kane to Iginla is due to their style of play and that it has nothing to do with shared background?
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Post by lukemiguez on Oct 16, 2011 13:40:19 GMT -6
So basically you're saying that people who refer to Evander Kane as the "next Jarome Iginla" are doing so because they're both black? Because that isn't the reason why. The thought crossed my mind, but let me ask you a question. Over 900 hockey players play in the NHL each season. Do you think the only reason people compare Kane to Iginla is due to their style of play and that it has nothing to do with shared background? Maybe for some people, but not the majority who've seen both play. Kane's a power forward in Iginla's mold, but likely without the intangibles that Iginla brings. Their ethnicity is just a coincidence. I don't think he's played badly either. It's possible that benching Kane and limiting his TOI in order to try to maximise his performance (on Noel's part) has actually encouraged him to try too hard.
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Oct 16, 2011 13:51:36 GMT -6
The thought crossed my mind, but let me ask you a question. Over 900 hockey players play in the NHL each season. Do you think the only reason people compare Kane to Iginla is due to their style of play and that it has nothing to do with shared background? Maybe for some people, but not the majority who've seen both play. Kane's a power forward in Iginla's mold, but likely without the intangibles that Iginla brings. Their ethnicity is just a coincidence. I don't think he's played badly either. It's possible that benching Kane and limiting his TOI in order to try to maximise his performance (on Noel's part) has actually encouraged him to try too hard. You honestly believe of all the players in the NHL, Kane style of play is most similar to Iginla? That he couldn't be compared to many other goal scoring 'power forwards' and it is just a 'coincidence' he's compared to Iginla? Anyway, that was not my main point. My point was that certain players get criticized (or praised) almost out of habit. Antropov has a goal and is a plus/minus 0 on a team that has let in 13 goals in 3 games. Kane hasn't done much yet -- zero points and is a minus 2. I am expecting more from him as many see him as a potential franchise type player. I hope he picks things up. If he turns out to be anything like Iginla, Jets fans will be very happy...
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Post by crow on Oct 16, 2011 14:04:28 GMT -6
I think that's y the coaches gave them the " optional skate" today it's more for the management to see who is committed and who r the passengers on this team!!
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Post by NHLWinnipeg on Oct 16, 2011 14:08:46 GMT -6
I think that's y the coaches gave them the "oppositional skate" today it's more for the management to see who is committed and who r the passengers on this team!! optional??
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Post by gallivan on Oct 16, 2011 14:08:48 GMT -6
Nope. This isn't why we are 3-0. And I don't get all the criticism of Antropov...he seems to be an easy target, but he hasn't been the worst player at all. He actually has had a a few scoring opportunities and is more noticeable out there than some invisible forwards. He does appears slow, but he's always appeared that way, not just since joining the Jets. He's a big guy at 6'6. Edit: what has Evander Kane done out there? A lot of people were saying he's ready to breakout and become the next Iginla. Why? Because he shares some heritage? He's been invisible and is hardly getting any criticism either...puzzling how be gets pumped up but a free pass when he does nothing. Kane is one of many Jets who need to wear the goat horns thus far. At least Kane looks like he's trying. Has anybody seen Bryan Little yet? I know he has dressed for the games, but has he seen the ice? Should we put his photo on milk cartons? How about Blake Wheeler... he skates like he's just on a date at the Forks skating rink in February.
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Post by jetdog on Oct 16, 2011 14:11:09 GMT -6
Giveaways. It's the giveaways. Don't think I've ever seen a team cough the puck up more than this team has in the last three games. Part of it is the youth but a big part of it is the defense are all, save perhaps Hainsey and Stuart, playing like garbage. And why would Byfuglien be so 'anti-Winnipeg' and want out? He's a Minnesota boy for crying out loud. Those guys aren't your usual whiney toads who want only to play in the big, glitzy markets. I think that's silly talk. Sorry Peggers, it's going to be a long, long season for this team. I personally think Noel and company should just spend the year working on making this team a good one. Send Scheifele back to junior so he can grow into being a stud forward, and play for Canada's WJC team. Work on the small things that turn into bigger ones when the entire team performs in sync, ala - the fundamentals etc. Get rid of the dead skin and try to build moving forward. But for crying out loud, don't freak about a losing season. I hope we blow chunks the entire year and land the first overall pick in the 2012 draft. Think of a Nail Yakupov being added to a young core with Kane, Scheifele, Bogosian, Burmistrov (who is really looking like he could become a lights out talent), Wheeler, Cormier and MacLean. If there is ever a time to just roll through a season, where the fans will be forgiving, this is the one. Why struggle to barely make the playoffs, riding momentum from boisterous, quick-to-forgive fans, only to land a middling draft pick who won't give the team what it needs. This team needs a superstar (in the making) to elevate from the average, which it is now. In two or three years the young guys will have it all figured out and this team should be pretty decent. But it's going to take some time. So why not aim for adding at least one more high end talent to go with what is already there. Look at the Oilers. They blew themselves up and rebuilt properly. In two or three years they should be sick good. With patience and smart building, the Jets could be there, too, in a couple of years. Patience fellow fans. Patience.
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Post by swervinmervin on Oct 16, 2011 14:12:55 GMT -6
Agree with comment by davebabych above . I get the impression it's going to take some time and some discipline to iron out numerous hangover kinks from last season. Evaluation of success may have to wait till sometime after Christmas.'in my view, it might take that long.
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Post by djk on Oct 16, 2011 14:49:10 GMT -6
This thread is kind of laughable. It's the thread of can't do Winnipeg instead of can do Winnipeg. Can we all get off the paranoia train please? This team will win and things will start to look better. We're 0-3, not 0-30. No need to panic.
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Post by JETStender on Oct 16, 2011 21:27:03 GMT -6
This thread is kind of laughable. It's the thread of can't do Winnipeg instead of can do Winnipeg. Can we all get off the paranoia train please? This team will win and things will start to look better. We're 0-3, not 0-30. No need to panic. 0-82 who cares, we got a team!
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Post by selanne on Oct 16, 2011 22:11:20 GMT -6
Nope. This isn't why we are 3-0. And I don't get all the criticism of Antropov...he seems to be an easy target, but he hasn't been the worst player at all. He actually has had a a few scoring opportunities and is more noticeable out there than some invisible forwards. He does appears slow, but he's always appeared that way, not just since joining the Jets. He's a big guy at 6'6. Edit: what has Evander Kane done out there? A lot of people were saying he's ready to breakout and become the next Iginla. Why? Because he shares some heritage? He's been invisible and is hardly getting any criticism either...puzzling how he gets pumped up but a free pass when he does nothing. Maybe Kane is getting a "free pass" because he just turned 20 two months ago...yeesh!
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Post by ovi1 on Oct 16, 2011 22:46:30 GMT -6
I don't even know how this thread got this far.... True North had their ears. Any play as much a dreams at night without a sound of not wanting to be in Winnipeg will be on the first plane ticket out.
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Post by jetsv2 on Oct 16, 2011 23:19:33 GMT -6
I don't even know how this thread got this far.... True North had their ears. Any play as much a dreams at night without a sound of not wanting to be in Winnipeg will be on the first plane ticket out. have you been drinking? becasue that post is really hard to understand.
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