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Post by manilow78 on Aug 15, 2023 14:26:05 GMT -6
I know we are somewhat stalled with Scheifele and Hellebuyck, but what about a signing. A guy I am curious about is Max Comtois. He is a 6' 2" , 210 lbs and although stalled in his progress, could be a big upgrade to our bottom 6. Thoughts? Would be a good fit on a line with Lowry?
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Post by bigoljetairliner on Aug 15, 2023 16:18:08 GMT -6
I know we are somewhat stalled with Scheifele and Hellebuyck, but what about a signing. A guy I am curious about is Max Comtois. He is a 6' 2" , 210 lbs and although stalled in his progress, could be a big upgrade to our bottom 6. Thoughts? Would be a good fit on a line with Lowry? Was a member of the 2018 Canadian World Juniors squad that the NHL is investigating and worries about the findings ( reports saying they expect 5 current NHLers will be suspended) of that may be keeping teams away from him. Not trying to suggest that Comtois was involved in any way, as it might be the cloud of the scandal alone that has kept him unsigned to this point.
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Post by martin4444 on Aug 15, 2023 19:44:31 GMT -6
yah I like Max Comtois too, guy was hot couple years ago has size and is physical and can get him cheap
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Post by iceland2018 on Aug 23, 2023 5:07:40 GMT -6
You are so right. Barlow making the team as an 18 year old and given a real chance to learn on the fly, take his lumps and play with the big boys would be like old school NHL, and something for us fans to take to heart. A kid to root for. I thought the same thing about Lambert, when he showed some pre-season flashes. But, we know how the Jets work. They're so worried about maintaining mediocrity, no risks are taken. We can't rush these players. Another 2 years of junior, then the AHL. 5 years down the road, we'll see what we have. The Chevy formula for a bubble team. I think Lambert and Barlow on the roster could be a lot of fun. I'm not worried about immediately but it also doesn't have to be five years down the road. It kind of unmotivates these kids. If they are close give them a legitimate shot. I think the Jets have done well in deciding when it is time to bring up prospects to the NHL. If we really look at it, there has never really been a case of the Jets not giving a certain player a shot, going somewhere else and becoming a star. With Petan, Comrie, Petan, Niku, etc., they haven't gone on to anything great. If the Jets do not think Heinola is ready for the NHL, I have no reason to doubt this call.
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Post by Tracker on Aug 23, 2023 12:44:51 GMT -6
I'm not worried about immediately but it also doesn't have to be five years down the road. It kind of unmotivates these kids. If they are close give them a legitimate shot. I think the Jets have done well in deciding when it is time to bring up prospects to the NHL. If we really look at it, there has never really been a case of the Jets not giving a certain player a shot, going somewhere else and becoming a star. With Petan, Comrie, Petan, Niku, etc., they haven't gone on to anything great. If the Jets do not think Heinola is ready for the NHL, I have no reason to doubt this call. And if Heinola isn't ready by now, he will never be.
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Post by iceland2018 on Aug 24, 2023 2:48:33 GMT -6
I think the Jets have done well in deciding when it is time to bring up prospects to the NHL. If we really look at it, there has never really been a case of the Jets not giving a certain player a shot, going somewhere else and becoming a star. With Petan, Comrie, Petan, Niku, etc., they haven't gone on to anything great. If the Jets do not think Heinola is ready for the NHL, I have no reason to doubt this call. And if Heinola isn't ready by now, he will never be. Heinola has probably a slightly higher ceiling than Stanley. However, I think he is a 2nd pairing D-man at best. He is only 22, so he still has time to improve.
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Post by Tim on Aug 28, 2023 13:22:26 GMT -6
And if Heinola isn't ready by now, he will never be. Heinola has probably a slightly higher ceiling than Stanley. However, I think he is a 2nd pairing D-man at best. He is only 22, so he still has time to improve. Disagree Stanley can always get better as a player, but Heinola can't get bigger and size matters when your going to be a 2nd 3rd pairing Dman.
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Post by 2b9 on Aug 28, 2023 17:41:09 GMT -6
Heinola has probably a slightly higher ceiling than Stanley. However, I think he is a 2nd pairing D-man at best. He is only 22, so he still has time to improve. Disagree Stanley can always get better as a player, but Heinola can't get bigger and size matters when your going to be a 2nd 3rd pairing Dman. Interesting thought on your part. Stanley hasn’t reached his peak yet due to injuries and lack of obviously playing time, thinking that this is his last year with the Jets unless he pushes someone else on the Jets D, highly doubtful. Heinola is a potential/possible version of Paul Coffey at the lowest end of Coffey, thinking that if he could get the opportunity, he could potentially be a 50 point per year player, again, I say potentially. Thinking that the Jets are making a mistake with Heinola, seems that they are not willing to give him a chance to play, grow and become an offense mainstay on the Jets D. Again, these are just my thoughts. Cheers, 2b9😃👍
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Aug 28, 2023 19:53:27 GMT -6
Disagree Stanley can always get better as a player, but Heinola can't get bigger and size matters when your going to be a 2nd 3rd pairing Dman. Interesting thought on your part. Stanley hasn’t reached his peak yet due to injuries and lack of obviously playing time, thinking that this is his last year with the Jets unless he pushes someone else on the Jets D, highly doubtful. Heinola is a potential/possible version of Paul Coffey at the lowest end of Coffey, thinking that if he could get the opportunity, he could potentially be a 50 point per year player, again, I say potentially. Thinking that the Jets are making a mistake with Heinola, seems that they are not willing to give him a chance to play, grow and become an offense mainstay on the Jets D. Again, these are just my thoughts. Cheers, 2b9😃👍 Stanley needs to magically get quicker and Heinola needs to get magically bigger. Neither seem to be realistic. If Stanley was a bit quicker (and more physical which he is not) than they would make a respectable pairing - kind of like Myers and Enstrom. I think if Heinloa scored 50 points it woudl have to be some PP time and his 5 on 5 would probably be miserable. At this point, he is a tweener - too good for the AHL but not good enough for the NHL. And think of playoff hockety and how much MORE physical it gets. He is much closer to Tim's Coffee than Paul Coffey. Stanley just seems to slow afoot. I know he worked on foot speed and injuries have no doubt not helped but unless he can improve that area he seems like a fringe player to me.
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Post by 2b9 on Aug 29, 2023 5:41:35 GMT -6
Interesting thought on your part. Stanley hasn’t reached his peak yet due to injuries and lack of obviously playing time, thinking that this is his last year with the Jets unless he pushes someone else on the Jets D, highly doubtful. Heinola is a potential/possible version of Paul Coffey at the lowest end of Coffey, thinking that if he could get the opportunity, he could potentially be a 50 point per year player, again, I say potentially. Thinking that the Jets are making a mistake with Heinola, seems that they are not willing to give him a chance to play, grow and become an offense mainstay on the Jets D. Again, these are just my thoughts. Cheers, 2b9😃👍 Stanley needs to magically get quicker and Heinola needs to get magically bigger. Neither seem to be realistic. If Stanley was a bit quicker (and more physical which he is not) than they would make a respectable pairing - kind of like Myers and Enstrom. I think if Heinloa scored 50 points it woudl have to be some PP time and his 5 on 5 would probably be miserable. At this point, he is a tweener - too good for the AHL but not good enough for the NHL. And think of playoff hockety and how much MORE physical it gets. He is much closer to Tim's Coffee than Paul Coffey. Stanley just seems to slow afoot. I know he worked on foot speed and injuries have no doubt not helped but unless he can improve that area he seems like a fringe player to me. I respect your thoughts👍.
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Post by Tim on Aug 29, 2023 5:57:50 GMT -6
Interesting thought on your part. Stanley hasn’t reached his peak yet due to injuries and lack of obviously playing time, thinking that this is his last year with the Jets unless he pushes someone else on the Jets D, highly doubtful. Heinola is a potential/possible version of Paul Coffey at the lowest end of Coffey, thinking that if he could get the opportunity, he could potentially be a 50 point per year player, again, I say potentially. Thinking that the Jets are making a mistake with Heinola, seems that they are not willing to give him a chance to play, grow and become an offense mainstay on the Jets D. Again, these are just my thoughts. Cheers, 2b9😃👍 Stanley needs to magically get quicker and Heinola needs to get magically bigger. Neither seem to be realistic. If Stanley was a bit quicker (and more physical which he is not) than they would make a respectable pairing - kind of like Myers and Enstrom. I think if Heinloa scored 50 points it woudl have to be some PP time and his 5 on 5 would probably be miserable. At this point, he is a tweener - too good for the AHL but not good enough for the NHL. And think of playoff hockety and how much MORE physical it gets. He is much closer to Tim's Coffee than Paul Coffey. Stanley just seems to slow afoot. I know he worked on foot speed and injuries have no doubt not helped but unless he can improve that area he seems like a fringe player to me. That's the thing Stanley has the ability to get faster, not saying it will happen but you can teach speed, 0% chance Heinloa is going to get bigger because you can't teach big.
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Post by PeakyBlinders on Aug 29, 2023 6:58:09 GMT -6
Stanley needs to magically get quicker and Heinola needs to get magically bigger. Neither seem to be realistic. If Stanley was a bit quicker (and more physical which he is not) than they would make a respectable pairing - kind of like Myers and Enstrom. I think if Heinloa scored 50 points it woudl have to be some PP time and his 5 on 5 would probably be miserable. At this point, he is a tweener - too good for the AHL but not good enough for the NHL. And think of playoff hockety and how much MORE physical it gets. He is much closer to Tim's Coffee than Paul Coffey. Stanley just seems to slow afoot. I know he worked on foot speed and injuries have no doubt not helped but unless he can improve that area he seems like a fringe player to me. That's the thing Stanley has the ability to get faster, not saying it will happen but you can teach speed, 0% chance Heinloa is going to get bigger because you can't teach big. You can teach speed 'to a point'. Cant teach Ehlers or Conners type speed but you can work on explosion for the first step or two which I believe all players work on to get to the NFL. Harder for bigger guys actually. Players like Conner and Ehlers would have 'fast twitch' mucsles like sprinters. Right now Stanley to me is juts Adam Pardy II, maybe a bit better. But I am willing to see IF he can develop further.
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Post by Tracker on Aug 29, 2023 10:28:40 GMT -6
That's the thing Stanley has the ability to get faster, not saying it will happen but you can teach speed, 0% chance Heinloa is going to get bigger because you can't teach big. You can teach speed 'to a point'. Cant teach Ehlers or Conners type speed but you can work on explosion for the first step or two which I believe all players work on to get to the NFL. Harder for bigger guys actually. Players like Conner and Ehlers would have 'fast twitch' mucsles like sprinters. Right now Stanley to me is juts Adam Pardy II, maybe a bit better. But I am willing to see IF he can develop further. In the NHL, speed is great to have, but a lack of speed (to a point) can be compensated by positional discipline and a good sense of anticipation, not to mention making it painful for a forward to come into a d-man's area. Good coaching can solve or improve a lot of these issues.
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Post by lenny on Aug 29, 2023 12:31:58 GMT -6
The playoff run against Edmonton showed me significant potential in Stanley. He can hit, skate, pass. So what are some of the issues: confidence, injury issues and consistency. I'm still high on him as an important and always potentially intimidating force on D. Coach has to stick with him assuming health doesn't impede his effectiveness.
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Post by Tim on Aug 29, 2023 13:19:37 GMT -6
The playoff run against Edmonton showed me significant potential in Stanley. He can hit, skate, pass. So what are some of the issues: confidence, injury issues and consistency. I'm still high on him as an important and always potentially intimidating force on D. Coach has to stick with him assuming health doesn't impede his effectiveness. Also I would love to see him get opportunity on the power play, he has a good hard shot and can actually hit the net.
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